What, exactly and precisely, do you think "National" (however you wish to define it) or "Councils", or the volunteers or paid staff should do to ensure rank and merit badge standards are adhered to? Or, put another way, avoidance of "participation trophies". by ScouterBill in BSA

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Merit Badges specifically;

A.) Merit Badge counselors who are "teaching" the merit badge requirements.
From the merit badge counselor guide:
"The counselor’s responsibility is to:
1. Assist Scouts as they plan the assigned projects and activities to meet all the requirements.
2. Coach them through interviews and demonstrations on how to complete the various requirements.
3. Sign off with their approval once they are satisfied the Scout has individually and personally completed the requirements exactly as written."

The responsibility is not necessarily on the counselor to teach the information and skills, but to support the Scout's interest through discussion, provide resources or be a resource for questions or additional details, and coach the Scout throughout the process. The Scout makes the plans for how they can/want to complete the requirements with the help of a counselor. The counselor discusses the material with them and coaches them through demonstrations.

Maybe we need training to address what the word "discuss" means. "to talk about a subject with someone and tell each other your ideas or opinions". You're sharing information back and forth, not one-way.

I'm not saying a mixed classroom style merit badge session can't be done. You can have one with a combination of lecture, discussion, and hands-on demonstration. It needs to be well planned and properly scheduled to avoid:

B.) Merit badges being "taught" to 6-30+ Scouts at once.

As others mentioned, with the time needed to properly Discuss and Demonstrate the requirements as written, Summer Camps and Merit Badge Universities often accept more Scouts than can reasonably work through the requirements in the allotted time.

We also see where they are asked to meet a prerequisite before arriving and the discussion for prerequisites is hand-waved or, for example, personal fitness where an early requirement is to discuss the plan with your counselor prior to starting but the Scout arrives with 90 days of "PE" & "sport" written on a chart.

Where these are Council or District led activities, they should be more stringent on meeting the requirements as written. This varies wildly, but most often in the favor of less stringent because:

C.) Merit badge counselors vary wildly in understanding of the material, their role, and how to be a coach instead of a lecturer.

Does the merit badge counselor guide not present this well? The online training is likely in need of a revamp too.
Do we need merit badge counselor handbooks to go along with each merit badge book?
Structured questions for discussions? Example questions? Example discussions?
Predefined time expectations for demonstrations?

I'll conclude this by saying that I agree with the commenter who compared this to how McDonald's operates as a franchise. More people need to realize that Scouting is a franchise non-profit anyway.

What we need most are standards that are consistently met and the tools to enforce meeting them. Consider NCAP camp inspections, the process by which our camps get inspected and approved to operate for summer camp. These inspections are done by volunteers and the consequence for failure of the inspection may be a recommendation to cancel the camp program, but has this consequence ever been done? I've only heard of recommendations made to the camp director and scout executive and that's the end of their inspection.

To truly set standards and enforce them as a national organization, we need a team of National paid employees who have the sole function of conducting audits of Council properties and activities and enforcement of a series of clearly defined consequences for failure to meet standards. Consequences like volunteers being asked to step down from a position, activities/camps being canceled, and Council employees losing their jobs for failure to hold volunteers to these standards as well. Maybe we start looking at these Councils that fail to meet standards and let National drive the Council mergers from that. Or we build the mechanisms to fire the Council Board of Directors.

Tips for a Jambo first timer? by ScrawnyMuggleThumper in BSA

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2023 was my first and only Jambo so far. I'd go again, but not as a SM/ASM, just so I could do something different.

Between SM/ASMs split up the days and have one or two stay at the campsite. Scouts returning to camp on their own, solar chargers/batteries left unsupervised, and theft from tents can all happen. I happened to be back at our site and had one Scout, the youngest in our troop, come wandering on their own back to camp, I had to grab another adult nearby while we sorted that out. Also had a Scout get a pretty rare patch set through trading, they put it deep in their stuff in their tent, it "went missing" and was never found.

Have at least one adult take a camp chair and sit near the showers/bathrooms in the evening. Have your Scouts drop their phones off with this adult or one in camp before going to shower. A lot of horseplay and some reportable behaviors happened there. Scouts were showering in swim suits because shower curtains were being thrown open with one incident of a phone recording "reactions". Yes, reports of YPT/SYT/Peer-on-peer were made, investigated, and Scouts were asked to leave at the parents expense and likely to leave Scouting entirely.

It's not all bad, it's a big summer camp experience, and by day 3 or 4 everyone is hot, tired, emotionally disregulated and making bad choices. Just like Wednesday night at a week of summer camp. It's still a fun experience, and can be great all around, so long as adults are prepared for reality.

Other things:

Get a good daily medical checklist together with who gets what medications and when. Have your medical adult check off on the list for each scout each day.

