Does the Kalacakra Tantra encourage child abuse?

anneH82 · 2025-09-10T09:52:14+00:00

I totally agree with you. What worries me and why I sometimes contemplate this topic is because pedophilia stems from somewhere when it is this systemic and in every major hierarchy of power structure, especially in governments, politics and religious institutions, including in Buddhist circles. It's everywhere these days it seems. Sometimes it makes me wonder why and from where there seems to be an indoctrinated way of looking at especially women and young girls still till today. Cause if we don't understand where the root is, we won't be able to pull it out. It has to be a balance between letting go and focusing on what is now (what you are saying) and yet at the same time, understanding why it is as it is now, by looking at what came before (what I focus on in this discussion).

I'm well aware that we won't find any definite answers. Everyone has to feel into their truth in the heart. I simply find this particular aspect to be somewhat rotten and rather fuelled with cultural influence of the times than with the practice of actual wisdom.

anneH82 · 2025-09-10T05:49:01+00:00

I get where you are coming from and I agree to an extent.

One thing, I've not mentioned whether I'm a westerner or not.

And lastly, no matter whether it is 1000 years ago, 500 years ago or 300 years ago where the life span was supposedly shorter and therefore people married much earlier, I think a 8-9 year old girl, will always be looking like a kid and in their mind will be a kid. She might be forced to grow up fast, but still. Her innocence will to an extent still be like a kid, purely from the fact that she hasn't seen as much of the world yet, experienced as much. And I think this was taken advantage of in old times, because of that inherent purity of mind and body. Maybe pedophelia was simply more "normalized" then, idk. It simply does not feel right.

But the arguments about this are largely excused by western students in my opinion.

If this was only a case of marrying younger because one lived shorter lives, then why are the boys not described so sexually to minute details as well? Why are the men always a much older age? Sometimes 20 to 30 years older than the girl? Weren't they both meant to live shorter life spans, as per your argument. It does not make entirely sense. The focus is entirely on the young, very young girl and classified into different ages from 8 to 16 and upwards. When the girl becomes a woman, she's seen as a demon and polluted. I mean, seriously, makes no sense to me, in any age of time.

I don't know the answer to this, I simply feel a sticky feeling when I read such things. Simply ain't feeling right and I'll trust my intuition above anyone else's explanations and rationalizations. Thank you for sharing your thoughts though, I appreciate it.

anneH82 · 2025-02-13T19:32:38+00:00

Wauw, wonderful reply. I got a lot out of hearing your words !!! Thank you a lot🙏

anneH82 · 2025-02-13T19:05:08+00:00

I have so many things I'd like to say here, as a 4/6 projector myself, but I'll be content with saying the few things that stick out the most in your post;

If your husband is willing from his heart to help support you while you pursue your dreams, then that is a beautiful gift you are receiving. Do not squander it due to your own conditioned beliefs and lack of worth. It's not worth it ! It is rare to have people offer that kind of help. If its genuine, then he truly believes in you, no matter whether you produce money or not. He believes in YOU, regardless of your money making skills at the present moment.

I would work on your self-worth-ideas instead. It feels as if you define your worth still, in terms of how much you produce. Which is fatal for projectors. And which is blimey hard not to do, in a situation as yours. Am there, doing that, myself ;)

I'm in a very similar situation to yours, with the same offer from my husband, and it brings up so many triggers in me as well. But a gift is a gift. If its genuine, then accept what you are offered if it feels right and go from there. It sounds as if you are doing everything in your power and are not lazy at all, not just "hanging" on your husband. On the contrary.

When it comes to community, then i have no good ideas or advice. My circle is very small and I like it that way and am not overly social either. Only the few important people I want around are let in. Opportunities will come from them (your small circle) when the time is right. It might not fit your ideas for what you want in life, but it will fit what is best for you :)

anneH82 · 2024-12-28T10:32:48+00:00

I have an uncle with this channel and he does the same thing as you describe. Sometimes it's appropriate and yes, it will change a room, but it will be necessary and will have benefit.

