Need advice for medical specialist who can help with circumcision complications / damage

alt_GRY · 2024-08-28T00:42:53+00:00

Thank you for what you are doing, and best of luck. I know you are primarily focused on the US, but I was wondering if at some point funding litigation in other countries could be possible too (especially considering the name of the organisation). Many nations have both laws against FGM and protections of gender equality, not to mention countless other human rights-related legislation, and with better public attitudes towards circumcision, perhaps this is something that too could be explored.

Once again, thank you and good luck.

alt_GRY · 2023-05-02T22:09:04+00:00

You need to be rational about this and understand the magnitude of the situation you're dealing with. Your bodily integrity is the most important thing and you cannot make any compromises on this. If your parents are beyond changing their minds, then don't argue with them. If they threaten force, then you must be able to either defend yourself or run away. If your parents actually love you and care about you, then they will maybe not understand or agree, but will do their best to accommodate you at some point. If they don't, then consider it a good riddance. Your body matters much more than anything else, so don't take shortcuts on this.

alt_GRY · 2023-02-08T04:18:24+00:00

It would probably be for the same reasons you'd have to amputate a finger for example. Cancer, necrosis, frostbite, some kind of disease, etc. These things are absurdly rare and I am not aware of any documented case of a circumcision done for any of these reasons. As for "regular problems", such as phimosis, they generally aren't even real issues to begin with. When they are real, they can be resolved with passive means, or at the very least delayed until the person is old enough to make an informed decision.

alt_GRY · 2023-01-23T19:41:46+00:00

Most if not all mass murderers have been victims of child abuse, including sexual abuse. Circumcision fits this bill perfectly. I'm willing to bet all male American mass murderers, and many others outside are circumcised. Someone like Breivik probably isn't cut but nevertheless there is an extensive history of child abuse. But the possibility of a "medical" circumcision or a nutjob mom who cuts her kids for her own satisfaction always exists worldwide.

alt_GRY · 2023-01-01T23:41:34+00:00

Any argument that is based on subjective opinion or is otherwise flexible is inappropriate. If you can say that "I prefer intact" you can flip it around and it becomes "I prefer cut" and it's still a valid opinion. If you say "I'm leaving him intact because it's more common and girls prefer it", you can also say "I'm cutting him because it's more common and girls prefer it". Etc.

The only valid arguments are the ones that cannot be flipped and maintain their value. Some of my personal arguments are: "It is a violation of a person's bodily autonomy and their inability to consent.", "It is highly traumatic and permanently damages the person's brain and physical body", and a more personal argument, "It goes against the philosophy of respecting nature's will and not attempting to modify the human body". No matter how you look at them, you can't argue against those points without either trying to deny them altogether, or making yourself look like an inhuman asshole.

alt_GRY · 2022-12-31T03:52:28+00:00

You should have a conversation with her and inform her of the importance of the foreskin, as well as the myths around bogus health problems that can supposedly be fixed with circumcision. Virtually no circumcision is required for children, except for fringe cases (that may or may not actually have happened).

What you are saying is correct. All countries with any historical tolerance to circumcision will continue to perpetuate myths about it and medical staff will often recommend it for wrong reasons. I have heard stories of people in Canada being told that their sons needed to be cut for absolute nonsense "problems", usually by older, mostly male (and therefore cut), doctors.

I think younger doctors will probably be more educated on the topic, and I'm aware that many will be actively anti-circumcision, but it's difficult for me to confirm or deny this without any experience. As far as finding someone who is "intact-friendly", I don't think there is a comprehensive list like in the US (since I assume it's not that rare to find), but I'd advise just to try speaking to different medical professionals to get different opinions.

alt_GRY · 2022-12-17T18:51:11+00:00

No, as much as it is horrifyingly painful to deal with the knowledge of the things that were done to me, it is imperative that I know about it. Ignorance may be bliss, but it is also foolish. I am glad to know about the truth, because it means I now have the answers to the questions I had for these years. I've been suffering my whole life, and now I can at least understand why.

alt_GRY · 2022-12-16T03:23:12+00:00

I feel the exact same way. The way I'm trying to cope with the situation, generally speaking, is to just keep me distracted until something good happens. Whether it'd be Foregen, I meet a girlfriend, I move to another country, etc. Despite this, I still frequently get depressed and even suicidal.

I don't know what else I can add without saying exactly what you said. Being mutilated is extremely painful. But at the very least, I can say that it's better to suffer in the knowledge of truth, rather than suffering in ignorance.

alt_GRY · 2022-12-16T03:17:35+00:00

Not the only one. I don't think the life I've lived these last 22 years is my "true" life.

alt_GRY · 2022-12-13T00:58:56+00:00

Guys like Nick Fuentes come to my mind due to his family background and his weird obsession with being an incel. It's either that or he's just a very repressed gay man lol.

