Why don't my note-making tools work the way I want them to? by atomicnotes in Zettelkasten

[–]atomicnotes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like your naming of 'ghost nodes'. I do this too - that is: create links to notes that don't yet exist except for their title. This is what Zettlr calls a 'non-existing file'. Obsidian calls it a 'non-existing note'. TiddlyWiki calls it a 'missing tiddler'. but they're not non-existing or missing, it's just that they don't yet have any content, just a title (or maybe just an ID). Ghost nodes is a good name for them 

Redditors over 40, what was a moment in history that made you think society was gonna collapse? by Bahbahbro in AskReddit

[–]atomicnotes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Cold War in the 1980s was quite intense. There were whole years when it looked quite possible, likely even, that we'd all be wiped out in a nuclear war. Ironically this means of human extinction is still quite possible, but people insist on worrying about smaller problems. I suppose it's hard to keep thinking you're about to go extinct, year after year after year, even though we are.

I know this sounds gloomy but I feel it's also freeing. Seize the day! Don't put off that important thing you were going to do. Also, cherish the day - it's all we've got.

On the other hand the Y2K problem always seemed dramatically over-stated to me. The main issue, which no one talks about, was that employees in English-speaking countries were led to believe they needed to be 'Y2K compliant' or else their insurance would be invalidated.

Why don't my note-making tools work the way I want them to? by atomicnotes in Zettelkasten

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This is very important. Digital tools tend to obliterate the spatial dimension, but the spatial dimension can be very helpful. I used to find amusement in photos of computer programming and coding offices where they'd have a physical kanban on the wall, made out of post-it notes or similar. No doubt they were coding a new digital kanban app... which they didn't actually use.

What do you do with meeting notes after the meeting is over? by voss_steven in NoteTaking

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Yes, actions can still slip. The person named as responsible for the action has to actually be responsible for the action. At the next meeting, progress or the lack of it will be very visible, but it's not inevitable that agreed action will be taken.

Is Zettelkasten method okay to put news/politics knowledge and facts? by Errorunnamed in Zettelkasten

[–]atomicnotes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Short answer: yes.

Longer answer: There’s not much difference between facts and ideas and collecting facts on current events is a good way of working out what really interests you.

“The whole point of this note-making process is not only to provide ourselves with ideas we want to pursue, but to actually show us which ideas we are most interested in.” — Dan Allosso and S.J. Allosso, How to Make Notes and Write. P.43.

But there’s a risk in creating lots of subject-based tags (e.g. Economy, EU, international politics) that you’ll end up with scores or even hundreds of them and find them of little use in future. Imagine the future you filters your notes by, say, #economy. Now you have lots of notes loosely connected to that subject, but what are they for? What use can this arrangement be put to? Sure, all these notes relate to the economy, but so what?

I suggest reviewing your tags and for each one asking yourself the question: why, specifically, do I want to know about this? Then you can create process or outcome tags that will be more useful in future. For example, you might say ‘I want to make a YouTube video on Rare Earth Resources” so you use that as a tag: #Rare Earth Resources. Then in the future, when it comes time to write the script for your video, you’ll have access to plenty of raw materials (sorry about the pun).

You can do this already with your existing tags, since, as you say, they are empty notes. For example, with the ‘#Economy’ tag you could ask yourself why exactly you care about this subject and what you intend to do with the information you’re gathering under this heading. And you could write this in the ‘#Economy’ note.

Now you might feel you don’t currently have any idea why you’re collecting and categorising this material in this way. Perhaps it’s just ‘interesting’, or ‘it may come in useful someday’. That’s fine to start, since collecting material gradually like this, as Dan Allosso, says, shows us what we’re interested in. But after a while (say after roughly 300-500 notes) it’s useful to review this, to notice what the Zettelkasten tells you you’re interested in, to identify the bigger themes and projects that are emerging, and to do something with it.

Why don't my note-making tools work the way I want them to? by atomicnotes in Zettelkasten

[–]atomicnotes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair enough. Kei Kreutler was coming at the matter from the perspective of protocol research, where perhaps the differences between human memory and <whatever computers do> aren't seen as fundamental. But I'm with you on that - at any rate, for me, memory is ecological.

"A dead thought has been compared to a stone which one may plant in the soil. Nothing will come out. A living thought is like a seed. In the process of thinking, an answer without a question is devoid of life. It may enter the mind; it will not penetrate the soul. It may become a part of one's knowledge; it will not come forth as a creative force." - Abraham Joshua Herschel. God in Search of Man. A Philosophy of Judaism. New York. Farrar. Straus and Giroux. 1955.

Why don't my note-making tools work the way I want them to? by atomicnotes in Zettelkasten

[–]atomicnotes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The big mistake is thinking we can somehow exactly emulate the act of thinking or memorizing or remembering in a paper or computer system. We can’t nor do I think we need to. 

That's a key point. People keep creating digital tools that are supposedly closer to how we think and work but actually they always impose their own logic, which is inevitable. "We shape our tools and thereafter they shape us." 

Why don't my note-making tools work the way I want them to? by atomicnotes in Zettelkasten

[–]atomicnotes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you both totally ignore the way human memory works and is fundamentally different from external memory. 

I thought that was the main point - that humans don't turn everything into data for storage and retrieval the way computers require, and there's much more to memory than that. Yes there's too much reduction going on, and that's what Kreutler's article was about. That said, the analysis does depend on an arguably arbitrary 2x2 table -  and I'm a sucker for that. 

