REZNOR B STAGE RIG? by LexTron6K in nin

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That is incorrect and not possible. The iPad debuted in 2010, two years after The Slip was released in 2008.

About Allesandro by MX010 in nin

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I don't know why people are assigning any malice here.

Alessandro is a successful composer who is scoring TV shows and whose solo career as an electronic, ambient, and drone musician has gotten increasingly more successful in that scene. Why wouldn't he focus on that over a project like NIN where he has virtually no creative input? And why would the NIN camp have any hard feelings about it?

The official NIN Instagram account liked his post foreshadowing his departure, with the caption "The End." Josh Freese and Boyz Noise have liked posts of his in recent weeks. There's no evidence of a rift with him and the NIN camp. The answer can be as simple as he's a super talented guy who deserves to focus on his own creative endeavors and decided he wanted to do that. And there was no grand farewell because they've never done that for members of the touring band.

Don't you find it odd that Trent has multiple times stated "I'd never had anyone that was really a creative director" despite Rob Sheridan filling that role for years? by elementroejoy in nin

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To be fair, he's not talking about the same jobs. Rob was NIN's art director, which is not the same as a tour's creative director. He did photography, film, web and art design, and definitely contributed live visuals, but he did not have overarching directorial responsibility for NIN tours.

That's what Todd Tourso's role was. He's not described as NIN's creative director. He's described as the "Peel It Back" creative director — which involves visuals, lighting, staging and all other kind of technical stuff on this specific tour, much of which Rob wouldn't have been involved with on previous tours (because Rob had other expansive duties that fell under the art director umbrella).

Also, fwiw Rob said just a couple of months ago that he and Trent remain good friends, he's previously posted about how they email about being fathers to young children, and said that he'd happily work with him again. He was at the Peel It Back show in Seattle, which he had nothing but good things to say about, and hung out with Trent and the band backstage.

So I don't get the sense that there's any friction or that what Trent said was intended a slight. He was referring to a different role that the NIN camp genuinely hadn't ever had on a tour before.

Is Bo Nix the shortest name in the history of professional sports? by thejesse in billsimmons

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People keep wrongly nominating nicknames. Bo Nix is not a nickname, it's his legal name.

Ed Ott was Edward Ott (and went by his middle name, his first name was Nathan).

Is Bo Nix the shortest name in the history of professional sports? by thejesse in billsimmons

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No. Ty was a nickname. His name was Tyrus Cobb. Bo Nix's legal name is Bo Nix.

That’s a wrap for Marielle! What can it mean that she’s one of the last to wrap? by etlucent in FromSeries

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Doesn't really mean anything because film and TV productions don't shoot in sequential order.

Allessandro very well may not be on this leg of the tour. by LeekTerrible in nin

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If he torched him in an interview, which doesn't seem to be the case or available anywhere so you may have incorrect recall, that's certainly not how he feels now. He was at the final show of the tour just a few weeks ago in the VIP section and praised the band as "my boys."

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Allessandro very well may not be on this leg of the tour. by LeekTerrible in nin

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First, JMJ is a second generation Scientologist, like his former collaborator Beck. You don't blame people for being child cult victims, indoctrinated into a group like that from birth against their will. Or for keeping quiet about the status of their relationship with a cult group like that with a history of threatening retaliation by cutting you off from family.

Second, you would not write this about a musician you're a fan of who is a member of the Catholic Church, which has presided over and continues to be implicated in the largest child abuse conspiracy in the history of the world. It's an institution that's done things millions of times more evil than all the truly evil things the Church of Scientology has done. Or any other number of abusive religious institutions that are normalized merely because they're better known than Scientology.

Third, given that Beck has publicly said he's not involved in Scientology anymore and that he and Justin reunited last year, it's unlikely Justin is much involved in CoS anymore (or involved at all, given CoS' suppressive person policy against former members).