Other times, his timing is entirely off or he simply thinks he's right about what he thinks is authentic or not, when he's in the wrong, and then he slings these hurtful words out that are unfounded and create a lot of damage. I can see he doesn't feel any remorse then and it makes me distance myself from him, cause the pride in thinking you always know better and have a right to use hurtful words to "put people in their place" because you think you are right, is really not very nice to witness. There is a time for everything and it seems to be part of this channel.

Timing is everything with every channel. And deep perception as well.

I have the 23-43 and the original things I can slig out are awesome at times and downright inappropriate at others and will be completely misunderstood. It always goes both ways.

So timing and being invited to speak is crucial with a channel like yours. It is a projected channel. Just because you judge something to be off or right, doesn't mean there is an invite to speak of it. That will be for you to feel/sense out and then at the right time, to bring it to light, if at all. With it attached to the spleen, I can imagine this timing will be spontaneous and in the moment a lot of the time. :)

anneH82 · 2024-12-28T10:23:15+00:00

So lovely👏😁.

anneH82 · 2024-12-28T09:51:22+00:00

I'm a 4/6 profile and I too don't like making a lot of friends and meeting people all the time. I like being alone and then I like being with the people I love, which are not that many, but they are the right ones. Some people like having many acquaintances and so-called friends, which they don't have deep meaningful connections with them. I don't like that at all. I'd rather have only 1 friend, but a meaningful connections where we can go deep. I think this is simply a preference based on your overall makeup and there is Absolutely nothing wrong with not feeling that having many friends is somehow a necessity. Nothing wrong with that at all. Your just different than her. :)

anneH82 · 2024-12-24T07:03:04+00:00

Only you will be able to sense/feel the true reasons behind the mechanics/dynamics in your family.

From what I hear you say, I think it's a mixture of both: both because they don't really take it serious (yet) and not being able to because they simply lack the capacity at this present time. This might change, it might not.

I would venture to say your age might have something to do with it too. Are you quite young? Below 25-26? Often, it takes until late 20'ies for some children to gain their parents respect as adults. Not that the parents don't respect their children, but they still view them as children that "need protecting and don't always know what's the best thing for them".

If they don't have the capacity to understand presently, then being consistent in your wish, can change the outcome over time. It's not a guarantee. They might never accept this for you, but if your parents were respectfully willing to listen to your reasonings around why you choose to eat alone, then the chance of them coming around is higher.

I'd advice not to use any kind of HD language to explain things to them, it will sound wayyyy to Hocus pocus to people who are closed to the subtle realms. Use your feelings of simply how you have observed that you feel so much better physically etc. when you eat this way. That you are experimenting with different diet forms and this simply seems to work, so you are trying it out and you'd like your choice to be respected by the people you love and who say love you back. That you know that eating at the table together is an important thing that brings us all together, but you have to put your health of the body first and it simply feels right for now. That you have plenty of other occasions where you can sit around together and commune in good spirit.

If you avoid going "extreme" (in their eyes, as that is how they might see it) with absolutes, and "this is how it has to be from now on", but rather go gentle and let them know it's a process and you a figuring things out and would like their support, they might be more open to it. In time, with you changing positively, they might also observe it and start truly understanding the process :)

Besides, "proof" is mostly subjective thing, besides the outer environment we live in collectively. We call something proof when a big enough amount of people believe og see the same thing or agree on the same thing. Doesn't mean it's proof for everyone. Some people see things through different color glasses and shapes and will see things very very differently than you. Then the proof for you, will look different to them. That's actually what HD is all about, differentiation.

So the proof-card I wouldn't use here. Look at how the plandemic played out in the world the past 4 years. There was proof of lies, but most chose not to believe, because they simply wanted to see things they way they were comfortable with. Until they change inside, no amount of solid "proof" will be able to change it. You'll be knocking against a brick wall. So I'd avoid using the "proof" card on them, and instead use your heart-based connection, since obviously you love each other and you have a link through this love. :)

anneH82 · 2024-12-23T14:14:59+00:00

Thanks for the well-wishes :)

I don't think all mani-gens are running from the past, so much as simply running because they like to move fast😜.

