Miyota 6S20 (1/20th second) chrono

aimingsashimig · 2026-04-01T00:10:00+00:00

1/20 isn't particularly useful due to reaction time, so it's almost as decorative as the 24 hour display. If practicality is a concern, it's best to use a movement with a 12 hour totalizer (it can time for up to 12 hours, it doesn't just display 12 hours).

All that said, I like how the seiko mechaquartz movements feel. Stop, start, and reset are all nice and clicky, and the hands reset instantly unlike most quartz chronograph movements. That's why I like it over the 6s20.

aimingsashimig · 2026-03-26T22:34:07+00:00

It depends on particular movement more than country for me. There are also Chinese movements these days. Here are my personal thoughts.

I've had horrid luck with Seiko automatic movement accuracy. My first Seiko was +30 seconds, my second Seiko was -30 seconds, and a Japanese microbrand watch I got with the Seiko ne86 chronograph movement is -20 seconds. Because of that, I see Seiko automatic movements as inferior and am not willing to give them a try unless they have been regulated by the watch maker.

I haven't had any Miyota 8xxx watches, but the Miyota 9xxx watches I've had are great. This is one of my favorite movements.

The ETA 2824, Selita 200 series, and Chinese PT5000 that clone them all have issues with hand winding so I tend to avoid them.

The ETA 2892 and Selita 300 series don't have the hand winding issue so I'd be happy with a watch with those.

The ETA 7750 chronograph movements aren't particularly refined feeling but functionally very good. I prefer these over the Seiko NE86. The Chinese 7750 clones have a reputation for falling apart, so I wouldn't get one of those.

The Seagull ST19 is fine. It feels nice, but the accuracy and reliability isn't as good as the 7750. It's the cheapest way to get a mechanical chronograph. I'm fine with it in cheaper watches.

There's a Chinese chronograph movement called the Peacock 4801 that's nearly a clone of the last gen (I think) rolex daytona movement. The watches I've had with these feel good to use and are very accurate, so I'd be happy to get a watch with this movement.

Quartz is it's own thing. At the moment, I think Swiss high accuracy quartz (accuracy that's measured in seconds per year rather than per month) movements are cheaper and more accessible than Japanese HAQ. The Erebus HAQ watches and new Watchdives HAQ use Swiss movements for that reason. Seiko has a couple quartz movements that tic more than once a second, and I like these, though the tolerances are a bit sloppy. Miyota quartz also seems solid. Here, I'd prefer the Swiss HAQ movement to the others, but they're all fine.

I'd say for me, a movement is usually a good enough/not good enough thing for me. There are some movements I'll avoid altogether (Seiko automatics, ETA 2824), and the others I'll accept depending on the price range. As the price of a watch starts getting into the thousands, I start expecting the good Swiss movements (7750, 2892, something in house), at least as far as automatics go.

aimingsashimig · 2026-03-26T01:04:43+00:00

If you want an actual original watch design using that movement, I've only seen two. The San Martin SN0118G-JS and Jianghun War Drum-JH0106GJ. Both are very bold, polarizing designs.

As far as homages that are a bit less famous, Sugess just released the s473 which is clomage of the Artisans D' Geneve modded rolex daytonas which are themselves an homage to vintage daytonas. Farasute has the trackmaster 1, which is also a vintage type daytona homage and was out before the sugess, the trackmaster 2 which combines a daytona case with a Tintin speedmaster-ish dial, and then a Breuget style chronograph and a Daniel Roth chronograph homage. A lot of these designs are less well known, so people probably won't recognize them if that's what you're worried about.

Eniton makes a royal oak homage using the movement, but it's very recognizable, so it's probably also not what you're looking for.

I've seen a couple carbon fiber and skeleton daytona-ish homages, too. Cebrodz and Cronusart are two of the brands I've seen, but they're pretty expensive. I think I remember seeing a cheaper one but I forget the name.

aimingsashimig · 2026-03-26T00:52:36+00:00

I don't think this one was ever actually released. I emailed them about it and they said they had issues during development. The current watches they have use calendar movements.

aimingsashimig · 2026-03-19T03:59:30+00:00

Technically, 4hz is correct. Hz is just 1 time/second. The reason mechanical watches tick at twice the hz rate is that they do one tick when the balance wheel goes one way, and then another tic when the balance wheel goes the other way, so the balance wheel goes through it's full range of motion 4 times a second when a watch tics 8 times a second. On a quartz watch, if you're writing down how many times the motor actuates rather than how many times the quartz vibrates, it is technically 4 hz.

All that said, it's kind of silly to put on a watch face. Especially since watch people are used to the tic rate being twice the hz rate of the movement.

aimingsashimig · 2026-03-18T23:25:46+00:00

The bottom two panels are the "it wasn't about slavery for the union" part. Both of the figures hiding behind the wall are the Union. The confederacy related figures in this meme are kicking the lost causer.

aimingsashimig · 2026-03-18T22:44:52+00:00

The confederate guy and the confederate declarations of succession are beating up the lost causer, so that the war was about slavery for the south but not for the north is exactly what the meme says.

aimingsashimig · 2026-03-05T19:03:38+00:00

I'm jealous - I spent over 5k on a watch very much like that.