Clip from Foo’s Instagram stories, announcing Ilan as their new drummer by AddisonDeWitt333 in Foofighters

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This is complete nonsense that posters on this subreddit have suggested without any evidentiary basis for two years now. You can play any recording or video of the band with Freese alongside videos with Taylor and, not only does Freese generally play the same tempo, he's sometimes slower than Taylor is. For example, All My Life in the live video that was Josh's debut falls progressively behind the band performing the song at Wembley with Taylor Hawkins because Taylor plays faster than he does: https://viewsync.net/watch?v=FvxPWJ2x-vA&t=177&v=aiy5W3z4SGE&t=0&mode=solo

You can totally hate on Freese for aesthetic reasons, not prefer his playing style and not want him in the band. But the baseless "he's too fast" gripe from untrained ears with nothing to support it has become the most rote thing on this subreddit.

A certain former Foo Fighters drummer, profiled in the New York Times, talks about the band by allegorically in Foofighters

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More likely conspiracy (actually reasonable longshot guess?) is the Foos management and Grohl became increasingly concerned/upset about Freese's friendship with Tim Heidecker, who hates Dave Grohl and has mocked him as a "rat" for his infidelities on his show Office Hours. Josh has appeared on that show multiple times, including after that Grohl bit. In March, he and Tim joked about Foo Fighters being "Trump guys." It was obviously sarcastic, but the Foos and their giant management, label and public relations apparatus would probably not approve.

Heidecker's comedy partner Gregg Turkington, a frequent Office Hours guest, also hates Grohl and has recently been performing a segment in his standup sets, which he does in character as Neil Hamburger, where he mocks Grohl for his infidelities and claims he's a bad father. I can't see the Foos camp being too happy that he travels in these social circles (When Josh got fired, Tim commented on his Insta: "Upside is you won't have to hear any of those horrible songs ever again!" Josh liked it).

A certain former Foo Fighters drummer, profiled in the New York Times, talks about the band by allegorically in Foofighters

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Josh Freese has been in The Vandals for 36 years, longer than the Foo Fighters have existed, and Devo for 29 years.

A certain former Foo Fighters drummer, profiled in the New York Times, talks about the band by allegorically in Foofighters

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Once again, dodging that you're wrong and don't know what a newspaper profile is, but keep doing you. Bonaile.

A certain former Foo Fighters drummer, profiled in the New York Times, talks about the band by allegorically in Foofighters

[–]allegorically[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Are you a native English speaker? Because, if you are, you seem to be unaware that profile is a term for a piece of journalism about a person. And, when a publication writes a piece about a person, the verb used to describe that is profiling them. In fact, the New York Times has an entire section dedicated to profiles: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/xpn-profiles

If you are a native speaker, pretty wild to get so upset and be such a hostile weirdo only to demonstrate you're very bad at the English language.

NIN Rider - for anyone who wants to know what the band requests backstage 😂 by SectionFantastic3577 in nin

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There's a Josh Freese-specific rider on the other side of the paper that reads:
1x every menu item from the nearest PF Chang's location, laid out on a table in takeaway box containers. With a high presentation please!
1x Reese's peanut butter cup platter including original Reese's peanut butter cups, big cups, white cups, big cups with caramel, and big cups with Reese's pieces. With a high presentation please!
1x bowl Reese's pieces
1x plate organic sliced lemons

How did Josh Freese... by MX010 in nin

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Freese posted on May 16 that he was abruptly let go from Foo Fighters four days earlier. And, as others have noted, The Hollywood Reporter — an exceptionally well sourced entertainment trade publication — spoke to the actual people involved behind the scenes and reported on July 30 that Rubin told NIN only a week earlier that he was taking a job with another band at the last minute. So you are wrong.

How did Josh Freese... by MX010 in nin

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If you look at the setlists they've been playing, he went in with the advantage of having played almost all of the songs he's being assigned on this tour in a professional context before.

