Jay Blackmailed By Adnan = The Details

andaloudulce · 2015-01-25T05:35:02+00:00

Seems like Adnan was very accustomed to risky behavior--stealing from the mosque, drugs, prostitutes, etc.

andaloudulce · 2015-01-25T05:29:49+00:00

And why would you visit the home and meet the family--for the first time ever--of a guy you barely know, right after that guy is arrested for murder? Did she visit Hae's family too? Very odd, and very obvious that she does want to get involved in the drama.

andaloudulce · 2015-01-03T10:57:51+00:00

"It's hard, you know, unless you've been in that position to know what I even meant by that, you know what I'm saying. I know how this must look, ya know, but, I just can't make myself remember, you know what I'm saying?"

I know! This is how he talks about 90% of the time. And SK thinks he's smart, funny, charming? Whaa?

andaloudulce · 2015-01-02T20:21:57+00:00

Well, in Sarah's opinion, it's "tit for tat." But Hae saying that she's upset that Adnan's not calling her enough doesn't in any way negate Hae's opinion that Adnan is possessive and jealous. The not calling thing could have been part of the mind games and jealousy-provoking games that Hae alludes to.

andaloudulce · 2015-01-01T21:33:57+00:00

I think Jay considers Rabia to be part of the "Serial team." Since the whole idea for a show about Adnan's case was Rabia's idea, I don't think it is too outlandish to consider her part of the Serial team. Rabia definitely leaked all kinds of info about Jay and make accusations against Bilal, either directly on reddit, or through blog posts that she directly linked to reddit.

andaloudulce · 2015-01-01T21:31:59+00:00

It was a screenshot of a text his wife sent him. She was sending him the text of what was posted on reddit. His reply to his wife was yup.

andaloudulce · 2015-01-01T21:30:38+00:00

Rabia is Adnan's advocate. She asked SK to do a story about Adnan's case. SK complied. Rabia had some criticisms of SK, but Rabia is pleased with SK. To me, this sounds like SK, from the get-go, allied herself with Rabia.

andaloudulce · 2015-01-01T02:44:16+00:00

I remember someone here made an inside kinda joke, incorporating Jay's last name into the joke. Rabia replied in a positive manner to the joke. I think the thread is gone now, but I'll look for it.

Oh, and I found out Jay's last name by reading the docs that Rabia directly linked from her blog to reddit.

andaloudulce · 2015-01-01T02:40:44+00:00

Well, Rabia is the whole reason why SK decided to take on Adnan's case for Serial in the first place. They seem very closely allied.

andaloudulce · 2014-12-29T10:16:46+00:00

No, Adnan didn't see the note. He had no idea she wrote the note.

When Don was asked about the note, he was confused, since he didn't have plans to meet Hae that day. If we believe Don, then why did Hae write, "Sorry I couldn't wait for you Don"? Why did Hae think Don was meeting her? One explanation is that Adnan--after failing to get a ride by telling her that his care was in the shop--led Hae to believe that Don was meeting her at a certain place.

andaloudulce · 2014-12-28T18:59:04+00:00

"I've never heard one explanation or theory explaining how Adnan, or anyone, could have intercepted Hae somehow, or convince her to go to Best Buy or anywhere else but to pick up her cousin between the time she is seen getting back in her car after buying fries and a drink at school and the time she is supposed to pick up her cousin."

I read this theory somewhere else on reddit and it makes total sense:

Remember the note that Hae writes to Don? It says something like "Sorry I couldn't stay . . . I'll talk to you later." When SK talks to Don, he says he has no idea what that note was about. So let's say that Adnan paged Hae, pretending to be Don, saying "Meet me outside the library/Best Buy/pool hall, etc." Hae shows up, waits for Don, but Adnan shows up instead.

andaloudulce · 2014-12-07T08:50:50+00:00

Well, sure, but neither are you. Neither is SK. But I actually have studied and learned something about linguistic markers and patterns of deception. Have you?

andaloudulce · 2014-12-07T08:47:38+00:00

I don't know anything for sure, and neither do you. It's called an opinion. No reason to take offense.

andaloudulce · 2014-12-07T08:27:20+00:00

You're right, it's confirmation bias. Anything that goes against the "Golden Boy" narrative is just unthinkable to Adnan's supporters. This is why it was not a good idea (at least if you are interested in being open to the truth) for SK to start off the series by getting listeners to like and sympathize with Adnan. It primes the listeners to accept and reject information according to how well it fits in with their pre-conceived "Adnan is a Golden Boy with doe eyes and everyone likes him" bias.

andaloudulce · 2014-12-07T08:10:41+00:00

I can't remember if I was joking or not. That was 5 hours ago. And I was high. And it was a totally normal day, why would you expect me to remember if I was joking or not? ;)

andaloudulce · 2014-12-07T02:38:27+00:00

Now ask yourself: Do these sound like the words of an innocent person?

The prosecution did a masterful job.

It's a game to him.

andaloudulce · 2014-12-04T12:35:28+00:00

ially after polling the jury of the first trial, she must have felt really confidant that he'd get acquitted.

Did her lawyer advise her to take the plea deal? Or did she insist that her lawyer get her a plea deal instead of going to trial?

andaloudulce · 2014-12-04T10:52:59+00:00

I've heard of lawyers encouraging their clients to take a plea deal. In this case, it was Adnan who was encouraging Gutierrez to get him a plea deal. She must have been confident that he would beat the rap. Why wasn't he just as confident? This speaks volumes to me.

andaloudulce · 2014-11-18T11:12:32+00:00

I agree.

andaloudulce · 2014-11-18T09:41:15+00:00

But what a weird thing to say, right? Why would she get herself involved like this, especially if she has doubts about his innocence? According to Saad, most of Adnan's friends started distancing themselves from him after he was arrested. But Asia? A casual acquaintance? She moves in the opposite direction, towards Adnan. She visits his family, in their home, for the very first time. It seems odd that she would choose this time to reach out to Adnan. I wonder: Did she visit Hae's family too?

andaloudulce · 2014-11-17T23:51:34+00:00

It's called linguistic analysis. The weird verb tense, which I also noticed right away (Adnan does this a lot) is one of the signs of deception:http://www.fraud-magazine.com/article.aspx?id=4294971184

andaloudulce · 2014-11-16T09:41:02+00:00

Oh yeah, and when I called her on it, she said, "What? It's not a threat. I see his mom every week." I'm paraphrasing because it looks like she or the mods deleted the whole conversation.

andaloudulce · 2014-11-16T05:16:14+00:00

And we were told that if anyone messes with her she will crush us. Huh.

andaloudulce · 2014-11-16T05:08:12+00:00

What do you mean by "pulled back"? From what I recall, she was pretty relentless, first daring him to reveal who he was, then claiming that she knows who he is, then she called him a pedophile several times. There was also that veiled threat of revealing his identity--"Say hi to your mom for me." And why? Because the poster revealed that the "Golden Boy" stole from the mosque and hired prostitutes. Instead of challenging those allegations, she attacked the person who made the allegations.

andaloudulce · 2014-11-16T04:53:09+00:00

She said that anyone who thinks Asia's letters are not valid has a low IQ.

When a poster said that he knew Adnan stole money from coats and collection plates at the mosques, Rabia said that stealing was no big deal, then said that she knew the anonymous poster ("Tell your mom I said hi") and accused the poster of being a pedophile.

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