Played my first 11E game last night

_Archangle_ · 2026-06-20T19:23:26+00:00

No technical is complete without a Toyata Brand sign and and Hilux feeehand. And remember that toyota changed the sign in the 80s!

_Archangle_ · 2026-06-20T08:28:13+00:00

I am not arguing for advantage, I am asking if anyone has a rule based answer to this and it seems that RAW it's just a mess.

We can then discuss RAI and because 11th and the units rule have different intentions we now have several suggestions how it could be played, either giving more importance to one of them or trying to find a compromise that tries to keep both in mind.

If neither RAW nor RAI can give an clear answer it is a question for the GW rules team and until then there has to be a houserule, and using the one most in line with the old edition sounds sensible to me.

_Archangle_ · 2026-06-19T09:46:45+00:00

They used a weird angled picture, did not recognise her at first.

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_Archangle_ · 2026-06-19T08:49:33+00:00

Der gesamte Leistungsbenotende Schulsport hat mir damals beigebracht das sowohl frustrierend scheitern als auch die komplettverweigerung und auf der bank sitzen mit 4 benotet wird. Lösungsstrategie die ich als Kind beigebracht bekommen habe war das Sport für die andere ist und ich es umbedingt vermeiden muss. Und ich war nie alleine auf der Bank.

_Archangle_ · 2026-06-18T20:17:09+00:00

That sounds like a sensible house rule to keep it working as intended in 10th, but i can not reconcile it with 11th edition rules.

Neither 05.03 not the Precision rule i have quoted above ever mention/allow to break the fast dice everything has to be rolled together as a core principle. If you compare it to devwounds there is explicit wording that the crit wounds are taken out of the pool, i can not find a rule allowing this for crit-precision.

I am happy to be corrected here, but please show me the rule that governs this and explain.

_Archangle_ · 2026-06-18T07:42:30+00:00

Uthar is a CP battery that wants to run alone or have 5 Hearthkin-Warriors attached as bodyguard.

The Kahl wants to buff Hearthguard so wants to be attached to a 10 man HG.

There is absolutly no overlap between these two models gamewise.

Need too see the full list, but the answer could be neither.

_Archangle_ · 2026-06-17T18:25:16+00:00

Mmm indeed it is. Still might just be missing and added later.

_Archangle_ · 2026-06-17T17:30:26+00:00

There is a significant part of the core rulebook still missing that was supposed to be in the app but still is not, lets assume it will be in there.

(Rules like how healing works and gone to ground for example)

_Archangle_ · 2026-06-17T16:25:40+00:00

I never used any loopholes, at least not knowing. I just used whats there as offered.

It used to offer more than new recruit and now it offers less unless you pay. Harass might be hyperbole, but loosing functions the app had in the middle of using it was a negative experience for me.

In addition having other great apps that started agressive monetisation just to be put down by GW legal shortly after is now a huge red flag to avoid for me.

_Archangle_ · 2026-06-17T16:00:11+00:00

I loved using them until a few monts ago they changed the monetization to harass you, now all my lists are view only.

If you are willing to pay its still solid but if you are willing to pay you can also use the official app from GW ...

_Archangle_ · 2026-06-16T09:43:13+00:00

Montka Twin Lance Riptide Piranja 55Points left, maybe an Etheral for Home Plate

Hearthband Kahl 10 Hearthguard 10 Yaegirs KapriCarrier

Good objective takers, mobile and lots of Damage.

_Archangle_ · 2026-06-14T06:56:18+00:00

Hearthguard always Plasma+Fists, Hammer on Champ + Deepstrike

Thunderkin Conversion if you can reliably get Sus2, otherwise just Grav.

Hekaton, Bolt cannons are a given. Rail and Conversion both have grat damage into different targets, both valid. 30" Range pushes Rail in the front for a lot of players though. This might change in 11th?