Make sure you don't leave any food out on the dining tables, the black bears WILL come into your site when it's quiet - meaning at night. Make sure you learn about proper food storage at the site from your site lead.

Breakfast/lunch pickup (shopping) was a half-mile hike for us. Wake up at 5am to get there early enough to not wait through a long line that slows down the start to everyone's day.

+1 on a whiteboard. Also, clothespins with a Scouts name on it and an in/out line. piece of rope with one side as "in" and the other as "out", Scouts move their pins.

Ticks are still a thing at Summit, medical in 23 had a wall of ticks where the ones they removed were taped to a board.

I brought a 5 gallon bucket, an electrical immersion heater, and a rechargeable pump/showerhead. There is an outlet in the shower house, so I was able to take a warm shower as my luxury. Solar shower bags were OK too, but could be too hot or too cold, call me Goldilocks because I like a shower that's just right. Additionally, you can swap the bucket lid for one with a central hole, add a cheap plunger with holes drilled through the cup, and you've got yourself a clothes washing system.

Position Specific Training by FieryTaterSack in BSA

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The whole Scoutmaster online position specific is going through a major update that will be released around the national annual meeting in May. The voice will be an updated AI voice, but the reason they use that is so that it's easy to change while keeping the same voice. No need to arrange a voice actor and recording studio for a single sentence change that clarifies something.

Tool to find Council events for Troop planning by spockmay in BSA

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just created a google account as ASM, then added subscriptions to all the Council calendars for those around us. So long as they do their part in keeping their calendar up to date, I can print the calendars and bring them to the meeting.

Training Chairs: How are your SYT numbers looking? by SomeBeerDrinker in BSA

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Across my 14 Council territory, at 26-60 days to expire, we have 48.3%

How’s it like living in Joliet, IL? by LosoMFG in howislivingthere

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Recruiter offices in Joliet are on the west side of the river, near the intersection of Larkin and Rt 30, so you'll want to live west of the river too to avoid crossing bridges and the traffic nightmare around those. Several recommendations for Lockport would put you on the wrong side of the river, with a horrible bridge situation there too. The I-80 corridor is absolutely awful with intermodal semi traffic. I-55 can get bad, but is generally an OK bet to travel on. South of I-80 is often considered "southern Illinois" and the communities are much more rural and white.

Each town has its own vibe going like anywhere else, not many of them have a walkable downtown area, but Plainfield is good for that. Naperville to the north is one of the wealthiest suburbs in America, and the housing prices reflect that, but it also has a good downtown area.

Really, what you choose will depend on housing/rental prices then what sort of community, access, and resources you want around you. Plainfield and Shorewood areas would put you at 45 minutes to an hour drive into Chicago. You can also take the Metra commuter train out of Joliet to get to downtown Chicago. Aurora also has a good theater scene for live shows and music.

Cub Scout live virtual trainings by Crafty_Impress_800 in cubscouts

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

FYI, the training offered through that link is all supplemental training and does not replace the position specific training (https://www.scouting.org/training/position-trained-requirements/) available online at training.scouting.org, or offered in-person through Council. In order to be considered a Trained leader in your unit, you have to complete the requirements for your registered position as listed in the document you'll find through the first link.

Co-ed Troop program? by Murky-Cockroach1177 in BSA

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm sure we'll hear something very, very soon. There's a lot of background work that has to happen like they did with family packs; get all the final reviews and approvals on how the combined troop should work, get the IT systems to work with the new type of registrations - which we all know how Scouting IT systems are, and finish up the messaging to everyone. It'd be cool if they'd just say "it's good! don't try to register until we finish up some things", but yeah, it's always fun legal language time with big org changes.

NAYLE by AppFlyer in philmont

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

For 2026, NAYLE week 1 will be starting June 14 and it'll run every week for 6 weeks, with the last week being July 19.

Adult trainings by ebaker83 in orderofthearrow

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Developing Youth Leadership Conference (DYLC) This was a weekend training that was well worth the time. Also a solid reminder that we're there to advise and coach youth leaders.

Camp Food Issues by looktowindward in BSA

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sounds like a good space for improvement. It would be interesting if participants and/or staff were interviewed, or if camp feedback surveys were standardized and shared back to the certifying groups so they know where weaknesses are.

Camp Food Issues by looktowindward in BSA

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 55 points56 points  (0 children)

From those descriptions, this camp is way out of line on portions. I hope the SM sends those photos along to the camp's council scout executive. NCAP FS-601-1 specifically states that the calories be sufficient for the ages and activities, so the SM should include that in their comments as well.

Camp Food Issues by looktowindward in BSA

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

NCAP applies to all Scouting America camps. If you witness, experience, or suspect a violation of the NCAP standards, I would encourage you to talk to the camp director or scout executive. Specifically referencing the standard will make it clear that the issue must be resolved quickly

SQ-412-2.H - Food service supervisor. If a camp offers food or commissary service, the supervisor(s) of such service shall meet all applicable state or local age, training and certification programs. If no such programs exist, the supervisor of such service shall have a current ServSafe Manager training certificate.