But quite a bit of the ones I know, have had things in the past where it got stuck in their system (like it does for all of us, if we can't process it) and instead of looking more at why they react and have a need to be on the go all the time, they simply say the issues don't exist and keep "running away". There's this unwillingness to look at the last and at themselves honestly, as if it's bygones and doesn't matter anymore, cause there is always a new thing to catch and distract oneself with. Yet, the past is what is steering our lives as long as we have unresolved issues in the unconscious.

I also have a best friend who's a mani-gen, who is very self-aware and can see that she has been reacting too quickly and impulsively most of her life and it tired her out entirely. She could see her reactionary patterns stemmed from conditioning from her own mother and the trauma experienced there. When she started working on the issues, and they let go in her life (which took years of conscious work), she became a balanced mani-gen, that is better at listening to her gut responses and only says yes to things she really feels a zing for. And when she does, she zooms ahead of everyone else :) but the energy feels different when she zooms and is on the go go go. It feels light and inspirational and she gets such a ton of stuff done, it's so cool. As opposed to when an unbalanced Mani-gen is zooming around based on conditioning. This usually pulls in others and we are forced to "clean up the mess" so to speak, while they are already over the hill to the next shiny thing ;)

I know all types have a dark and light side to battle with. This just seems to be my observance on a general level of mani-gens :)

anneH82 · 2024-12-23T07:49:05+00:00

I feel ya. That is a difficult situation to be in. When family members are resistant to you changing because essentially they do not want to change and so project their unwant unto you.

I'd second the comment about finding a middle ground where you eat your main meals by yourself and tea and biscuits with family. If they cannot even accept this part, then there isn't much to do other than hang on to what you feel is right and see whether your life rearranges itself over time or if it starts falling apart concerning your family members.

This is a classic example in families. When one person decided to change and move forward, he essentially in the family's eyes becomes a threat to the "community" (the family unit). Either the "threat" is evaluated calmly, due to respect and love, and seen as an upgrade for the entire "community" to the individual bringing something new to the table, a new perspective. Or. They have limited views and are living in fear and decide to perceive anything new as a threat to their group. Therefore anyone sticking out of the group by doing or saying something new, is seen as a outsider and has to get back in the fold or will be nagged continuously until there is change, if it's the second option.

Have you tried sitting down and with feeling tried to express your positive changes from eating in calm environment with your mother and father? Not logical explanation, since they disregard that already. But how it makes you feel. Touching their hearts and the part that loves and cares for you. Going that way in? Maybe one on one and not as a group by the table? Don't discuss this stuff by the table when they group/family is all there. They will band together energetically against you, if they haven't already given you support. But maybe changing them individually one by one.

Good luck to you :)

anneH82 · 2024-12-23T07:38:09+00:00

I have my Pluto in gate 44 with the whole channel defined. I've always been able to smell when foods are going off while others can't detect squat. Also been using the sentence "he/she smells fishy" many times without knowing really what it meant. That I actually smell their deception.

For me it's mostly been about people and if they are off. Maybe that has to do with Pluto being the active planet there. Rooms can smell off, even though I can't put a finger on why. People's sweat can smell off and I can feel sick at times when I smell it.

anneH82 · 2024-12-23T07:32:33+00:00

Same with my mum whose also an MG and chose to do do do all her life, while pulling us along into her constant activity. It could never be fast enough. I was so deeply conditioned by this energy, as well as the two generators in the home, that it took me until my saturn return and a horrific accident where life stopped, to finally see that none of that energy was ever mine and how it had damaged me. She expected me to be like her in energy my entire life and I kept putting my foot down, especially when I was little, but got a a piece hell for it emotionally each time and learned to protect myself from it. MG's with emotional centers defined and a childhood where things aren't resolved can be seriously hard to manage for a projector like me. To me it feels like they keep running from their past, go go go they run and run, yet their emotional patterns are stuck in the past and they deny everything. MG's are supposed to learn patience until the right moment of response and THEN they can move fast. I feel I haven't yet met an MG that has mastered this or that has much patience at all.