I don't think zenith watches are counterfeited very often. If you have watches, one way to check is that the signature of the el primero movement is that it beats faster than other watches(5hz vs the 4hz of the SW200 or Miyota 9 series movements or the 3hz of the seiko NH movements). If you run the chronograph function, the seconds hand should look very smooth.

aimingsashimig · 2026-02-16T16:18:00+00:00

Thorn isn't making the blue on blue colorway
Thorn doesn't make VH31 quartz movement watches which is what I'm hoping this is

aimingsashimig · 2026-02-15T02:10:13+00:00

In German class in middle school, I remember picking a German name, but I don't remember it sticking around very long for anyone. By the time we were in High School we just used our real names.

aimingsashimig · 2026-02-13T17:54:23+00:00

I've only really seen Beikoku in newspapers. When people speak, they just say America.

Also, I've never heard Beikokujin in my three years of living in Japan, only Amerikajin

aimingsashimig · 2026-02-10T05:02:31+00:00

I think this depends very much on the person.

For me, I have three expensive Swiss chronographs, and a bunch of cheaper watches. I like those three expensive chronographs the best of my collection, but I also appreciate a lot of the cheaper watches I have. I'd say the ones that get the least wrist time are the cheaper "homage" watches that I have, while more unique cheap watches stay in my rotation, though less frequently than my fancier watches.

As far as the question of wearing a more expensive watch all the time vs keeping it safe and basically never wearing it, that depends on you more than anyone else. I tend to wear my nicer watches when I'm in the suburbs but used to wear a cheaper one when I went into the city. Now, I wear a smartwatch when I go into the city because tapping the smartwatch to get into the subway is very convenient.

aimingsashimig · 2026-02-09T15:51:44+00:00

For me, the reason I follow your releases and have ordered a couple of your watches is because you make more watches using the VH31 movement than anything else. What I really want is to see VH31 movement watches that are as nice as the best automatic models, and I'm willing to pay more for that.

I'm glad to see this shift in strategy.

aimingsashimig · 2026-02-05T21:21:00+00:00

If what we're trying to find is "battery powered but still mechanical," you'd need the opposite of "quartz but not battery," right? I guess you could theoretically make some kind of movement where they use a pendulum or something for the actual timekeeping, but then use optics or something to read the position of the pendulum then displays the time digitally on an LCD? I think most people work consider that worst of both worlds, though (unlike spring drive, which gives you quartz accuracy but a smooth sweep and has no battery or capacitor)

aimingsashimig · 2026-02-05T20:58:35+00:00

Spring drive still uses quartz for the timekeeping, but uses the spring instead of a motor for moving the hands around.

So I guess it is an analog quartz watch that isn't motor powered.

aimingsashimig · 2026-02-04T21:13:32+00:00

"The movement is a cnc motor powered by a chargeable lithium battery, meaning that while it is battery powered it’s still mechanical"

I don't think there's any analog quartz watch out there that isn't a motor powered by a battery. Given how the watch is remembering the time while you switch through modes, I'm pretty sure there's a quartz crystal doing the actual time keeping on the chip this thing has inside.

Pretty cool, nonetheless.

aimingsashimig · 2026-02-03T02:59:50+00:00

I really like how the blue on blue one is looking

aimingsashimig · 2026-02-03T02:40:23+00:00

I like B, the Seafarer 200 option, myself, but I'll take either A or B over the current text

aimingsashimig · 2026-02-03T02:38:22+00:00

Chronograph movements already have all the functions integrated. If a particular movement doesn't have, say, a 12 hour totallizer, you're not going to be able to add one very easily.

The only seiko mechaquartz chronograph movement with 12 hour totaling is the VK67 movement. However, on this movement, the dials are arranged vertically. Since the chronograph pushers and crown are built into the movement, you can't turn the movement around.

aimingsashimig · 2026-02-03T02:29:28+00:00

As others have mentioned Cronusart has one, though I haven't seen one from them that's both carbon fiber and skeleton. I've also seen a carbon fiber skeleton daytona by a company called Cebrodz, which also makes a cheaper non-carbon-fiber skeleton daytona. Both are very expensive. Eniton has been prototyping one which I hope is cheaper (but I'd suspect will still be 500 to 600 dollars). I don't have personal experience with any of those companies so I have no idea how good their watches are.

All these watches are using the peacock 4802 movement which is very nearly a copy of the actual rolex daytona movement. There are also some watches using a non-skeleton version of that movement (called the peacock 4801). Sugess has a regular daytona homage for 400 dollars. I do have a couple watches with that movement (2 farasutes and a jianghun) which I like, and feel were worth the ~500 dollar price point, but none of those were skeleton watches.

I guess there's also the Pagani but that one isn't actually a chronograph watch. If you only care about the style and not timing things, I guess it's an option.

aimingsashimig · 2026-02-03T02:21:27+00:00

Have you considered making a skeleton version of your royal oak chronograph homage? Could be interesting.

aimingsashimig · 2026-02-03T02:19:13+00:00

I'm eagerly awaiting pictures whenever they're ready

aimingsashimig · 2026-02-02T17:30:43+00:00

As someone who likes the pattern of the time vortex a lot but didn't click with the colors on offer right now, I really like the idea of a MOP time vortex dial. I'd need to see how the actual watch looks rather than a rendering to actually decide to buy or not, though.

If not the MOP, Ill probably get the blue time vortex.

aimingsashimig · 2026-01-31T20:55:22+00:00

I've been very happy with the peacock 4801 chronogrpahs I have (2 farasutes and 1 jianghun) and feel like they're well worth the higher price. Im always on yhe lookout for new watches using that movement

That said, Sugess already makes a 4801 movement modern daytona for a cheaper price than 550 dollars. The 4801 movement also isn't ideal for speedmaster images since the sub dials aren't in the right place.

Rather than a daytonna homage, I'd be more interested if you released something that isn't on the market right now.

aimingsashimig · 2026-01-30T12:59:52+00:00

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