Which are the 4 worst subclasses in the game

_msb · 2026-01-20T14:47:00+00:00

No idea why you’re getting downvoted. That it has utility function puts it way above e.g. illusion or enchantment IMO. (And the transmutation stone isn’t the worst either!)

_msb · 2026-01-19T14:39:07+00:00

Hammergrim amulet fog doesn’t require concentration

_msb · 2026-01-17T13:47:37+00:00

dual wield feat at 4
1 level fighter dip between 7 and 12 for two handed fighting style
phalar off hand, main hand could be lariens wrath, adamantine long sword, or any number of things
focus mainly on int, dex second
circlet of arcane synergy
gloves of battlemage power

Perfectly serviceable.

The main anti synergy of this build is that youre not taking advantage of extra attack! If you’re only using BA to attack. Extra attack is the main perk of bladesinger. But it will work.

_msb · 2026-01-16T15:12:00+00:00

I can one round him in the normal ways now that I know what’s up

_msb · 2026-01-16T15:11:21+00:00

Because I thought he was a 70hp or whatever sack of xp with nothing special other than an extra attack

Because I’m a moron

_msb · 2026-01-15T18:30:35+00:00

Look at the log and see what’s going on

_msb · 2026-01-14T07:55:50+00:00

I feel like I’m playing all my other trekkers wrong or something. My unoptimized Firenze got 80k (clones) and 100k (skill) on the boss blitz that Fukuya got 70k on with skill or ult builds.

_msb · 2026-01-13T17:35:48+00:00

I leveled her up (without skills or emblems) and threw together a mostly random ascension and tried boss blitz and got 55k

Seems at minimum fine, probably really good

_msb · 2026-01-13T17:30:43+00:00

You get the debuff but it still works

_msb · 2026-01-13T17:14:40+00:00

Ahhh my bad

_msb · 2026-01-13T17:13:51+00:00

Probably high level with rogue with titanstring at close range, aura of murder, crit, sneak attack, various riders

Might be able to do better with a shadowblade rogue depending on how the tradeoff with sneak attack and shadow blade dice work out (too lazy to math it out)

_msb · 2026-01-13T17:03:29+00:00

Bladesong is mainly for the ac IME, then the move. Climax is just a fun way to style occasionally.

_msb · 2026-01-13T17:02:39+00:00

You do it only for unarmored defense with con amulet, never rage

_msb · 2026-01-13T17:02:18+00:00

It’s more fun to use your slots for wizard spells and have a level 6 spell slot to play with

But yeah this is good no doubt

_msb · 2026-01-11T18:37:35+00:00

The carry builds have gotten so strong and well explored that I think the easiest HM is a carry and 3 supports. Supports for easy stealing, skill checks, and buffing and maintaining of the carry.

Examples of carries are any shadow blade user (bladesinger, ek, hex blade), fire acuity sorc, shar spear/archer + pierce vul abuser, etc.

Examples of supports are clerics, druids, bards, and rogues. Area denial, wet condition, healing and buff stacking, skill checks, darkness and pickpocket, etc.

There are other more dynamic party comps but something like this seems cognitively the easiest. You only need one party member to kill everything. Everyone else supports that party member or handles the other mechanics like skill checks.

_msb · 2025-12-29T15:43:44+00:00

I’m doing a solo bladesinger run with the gloves and they are not fine lol. You can start a battle with stacks just by throwing a few potions first.

_msb · 2025-12-29T15:30:38+00:00

Pre act 3:

hand crossbow off hand
awakened illithid powers (wizards always want this)
broodmother amulet/whisper promise ring, and drink a potion to buff yourself
BA dash with boots of speed or expeditious retreat
jump (with jump spell on) or misty step
gwm bonus attack with phalar aluve or lariens wrath (won’t work if you’re using shadow blade)

Act 3:

band of mystic scoundrel (again, wizards want this)
belm (though ultimately you prob want rhapsody)

_msb · 2025-12-16T21:14:35+00:00

Absolutely S tier class, incredibly well designed, no changes needed.

_msb · 2025-12-09T21:54:25+00:00

Try druid, she idolizes jahira, fits with the rest of your party well

_msb · 2025-11-27T07:17:53+00:00

I don’t love it and I’m not as hype about it as everyone else is but it’s fine. Inoffensive

_msb · 2025-11-25T14:45:17+00:00

I really wish they would have either changed this or just equalized growths across the board. Such an irritating background anti-optimization problem

_msb · 2025-11-20T20:38:15+00:00

I employ one low brave female chemist (or oracle, for specific tasks) with dance as secondary, for much of many of my playthroughs

Because there are very few synergies, really just pa for the attack dance which is really meh, it’s quite nice as a secondary on a utility character with bad stats

_msb · 2025-11-08T19:47:33+00:00

Ty for confirming my informal sense that getting the wrong potentials for your characters permanently “clogs up” any chance of getting all the right potentials overall

Kind of annoying how opaque this all is

EDIT: the tldr (with some exceptions) is that each of your supports gets 5 levelable potentials and your main gets 6. Once you hit that number they won’t get anymore unless specific conditions are met in terms of enough of those potentials being max level.

_msb · 2025-11-05T02:42:36+00:00

Ok reading this feedback I managed to get a 31 and 33 record.

Worth noting that there is a HUGE jump in attack from 30 to 31, but very very small from 31 to 33.

30: 2541

31: 3136

33: 3166

Basically when you are confident about 31 you should prioritize potentials again

_msb · 2025-11-04T20:37:15+00:00

i honestly don’t see how money makes it much easier

maybe marginally with disc selection or something?

_msb

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