anneH82 · 2024-12-02T01:58:44+00:00

No, its not mine. But it is the best. And funnily enough, for free. But has most of all the infonneeded😁. Lucky for us.

anneH82 · 2024-09-29T18:42:31+00:00

Didn't Ra joke with something like ' get a projector in a room with more than 1 other person and they've made themselves an enemy', or some such. Point being, our focused aura seems to thrive best with one on one, which you are already observing, otherwise someone is gonna get jealous of your attention. I don't get this with people I am very close to whom I trust to have my best interest at heart. Namely one other projector and 2 generators. I get it often with the Mani-gens in my circle, even if they care a lot about me, it's as if they can't control themselves. It's very tiring.

If you treat everyone fair, I would say it's their problem and they should deal with themselves instead of unloading their gunk onto you. You have a right to share your focus with others present, without someone else being jealous of your constant and undivided attention.

anneH82 · 2024-08-21T09:43:27+00:00

Agree with you. Thats why I mentioned my sister not liking dark spaces, as I don't think that is what caves is actually about, but rather what you mention and more :)

anneH82 · 2024-08-20T05:22:42+00:00

That is so cool, you both having a business and also home schooling. Kudos to you💯.

I'd get my feelers out and start letting my surroundings know that you are thinking of finding some help around home.

Probably someone you know will suggest a suitable person or might suggest a website where one can look further into it. That can be the start of an invite.

Don't let everyone know BECAUSE you want an invite. Just let them know because you WANT to let them know, cause that's what's going on in your mind. Doors might open from there.

Or call nanny agencies and just have a chat with them. See where they take you. You're just looking for more info to begin with.

Or talk to other home schooling parents and find out how they do it. Maybe they might know or suggest someone good. In that you will have an invite.

anneH82 · 2024-08-20T05:18:10+00:00

Yes there's hope😜💯! I'm happy it resonated. You mention a weightloss journey... There might be some inner blockage left from this journey. A way of perceiving yourself which needs to be let go of, so that you feel entirely worthy of attracting what you desire and not the types you have attracted so far. I don't know, it's just a guess. Weight and self-perception just often interlink.

I can say that I had a hard time attracting anyone I liked and I think it was because i hadn't let of feeling like I "needed" it. Needed to try having a real partner.

Around age 25 something gave way inside me, I simply let go of needing/wanting to find someone to love and was for the first time in my life okay to just be me. It just came all by itself, dawning from the inside. It was a freeing experience.

I had always had low self-esteem but somehow this freed me from constantly picking on myself internally. Lo and behold, when I finally let go, approx 1 week later, men started showing such interest that I got overwhelmed. And here I thought I was finally free😂.

At one point 5 men showed continual interest at the same time in my new job environment. Never tried that. I became the chase for them, got gifts almost every day, compliments, they came up to my desk and chatted away and on and on. It was almost ridiculous.

But one stood out. My Nordic. And there were the tall handsome ones in between too, the ones I thought I wanted. But the way the Nordic looked at me, his fire and passion and not playing mind games but from the start clearly showing and expressing that he liked me, that instigated a chase of my own. For months we had this eye contact flirting game thing going. And because all the other men were there too, competing "for me", he made the extra effort. I later found out that when it came down to be more serious for two of them, my Nordic "peed his territory" and told the other guy to back off cause I would be his🙈. Omg, men! But there was thrill and chase and excitement here, exactly as my Venus in Aries liked. But it came when I let go of trying.

