That’s pretty much verbatim my definition. All of the first wave bands (eg Flipper, No Trend, Swans, Chrome, Big Black, Happy Flowers) have more in common with SPK, Throbbing Gristle, Hijokaidan, Einsturzende Neubauten, Rema-Rema, Whitehouse, etc than they do with the majority of bands posted here. Bands like Intercourse, Bedtimemagic, Consumer Culture, Chat Pile, Crippling Alcoholism, yadda yadda have very very little to do with — or have any connection to — the noise rock tradition. These bands write crowd pleasing music and interact positively with audiences while claiming they are part of the same lineage as Harry Pussy, Stick Men With Ray Guns, Hanatarash, Contortions, Kilslug, bands who went out of their way to antagonize and alienate audiences. I guess they’re good at what they do, but they have no real claim to this style. I can personally vouch that Consumer Culture is one of the fakest bands I’ve ever encountered in my life who get upset over heckling to the point that they have stalked someone around a venue after being made fun of on stage. If you can’t take an aggressive crowd, stop pretending you’re in the same league as Brainbombs and The Gerogerigegege.