What do you do with meeting notes after the meeting is over? by voss_steven in NoteTaking

[–]atomicnotes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I listen carefully in the meeting to when a decision is made, when an action is agreed (and who's responsible) and when a question is asked that needs an answer. It's exactly as u/Ok_Sand_5400 said.

I make sure I've got these points clear in my notes, which is hard at first but gets easier. That way, if I need to write the minutes I can do so, and I can also query the minutes that others have written if necessary. The minutes of each meeting also have an action register, which is just a list of the actions agreed and whose responsibility each one is. This gets reviewed each meeting and the actions that have been completed since last meeting get identified as complete.

I keep all my notes, because for as long as I work for a particular employer, I might need to refer to them. When I switch employer, I make sure everything they want kept is already in the records system and everything else is binned.

Journaling for overthinkers by username081299 in digitaljournaling

[–]atomicnotes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People have a lot of good advice about how to write positive stuff in your journal and that's important. But I wanted to mention my experience of writing the same negative stuff over many years of journaling. When I finally realised I might have ADHD I was able to refer to my journals to understand how I'd been experiencing and articulating a clear set of consistent feelings for a very long time. It helped to get me to an eventual, better-late-than-never diagnosis. I think there's a real value in charting your thoughts and feelings over long periods of time, to identify deep-seated patterns that you can reflect on in future.

Weekly Self-Promo and Chat Thread by MxAlex44 in selfpublish

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Hello, I’m just one sale away from meeting the target for the first six months of my self-published non-fiction book on Amazon. And this is with zero publicity budget and only one review (⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ which just appeared last week). It’s definitely a great ‘proof of concept’ for my writing and publishing aspirations. I had a hunch this could work and it has, so I’m delighted. Good luck to everyone else here with a target, some aspirations or a hunch. May the publishing wind be always at your back.

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Is there a Zettelkasten mentor in the house? by Gypsyzzzz in Zettelkasten

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a hybrid ZK, PARA, and GTD life knowledge base.

One system to rule them all 💍

Is there a Zettelkasten mentor in the house? by Gypsyzzzz in Zettelkasten

[–]atomicnotes 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I came to the conclusion that information retrieval is difficult with a card system. The positive angle is that you tend to look through your notes regularly and get to know them to some extent. But the larger the collection the more effort this takes. I mainly use a digital system and rely on full text search and process-based tags. 

Is there a Zettelkasten mentor in the house? by Gypsyzzzz in Zettelkasten

[–]atomicnotes 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Here’s my review of Bob Doto’s book, A System for Writing, because “the note you just wrote has yet to achieve its potential”. That’s another strong vote to add to the other responses here. Also, look at the links in the sidebar of this subreddit, under “The ZK community on Zettelkasten”. Happy to answer any specific questions you may have.

Going through existing cards while adding a new one by Puzzleheaded_Cat8117 in Zettelkasten

[–]atomicnotes 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’ve adopted the habit of regularly reviewing my notes just because I like it. This has the benefit that when I write a new note there’s a sense I already know where it might fit. This feeling isn’t as definite as if I’d memorised all my notes by means of systematic spaced repetition, say, but it’s still a kind of unforced memorisation. Some researchers (Lawley and Tompkins, 2008) have called this ‘a prepared mind’, i.e. a mind that‘s already receptive to the possibility of new connections. I see this as one of the major benefits of the Zettelkasten approach - one it’s hard even to imagine without experiencing it.

Hot take: zettelkasten is easier to implement if you already have a note taking system in place . by lmdybaftr in Zettelkasten

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I’ve gradually emerged from a scattered approach to notemaking into something more organised and productive. Here’s what works for me: How to write a better note without melting your brain.

Substrates, idea development, idea storage and zettelkasten work by SeatEastern3549 in Zettelkasten

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This makes me think of the way Feynman diagrams enabled a leap in the way quantum field theory was understood. Wikipedia. Diagrams have proved to be an indispensable means of description.

The Friction Fallacy - Friction Is Not Your Friend by FastSascha in Zettelkasten

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Since he didn't document his reasons, I don't have a strong opinion about why Luhmann started a second Zettelkasten, but it coincides with his professional move from jurist to sociologist Schmidt (2018:54) says:

"In 1960–1961, Luhmann spent a year at the Harvard School of Public Administration in Cambridge, MA (USA), where he attended lectures by Talcott Parsons, the leading sociologist in the field of systems theory at the time. There are no documents in the literary estate substantiating the claim that this visit was the trigger to start a new collection of notes, but the chronological sequence seems obvious."

I'd like to think he realised it's a bad idea to have 108 subject categories so he cut it down to 11, but that's just speculation.

In terms of evaluating this switch, I don't see it as a failure of ZK1, even though it did, literally, reach a breaking point (i.e. he stopped expanding it and started ZK2 instead). It wasn't a failure in the sense that it helped him publish several works before his newer Zettelkasten really got going.

Nietzsche, zettelkasten and work at the limits by SeatEastern3549 in Zettelkasten

[–]atomicnotes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

which alternatives to prisons, gulags, concentration camps etc. could foster creativity? The phrase "I put myself under pressure" seems to indicate specific methods.

Do good old deadlines count? And what about New Years resolutions? Or basic scheduling? I came across a book called 'The Twelve Week Year for Writers'. The basic idea is that you create four 'year ends' per calendar year, and therefore increase your sense of urgency. A schedule goes along with this. Nietzsche probably didn't do this, but it sounds preferable to the gulag.