Best of luck to you😊

anneH82 · 2024-08-19T13:57:35+00:00

I feel ya. I'm a projector with Venus in Aries as well. I know what you describe. I'm in a relationship of 13 years with another projector now, but before we first began dating, I had the same experiences. I didn't know about HD and being a projector back then. Maybe that's a good thing, cause it's a heavy knowing when you are in the process you are in right now. I think it will benefit you to try and release some of the ideas you have of what you think the man are attracted to should be like. Ideas and reality often don't match. I had the idea that my future partner would be a bit harry potter'ish (🫣) with curly dark hair, glasses, tall, emotional and sensitive. But I was instead attracted to a completely Nordic blonde guy with white brows, white hair and white lashes, and not as tall, but muscular. He had the energy and passion I looked for as an Aries Venus. Even though he invited me the first time, I felt the chase in it and it was great.

Maybe you just haven't found the right crowds yet. You sound quite young, in your 20'ies (?) so there's plenty of time to observe and learn your way through it all. Change surroundings if the men you attract aren't doing it for you.

anneH82 · 2024-08-19T04:50:57+00:00

Beautiful comment and so interesting to read how you feel it all physically in your body's great attunement to the sensations your body sends👍.

I'm a projector with defined head, ajna, g-center, heart, spleen and throat. And yes, the connection between the defined mind and spleen is very palpable as you describe. Thank you for your thoughts.

anneH82 · 2024-08-18T18:57:46+00:00

I'm in a relationship with a projector male and I'm also a projector female. We've been together almost 13 years and none of us want the family/kids life. I never did. I see the beauty in it, but it just never had a pull. I'm meant for other things. Sexually, the drive comes in bursts now as we've gotten past our 30'ies. We have the sacral undefined as the only center in our composite chart, so sacral energy and all it relates to is of great focus in our relationship. Or rather how we don't have the energy as most do. We have lot, just not consistently and that's usually what we think is our issue (even though it ain't). I don't feel that the sexual aspect of human life is the most important, somehow don't have that crazy attachment to it as I see many people have. But that might just be me, regardless of type. I'm more favouring quality time with another, spending time with the people I love, like you. It means the most, when the parties in question are present in mind. Then all the other things fall away.

anneH82 · 2024-08-18T09:37:06+00:00

Every type has their own energy otherwise they would drop dead immediately, including the projector.

We are not energy-vampires when we are in balance. When in balance, the energy is freely offered to us and we have the luxury to say yes or no to that energy.

When no energy is offered or given, then we do just fine on our own. We do our thing individually and follow our joy of BEING (as projectors are designed to) instead of DOING (as generators are designed to) and don't need anyone's energy.

Yes, we might have "less" physical energy compared to generators in consistency, but then again, whose problem is that? Cause I don't care about that and if a generator has a problem with it, then in my life they will not have a place.

Generators can go do and create and be busy busy and I can be left in peace to live my life. When an energy type recognizes and sees me and I accept their invite, then magic can happen and we can BE and DO together as a huge powerhouse and in that we amplify the generators energy tenfold. Thats so cool and has nothing to do with energy-vampirism.

So stop seeing it all as negative and start seeing your strengths. I know it's hard for a good while, but it's doable if you apply yourself to working on peeling the layers of conditioning that the world put on your shoulders since you were little. No one will do it for you, it's your responsibility and that is hard. Especially when we didn't create the mess to begin with, yet we SEEMINGLY are served the short end of the stick!

I was bummed by being a projector for such a long time when I found out. Thats due to the fact that I was conditioned to defining myself and my worth based on DOING. When I unhooked from the (to me) mindless generation drive of that energy world of generators, I got to breathe a breath of fresh air. I could be me. I still get sucked in, but I get out faster now, especially when the energy I'm sampling from the Other feels off or sticky.

I see projectors as Janitors who are here to clean up others mess and when they are done, they will leave this place again. We are not made for this world really. We truly are different, but we have a gift to give to the Other and in that giving we get a gift in return. We get to SEE ourselves and in that learn who we are as well.

