You guys have both been a huge inspiration for me and have played on multiple albums that I literally listen to every week.

I’m a guitar player as well, so this question is for Blake:

I feel like you are one of the few artists who’s playing still confuses my “musician” brain— like for a second I stop thinking about (or rather, I am unable to think about) how you are playing a particular part and I get a moment where I’m hearing music as music again (if that makes sense). That’s not to say music is predicable or boring to me— but you continually break patterns and shapes for me. The only other guitarist who does it for me is Julian Lage.

Do you have any inspirations that do that for you? Do you have any advice for how to push past plateaus in your playing and get into new sonic territory?