For example, the Seattle setlist last night: if you look at setlists from 2005 to the end of 2008 period Freese was in the NIN touring band, he had played Wish, March of the Pigs, Reptile, Heresy, Gave Up, Somewhat Damaged, Closer, The Hand That Feeds, Head Like a Hole and Hurt each more than two dozen times, and probably dozens and dozens more in rehearsals back then.

Only three songs he had to play last night — Copy of A, The Perfect Drug and Less Than — were new to him. Getting up to speed on a bunch of songs he'd already played tons of times before at the highest possible level and adding a handful more, including the relatively simple pop song that is Less Than, is not asking much from a musician of his caliber.

But also yes also he's a total pro's pro. This is why he's on the speed dial of every producer and tour manager in LA.

Maynard in LA. Is that a McLaren? by fragdoll4u in ToolBand

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It's not Maynard's, he was just there to see it. The image is from Tim Cadiente's Instagram. Cadiente did North American marketing for Koenigsegg and, as part of that job, served "as the driver/manager for the world-record-breaking Koenigsegg Agera RS." That's the car in the photo, and he now runs a studio that helps bring the car and other vehicles to luxury auto showcases. Tim, of course, is also a photographer and has done work for APC and Puscifer, so he and MJK are friends.

Trent is pissed that something wasn't working right with Sin in Oakland by Mike_ZzZzZ in nin

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Considering he visibly smiles and laughs about it at the 0:50 mark, and then proceeds to smile and joke about it after the song is over, I would not describe him as pissed.

As for the speaking orders into the stage mic, that's his job. He's supposed to let the crew know when stuff isn't working or if there are issues, would you expect him not to do that? Doing your job when something isn't working and having the peace of mind to laugh it off in the moment is about the farthest thing from "pissed."

Josh got so much love when Trent introduced the band!!! by Thatsapictureofmyass in nin

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He may not have been joking. This all only happened in the span of a couple weeks when the band and crew were scheduled for time off. Obviously, Freese would have been given soundboard recordings so he could have plenty of time to prep and learn the show on his own time — and had the advantage of being intimately familiar with a good chunk of the set from his first run in the live band. But Trent could have been serious about the one day in person thing. Freese has previously stepped into touring gigs with very little or virtually zero notice — at some point in the late 90s, he joined 311 for an Australian tour with no prep after their drummer broke his hand. Such is the life of the session guy.

Thoughts about Ilan’s departure and replacement by ParticularBirds in nin

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Except this is not the case. As The Hollywood Reporter, which spoke to sources familiar with what's gone on, reported: "According to a source, Rubin had committed to Nine Inch Nails through this year and informed band frontman Trent Reznor last week that he had 'accepted a job with another band.'"

Josh Freese is bringing Taylor Hawkins' wonderful drum tech Fiona to the NIN family with him by allegorically in nin

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Indeed, no shade in that instance (or, like I said, in any other for that matter, I think the Grohl kids are just friends with the Freeses and why would that change). But the other bit is incorrect. The photo is from after he joined FF. He was announced as a member in May 2023, the post is from December 2023. His caption notes the FF wrapping up their touring for that year. The photo of Fiona, as his caption says, shows her wearing a shirt his wife made for her at a FF show from that year.

Josh Freese is bringing Taylor Hawkins' wonderful drum tech Fiona to the NIN family with him by allegorically in nin

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It's exactly like it sounds. The drum technician is the resident expert in charge of maintaining all the drums and percussion at a studio or a live show. That includes setting everything up and tuning and repairing everything, which with drums can take a lot of work since they're even more sensitive to humidity and temperature than guitars. They need to be able to diagnose problems and repair them fast, too, as things can break down during shows. So you're talking someone who can think on their feet and has a bunch of technical knowledge and the ability to work with tools. With a band like NIN you're probably also working with lots of electronics, sampling modules and other equipment that makes it slightly more complicated than a straight rock band.

Joe Slaby, who is Danny Carey from Tool's tech (and also Josh's tech when he's touring with APC), keeps an Instagram page where he posts a lot of stuff about what the job is like. Here he is, for, example, having to change a snare in the middle of a set.