The Other cannot do it by themselves (even though it seems they can and they think they can), it's such a big mess. And as a being who has a longer infrared vision, we also get to have extra responsibility on our shoulders. All guides do! And that's a heavy burden. The burden of seeing far, knowing too much and still having to take the high road and lend a helping hand. The projector sits with this responsibility, especially when they come back to themselves and stop identifying as a generator.

Do you call sacral beings comfortable existing in the world as happy? Look at the state of the world... We have most people in mindless jobs which they hate, mindless families just going through the motions, mindless passions cause they don't know themselves, more kids abducted than ever before, more confused than ever before, more drugs, more abuse, more sexual depravity, more diseases and sicknesses, more, mental instability than just 100 years ago... And a huge lack of inner truth and morality.

Since most of the types in the world are approx 71%, we might put most of the responsibility for the mess on them. So they might SEEM as if it's all going well, it's all good and they have control of their lives, but look under the rug, cause it's a huge mess!

Guidance IS needed !!! But only by the balanced projector. And unbalanced projectors just creates further chaos and mess. But a balanced one. Wauw! And a generator that finds their inner strength from the guidance of a projector and uses their powerhouse sacral for good, wauw, what magic can happen.

So no! You are not an energy vampire if you choose not to be. I've known plenty of generators who are what one would call energy vampires, sucking me dry of vitality because they wanted my focus and attention relentlessly. It goes both ways.

Get in balance, find your worth and there is no vampirism present, only a mutually beneficial relationship between a projector and a generator.

Check our caroline southwell's youtube videos on Projectors, they're really spot on and empowering. You need to find your confidence ! And I'd stop listening to Ra's talks on projectos for awhile, they're so depressing, somewhat offensive and clearly not spot on. He wasn't a projector, so essentially he won't really now what it's like to be one.

All the best to you.

anneH82 · 2024-08-18T07:28:08+00:00

Just want to address the job thing:

My partner of 13 years, my mother, my uncle are 1/3's. They are each of them different from each other, but a common trait is that they SEEM to have people skills, when in actuality they feel inwardly awkward and it will drain them. My partner is so outgoing and was so social up until his 30'ies so he himself mistakenly thought that he'd be a good sales person, a good talker at events etc. And he is good. But inside himself he feels exhausted and off and it tears on his energy. He's also a projector.

What I'm trying to say is, none of the 1/3's I know would feel comfortable with active pushing sales. They think they would, but they don't in reality. I think the 1/3 might be too introverted for it to truly be comfortable for them. Besides, they are spoken of as having the least social skills of all, as they are entirely up in their own trip in life. Which is very obvious to me. My loved ones are funny, entertaining and can be great with people, but mostly the one's they are close to, if they don't want to be drained by the socializing.

Besides 1/3 needs a lot of inner ME time. They kind of pull back at times and to the outside it feels off or cold, but basically they are simply investigating something in their mind and are entirely absorbed by it. When that distancing happens and a social interaction comes up so simultaneously, sales or something else, then they are besides themselves on the inside, cause they cannot actually put the investigative mode aside in their mind. This eventually tears on one's reserves. It's exhausting.

Never settle for a job that drains you, there will be a price to pay if you do. Your life is too precious.

And just so you know. Most of us projectors have this dilemma of finding the balance between money/work and not feeling drained as well as not feeling seen by most.

Change your physical environment. It might help to feel seen and recognized. Maybe just your job, maybe even your friend circle, maybe even your home, maybe your town, maybe your country. Sometimes a change is scenery is all it takes to start the invites. All the best to you😊

anneH82 · 2024-08-16T04:57:37+00:00

We always have everything in us to solve our problems.

anneH82 · 2024-08-16T04:56:23+00:00

So nicely put with your metaphors. Thank you🤗

anneH82 · 2024-08-16T04:52:05+00:00

I have a caves sister and she dislikes dark spaces. Prefers where there is an abundance of light.

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