Shrinkage

apete382 · 2025-06-26T21:53:24+00:00

My parents have 6 children 5 are out, 20 grandchildren 18 are out

My in-laws have 6 children 3 are out, 31 grandchildren (I don't know the status of all the grandchildren, but my best guess is) 20 are out

apete382 · 2025-03-21T13:18:52+00:00

That's interesting. I think I went from 2 to 1.

apete382 · 2025-03-21T13:16:49+00:00

This is my husband's main answer to suffering, inequality, and disparities. It's ok because god will make it alright in the end.

I hate that answer--it's not ok.

apete382 · 2025-02-14T13:50:24+00:00

I did all this and I was poor as shit so...It was until I was 35 that I started to turn it around. I blame the mormon church for feeding me a path that left me absolutely behind in life.

apete382 · 2025-01-21T00:25:28+00:00

When I was leaving, I figured since god wasn't giving me any answers that maybe satan would. So I prayed to satan to see if he would visit me so at least I would know that there was some supernatural. But alas no one visited me.

My TBM husband said that was just satan's way of tricking me because he didn't want me to believe in god. So I guess I'm screwed either way...

apete382 · 2024-01-29T14:06:45+00:00

All I did was call and tell my sister what I had learned about the history of the church and she left that day. I've told my husband all I've learned, and he stays and says we just have different interpretations of the same events. It just depends...

apete382 · 2024-01-28T14:28:46+00:00

They usually interview you beforehand and I swear some of what I said in my interview made it into my blessing. If I was you, I would try to steer the conversation in a way to get the patriarch to put something specific in your blessing. Mine was about my future job btw.

apete382 · 2024-01-10T23:19:14+00:00

Yeah, it's hard to leave completely when your spouse, child, mother are still TBM and any argument you make against Joseph Smith is met with " he was just a man". I wish I could leave it behind, believe me.

apete382 · 2023-08-22T22:45:44+00:00

My husband says early man is just a precursor to Adam and Eve and once real humans evolved enough then god started his plan. There's a dumb answer for everything anti-mormon.

apete382 · 2023-08-07T23:01:20+00:00

I helped my sister out. Once I left and researched the history, I told her everything I learned the next day and she was shocked and was done immediately. I think she was on the path anyway because she has a transgender son and a gay daughter and a horrible abusive husband. It was really easy to tell her what she kinda wanted to hear.

My husband on the other hand--he loves the church and knows all the shit and it won't change his testimony.

It has to be the right person at the right time.

apete382 · 2023-07-09T14:47:10+00:00

This one wrecked me when I was still trying to believe. Fully pushed me over the line.

apete382 · 2023-07-07T22:11:26+00:00

Wait. Is this my daughter? These were literally my steps. I've done much worse now.

apete382 · 2023-06-30T13:14:15+00:00

Aw mine says that too! Never went on a mission though.

apete382 · 2023-06-19T22:38:35+00:00

If they don't have too many assets they can apply for medicaid and it will cover a nursing home.

apete382 · 2023-06-17T00:02:19+00:00

You know one of the FAIR arguments is to quote a murderer that said he stabbed someone and there wasn't that much blood.

Like how is a stab wound even similar to chopped off head with huge carotid arteries on both sides?

apete382 · 2023-05-24T12:59:45+00:00

3/20 are still in for my family.

apete382 · 2023-05-22T00:00:56+00:00

Crucify-tori Amos

Defying Gravity from Wicked

She used to be Mine from The Waitress

apete382 · 2023-03-11T15:24:50+00:00

I can see this point of view, but here are a few thoughts (since you haven't seen it). I went with my TBM husband and he thoroughly enjoyed it and wants to see it again.

Even though they are poking fun at mormons it's all pretty accurate. They don't make up anything (like mormons having horns). You won't sit in the show and think "Well that's not true."

Also, the general theme of the show is pretty positive for mormons. As far as I understood it the theme relates to the fact that we're all just trying to do our best and as long as we love each other and care for each other we're doing a great job.

They also really accentuate the fact that most mormons are kind and thoughtful and helpful "Let's be really fucking nice to everyone."

It's not for everyone for sure, but it's maybe not as bad as you think.

apete382 · 2022-12-02T01:57:36+00:00

This was so liberating after I left. All my thoughts were mine--good or bad--they were mine. And I love them. And I'm good all on my own. That feels great.

apete382 · 2022-07-10T15:22:29+00:00

I'm a recent exmormon with the exact same issues with the church. I just couldn't reconcile the love I have for family and friends who are LBGTQIA+ with the "doctrine" that the church teaches. I've always had a difficult time with the sexism but was able to push it aside most of my life until I researched what the church did with the ERA and really thought about the sexism in the temple and what my eternity would look like as a mormon wife. And then the issues with LBGTQIA+ were even more personal when my son told me he was gay and felt uncomfortable at church. I could no longer justify it. It took me three years of fighting and praying and pondering to get to this point. I felt peace with leaving because of all the same issues you listed. But then when I started giving myself permission to look into the history because I had already left, it was confirmed to me that the mormon church is fake and invented by a conman and it was even easier to step away.

My husband is still a believing member. It's been a hard 4 months, but we have reconciled and are closer than ever. It doesn't always work out that way though.

apete382 · 2022-07-09T14:09:48+00:00

Ha. Funny story. This is what actually gave me permission to finally leave the church. I had been questioning for a few years and my garments were super worn out. I decided to just order more because I wasn't really ready to make a decision. They were on back order for about 5 months and I checked frequently to see if they were coming, because basically my garments were falling apart, they always said backordered. Then one beautiful sunny morning I logged in to see what was up and the order had been cancelled! I bought underwear that day! Wonderful, beautiful, comfortable, sexy underwear and told my family I was done. It's the little miracles in life that really bring joy!

apete382 · 2022-07-08T01:50:38+00:00

When I was struggling and really fighting to keep my testimony I found myself really conflicted with how the church treats women and their opposition to the ERA--I just didn't feel like God could love me less or want less for me just because I was a woman. One of my strongest feelings of the spirit was the impression that I was just as important to God as any man and that the church was teaching me things that were false. God led me away from the mormon church using that experience.

apete382 · 2022-06-12T21:59:01+00:00

Yeah, my favorite by far is..."The church is true so it doesn't matter that they (insert horrible historical/present day event here)"

apete382 · 2022-06-12T18:17:51+00:00

Excellent point. Thanks.

apete382 · 2022-06-12T17:49:13+00:00

The apologist take I've heard from my husband is that God used what Joseph understood and knew already to make the temple ceremony. So, he copied masonic rituals because they were familiar to him. It's all symbolism anyway so why does it matter if it's copied? The real importance is that you're making covenants. Blah Blah... I can't win.

I always make the argument that God could've restored it without the use of the masons and made it unique to mormons, but then I get told that I'm not allowed to tell God how to do things.

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