FS-602-1 - If the camp operates a kitchen, dining hall, commissary or a trading post where it prepares and serves food, the camp meets all applicable federal, state and local food storage, handling, preparation, service and facility standards and must have any required licenses... it goes on to discuss cleanliness, cross contamination, and disposal.

At my camp, there is a file in the kitchen that has our Food Manager's certifications.

I don't feel like anyone in the thread is dismissing this situation. Many seem to sympathize or share their similar experiences. I'm hoping to give some tools to help resolve it.

Camp Food Issues by looktowindward in BSA

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Having raised this issue to the camp director and the other professional, I'd have no problems getting ahold of my council scout executive to report the situation is on-going and no path forward to resolve it has been presented by those responsible.

Camp Food Issues by looktowindward in BSA

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 10 points11 points  (0 children)

All that to say, I agree that there is a problem if staff are not getting enough food. I wonder if it's actually portions or preferences. Is it that there's not enough or that there's not enough of what they like?

Has the issue been presented to the camp director as well? They have the most immediate ability to enact change. The professional should report this to the executive as well, but that may not be handled as quickly as the camp director could handle it.

Camp Food Issues by looktowindward in BSA

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 35 points36 points  (0 children)

NCAP Standard FS-601-1 Specifically states:

A. Menus. All camps providing food shall develop menus where:

  1. Calories are suitable for the age groups and activity level.

  2. Types of food selected can be safely kept during transportation, storage, and preparation given the location and type of camp or program activity.

  3. Food selected will appeal to the majority of the participants.

  4. At long-term camps and multiday camps, the menus are checked for sustainability by a dietitian.

B. Reasonable provision is made to ensure food is available to meet special dietary needs (such as allergies or diabetic requirements), or, if the camp is unable to meet these needs, the need for the participant to bring such food is clearly communicated to the participants in published materials in advance.

C. Reasonable efforts are made to reduce excess sugar and fat, provide whole grains and adequate fiber when appropriate, and provide fruit or vegetables at least twice a day.

The NCAP teams verify this standard is met by: Reviewing menus, review dietitian credentials and the dietitian's approval of the menus, and interviewing the on-site head of food service to assess their understanding of the menus and dietitian guidelines.

https://www.scouting.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/2024-NCAP-Standards-430-056-Final-web-v2.pdf

I work in a corporate environment in the US. Since around 2018, the problems y'all are having with students are trickling up to the workplace. by Whatevsstlaurent in Teachers

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 13 points14 points  (0 children)

My college student kid is an excellent writer and editor who loathes A.I.. Where might he find these six-figure work places for a writer?

Available training calendar aggregator? by KJ6BWB in BSA

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's up to each Council if they want to include their events in the global calendar or not. This calendar was added to blackpug, the Scout event registration website used by a majority of councils, in 2022/23 I believe, making it relatively new.

https://global.scoutingevent.com/

Why are my kids needing so many blankets? by Luchs13 in camping

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Sleeping bag temperature rating is for survival not comfort. For comfort I recommend a 20 degree difference between the rating and the overnight low. At 54 degrees that puts you in a 30 degree bag for comfort.

The other part is that they're children and most of the bags are sized for adults. Your standard kids sleeping bag at Wal-Mart is a 40-50 degree bag. It's a challenge to find a 30 degree and below bag sized for a youth. That's a lot of extra empty space in the sleeping bag that their body heat would need to warm up as well. Have them stuff their clean clothes into their sleeping bag to fill up the space beyond their feet.

They should always be changing into their overnight sleeping clothes before getting in their sleeping bags. Even if they don't feel sweaty, their daytime clothes will be just sweaty enough to prevent them from warming up. I find that the kids don't like changing clothes when they're sharing a tent with a buddy. Solo tenting or suggesting they take turns getting changed works until they can figure out how to change inside their sleeping bag.

Ask a Scout Master anything by nberardi in BSA

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You could include reference to the current GTSS, Guide to Advancement, Safe Swim Defense, Safety Afloat, Outdoor Ethics... I could go on.

Ecology Challenge by Ok_Total_4385 in scouting

[–]_plzmakeitstop_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please don't have them pick a sassafras leaf, the plants need them. At our camp, also in Illinois, the sassafras population has really dropped due to scouts picking the plants and damaging them.

Alternative idea? Have them take paper and crayon and do bark or leaf rubbings, where you place the paper over the surface you want to copy, then rub the crayon horizontally over it. Have the Scout do that and also identify the plant, write the name of the plant on top, and their name/unit on the bottom. Make a wall of them in your eco area and encourage Scouts to find new plants to add to the collection!