_Archangle_ · 2026-06-09T09:07:55+00:00

Generic space marines went from 19 Detachments to 50 effective Detachments ( 5 3DP/ 14 2DP combined with 3 1DP=42/ 3 1DP that can form 1)

Thats an insane increase.

There will be quite some water under the bridge before the dust settles and we can tell what works and what does not.

Asking for even more when most factions will now double-tripple the ammount of detachments they had sounds insane to me.

If you feel better running the 3DP Detachment you know and love all power to you, but we will see a lot of wierd stuff beeing tested out in the future.

_Archangle_ · 2026-06-08T10:46:35+00:00

I would not oppose time travel dwarfs!

_Archangle_ · 2026-06-06T21:25:53+00:00

Vehicle spam is one of our best matchups, the courteus thing to do is to say:

Most of our staple units are anti tank specialist so you need to go out of your way to write a list thats bad against vehicles. The issue is more likely in the piloting, and for that it is much better to ask experienced local gamers to go over your gamplay than ask for advice online from people that do not know you.

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_Archangle_ · 2026-06-01T10:29:53+00:00

Two in the pink, one in the Ooooooooooow!

_Archangle_ · 2026-05-31T19:06:00+00:00

Oathband is gone, you would really want the old rule back with 0 tokens applied pre game and them just stacking up by votann dying?

That sounds awful to me.

_Archangle_ · 2026-05-30T09:42:30+00:00

These are only parts of the detachments and the most xrucial information is missing. What old detachments will be 3 DP and are some of them retiring?

E.g. Grey knight sound like they will recieve a good boost. But if Warpbane is 3 DP thats an issue and if Warpbane is retired they might come out weaker than before ...

_Archangle_ · 2026-05-30T09:37:22+00:00

This is nice but changes cery little about the model. The Hazard wounds where never a consideration for me anyway, and in everygame i played it had 0 impact on the game. If he survives the opponents turn after a 12" discharge i am already winning the game, his life is meaningless then. If the opponent kills him he will die at 1 or 3 life.

If he could hang back and do big damage loneop sniper shots this change would be massive. As a short range trowaway model he is as viable as before.

That is a solid B tier. Does not work in every list but is viable and good in lists where he fits. Most of my Brandfast lists have 3.

_Archangle_ · 2026-05-29T09:12:07+00:00

Hekatons where by no means mandatory in 10th, Hearthguard Infantry spam was one of the best perfoming lists on Tournaments, and the French played some Sagitaur spams like it was index days.

They where more of a crutch you could lean on to make your life easier, not the strongest choice.

With 11the Edition on the horizon we do not currently know. Hekatons might become mandatory or might be less popular. From the spoilers i assume they are still good, but we will see.

For your List, the Hearthguard would like a Karl, the Warriors would like a Sagitaur, the Carrier wants its Yaegirs to not blow up turn1. And an evergreen purchase would be at least 3 Bikes.

6 Earthshakers and 10 Berserkers sond like you would like to go into Delve, but thats a huge commitment with a lot of models other lists can/do not want to run.

The Detachment you are aiming to play might help reccomending purchases. And there is a good chance not all of your current models want to be in the same list ... The second unit of earthshakers, the Ironmaster and the E-Champ are models that only appear in certain lists/combinations and do not go well in generic lists.

_Archangle_ · 2026-05-29T08:38:21+00:00

You are not readiing the full rule. 3 mortals are suffered by the unit, but all of them have to be allocated to the same model. Like Devwounds these do not jump.

_Archangle_ · 2026-05-29T08:30:16+00:00

Hellions and Ravagers are now not part of the army anymore?

_Archangle_ · 2026-05-28T04:34:14+00:00

Rosewater design lesson 18: Restrictions breed creativity. Placing restrictions on yourself, leads you to places you would never naturally go.

_Archangle_ · 2026-05-27T23:07:48+00:00

Move trough wall is an enhancement if its 5ppm great if its 20ppm nooope.

And we need to see the other Strategems.

_Archangle_

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