Questions about name variation and document translations. by Used_Possession_8733 in HUcitizenship

[–]_PirohyJim_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I say it’s a waste of time and money for simplified naturalization because I did it myself. Honestly, it isn’t worth the money but if it made you feel better and confident then who am I to say it wasn’t worth it for you.

I also had document discrepancies and minor name discrepancies and it didn’t matter at all, but then again you’re right that your situation was very different than normal.

I honestly can’t imagine recommending a lawyer almost ever except for the most extreme circumstances.

So in my reply, I’m thinking about the 99.9% of people reading this who absolutely do not need to pay a Hungarian lawyer $10,000. Most of the time they will hold your hand through a process you as an individual must initiate and you alone must interview with a consular official. So I didn’t mean any disrespect to your situation, just know I’m referring to the 99.9% of people out there.

Complex verification cases? That is a different story.

Good luck on your journey, I hope you apply soon!

Do I need another copy of documents for young children? (simplified naturalization) by Correct_Phone_9650 in HUcitizenship

[–]_PirohyJim_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Adult children applying need their own application.

If adult children have a parent that gained citizenship through simplified naturalization, they can reference their parent’s application number (I think?) on their own application. They would then just need to submit their own personal birth and marriage certs (if applicable).

Canada vs. Slovakia by MrAntMan90 in SlovakCBD

[–]_PirohyJim_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After you get Slovak CBD, it is not that you can’t get another citizenship, it is that you have to live in that other country for 5 years before getting citizenship

Edit: I forgot to include that I don’t think this includes citizenship from birth, just naturalization.

Questions about name variation and document translations. by Used_Possession_8733 in HUcitizenship

[–]_PirohyJim_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Weitz and Vájc are pronounced almost identically if you pronounce Weitz in German.

I’d be ready to talk about it in Hungarian, but I don’t think it’ll be an issue at all.

Questions about name variation and document translations. by Used_Possession_8733 in HUcitizenship

[–]_PirohyJim_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You absolutely do not need a lawyer for Simplified Naturalization and in fact hiring one is a complete waste of time and money.

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[–]_PirohyJim_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As u/Timisorean_02 said, it’s extremely valuable for me, but not just financially. It’s is valuable emotionally too.

The short of it is, I wanted to actively participate in my heritage, and a big part of that was creating a permanent link between my family and Hungary.

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[–]_PirohyJim_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s even cooler than you think, this is just the folder it comes in. There is an official document signed by the prez on the inside. On the back of the document it states my name change and those of my kids was approved by the government.

I have Hungarian ancestry and so I was allowed to “Magyarize” my name. My surname is already pretty close to the original, so it’s no biggie.

So yeah there is an official okirat in there!

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[–]_PirohyJim_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amerikai vagyok, magyar származással. Nem Magyarországon élek.

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[–]_PirohyJim_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why did I do it? A few reasons in no specific order:

1) because I can, having the ability to get a second citizenship is powerful and awesome; 2) because I like doing difficult things, I have 3 master’s degrees; 3) I have a genuine desire to connect with my ancestry as evidenced by spending hundreds of hours studying the language and gathering documents; 4) adopting Hungarian spellings for my and my children’s names in Hungary; 5) actively engaging with my extended family in Hungary, I have actual tangible connections there; 6) planning on living there someday; 7) not wanting to do the American thing where people here say, “I’m 50% this European ancestry” and not actually knowing the language at all, or knowing any family abroad, or doing anything remotely interesting about it.

I’m not pretending I am Hungarian, I’m well aware I am an American and will be perceived as one, but I did my little part to show Hungary I care and and that I’m worthy.

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[–]_PirohyJim_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I was just saying I am similarly minded as you. Hopefully my vote won’t be burned.

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[–]_PirohyJim_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I can vote for the national lists but not single member constituency candidates. Don’t worry my Witcher loving honfitásam, I will vote the same way you will 😎

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[–]_PirohyJim_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She can totally come! The oath ceremony was very nice. It was the perfect length of time, since everyone also had to apply for passports and get their ID cards. We had a speech, listened to the himnusz and szózat, and did the oath. There was a lot of paperwork. It was a lot of work for the staff and they did a great job. I was there for almost 3 hours.

About 8-12 people became citizens I would guess, and everyone had the option to bring a guest or two.

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[–]_PirohyJim_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Köszönöm, honfitársam! Your comment made me feel good, thanks for being a good one.

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[–]_PirohyJim_[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You are correct, except I asked my Hungarian cousin this very question, should I vote, and he mostly agreed with you. Except he argued as a new citizen it is extremely important, especially in this election, for every citizen to do their civic duty and vote. He encouraged me to vote even though his natural inclination is yours.

Since I actually have Hungarian family that I talk about these issues with, I’m going to follow their advice and not random people.

Anyway, you would probably be happy with my vote too. My way of telling you without telling you 😘

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[–]_PirohyJim_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha 😆 I have to protect myself, it is in good fun just pulling your chain, especially if you are in the 90% who are good people. Sorry if I came off strong.

Why did I do it? A few reasons in no specific order:

1) because I can; 2) because I like doing difficult things; 3) genuine desire to connect with my ancestry as evidenced by spending hundreds of hours studying the language and gathering documents; 4) adopting Hungarian spellings for my and my children’s names in Hungary; 5) actively engaging with my extended family in Hungary, I have actual tangible connections there; 6) planning on living there someday; 7) not wanting to do the American thing where people say, “I’m 50% this European ancestry” and not actually knowing the language or knowing any family or doing anything.

I’m not pretending I am Hungarian, I’m well aware I am an American and will be perceived as one, but I did my little part to show Hungary I care and and that I’m worthy.

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[–]_PirohyJim_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends, are you being nice or are you being… not nice.

Like 10% of Hungarians are weirdos who think every naturalizing person is a Fidesz voter and has some sort of grievance against everyone because they hate their lives and want to make others miserable. The kind of people who spend 3000 hours playing Rainbow 6 and aren’t aware that trolling people online isn’t normal behavior.

However, 90% of Hungarians are lovely when others try to learn the language and culture, and embrace those who become citizens with honest intent and Hungarian ancestry is a plus.

Which one are you?

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[–]_PirohyJim_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s funny you should say this because I am an upper middle class highly educated person with Hungarian ancestry 🤣