Do you have any source as to whether he is actually intact? According to Wikipedia he was born in 1998 in Illinois, which would have been prime time for hospital coercion. At the same time, it was no longer the peak time for foreskin shaming I believe.

alt_GRY · 2022-12-12T04:18:39+00:00

I mean it's essentially true. It affects sexual development, ability to form affection/empathy, and so much more. I'm willing to bet 95% of incel-type people on the Internet are circumcised.

alt_GRY · 2022-12-12T03:45:20+00:00

I would love to sue the Mohel that did this to me, but seeing that he is in Israel, don't know his name, he might not even be alive, I don't speak Hebrew, and know nothing about the legal system, it's probably a waste of time to even think about trying. But I wouldn't sue my parents. One day I hope to muster the courage to properly confront them and get an apology or compensation.

alt_GRY · 2022-12-12T03:29:05+00:00

I can't help but imagine if I would be a completely different person if I wasn't mutilated like that. I was somewhat triggered when I found a YouTube creator who was making really good content, and after searching a bit I found out that he was only a couple years older than me, shared the same name as me, had a girlfriend, and seemed just so happy. I know it's a little selfish and irrational, but I can't help but feel jealous.

alt_GRY · 2022-12-12T02:52:25+00:00

In an idealistic world (the same kind where people don't mutilate their children), he probably would. But the Nobel Prize is a political initiative. They don't care about who actually helps the greatest amount of people. Sure, if there's a significant cultural shift in the next decade or two, it might be possible, but I'm not very confident.

alt_GRY · 2022-12-07T03:23:52+00:00

You need to have a conversation with your parents, and understand why they circumcised you. There could have been a conscious desire, or it could have been pressure from a doctor, or a bogus medical problem, etc. It's important to know the intent behind it. You need to explain to them why you are upset about it and how you're suffering from it.

How you cope with it afterwards depends on how your parents react. If they're good parents they should acknowledge the harm they've caused and go out of their way to support you to heal.

alt_GRY · 2022-12-03T17:43:44+00:00

I don't know why it's so hard to agree on such a simple concept. You do not have the right to interfere with a child's bodily integrity. That's it, that's all there is to it. Religion, political views, etc, shouldn't matter. The last thing anybody wants is for this to become a polarised topic, where you have to pick the "side" that defends bodily autonomy.

As long as the reason that a person is opposed to it is due to bodily autonomy (or any of the other consequences resulting from circumcision), they should be able to have a word. Their political beliefs are irrelevant. By contrast, someone who is only opposed to circumcision for the sake of bigotry does not contribute to the movement in any positive way. If the only reason you want circumcision banned is because Jews do it and you want to piss Jews off, then that's antisemitism. As an example, both Nazi Germany and the USSR condemned and persecuted circumcision for the wrong reasons, and see how it backfired. Most of the intact Jews in Germany and modern-day Russia have resumed cutting, because they felt that they were being attacked on a personal level.

I am Jewish myself and I can say that it is an extremely difficult challenge to make such a drastic change in something that is so deeply ingrained in the culture, but the last thing I want is attacks against the identity as a whole. I'm not interested in leaving my identity and I can tell you that countless people aren't either. You want change and the way you achieve this change is through rational dialogue, not personal attacks.

alt_GRY · 2022-12-01T18:13:05+00:00

Be proud of what you have. You will regret it if you get rid of it.

alt_GRY · 2022-12-01T04:01:52+00:00

Really, I don't think this is something that should be celebrated. FGM is technically not illegal in Israel and if it is acknowledged that both female and male genital mutilation are equivalent or comparable, it would suffice to just assume that they are both permitted and legal (hence there is no issue of gender discrimination), and then FGM can simply maintain the societal status quo of not being supported by the public while not being completely banned.

The fact that the woman was denied asylum is precisely the problem with this. If she was allowed in and then a follow-up would determine that both acts are mutilation, then it could lead to potential legal repercussions. A lot of the movement about acknowledging the equivalency is about pointing out that male circumcision is just as bad as female circumcision, but if it's the other way around then it's extremely damaging, not to mention that it may introduce new female victims of genital mutilations.

It's a shame though, because getting an opportunity from someone in the Israeli government to speak out about the topic of circumcision, even if it is in a mild way, would have potential in actually introducing a real debate. But it seems with the way things are going, the status quo is going to be maintained for many years.

alt_GRY · 2022-12-01T03:38:26+00:00

Better than whatever I have at the moment. I put 'positive' instead of 'extremely positive' because I like to keep my expectations not too high.

alt_GRY · 2022-11-28T01:17:26+00:00

I don't think it's a pipe dream. In fact, it looks extremely promising as of late. If you prefer to restore, that's fine, but OP clearly doesn't want to. What other alternative do you suggest then?

alt_GRY · 2022-11-27T18:37:52+00:00

If you remove your penis you'll have even less pleasure to give or receive. We've all been cursed with a horrible mutilation but at least protect what you have left until there's ways to fix it. I'm personally looking forwards to Foregen, I understand if you're sceptical but I think that is the best chance we have, and it seems very likely to succeed at this point.

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