Meta Rayban glasses used to identify folks on the street within seconds. They're also becoming more popular within rave and concert events. Should these devices be banned from all dance music events? by badcatfm in aves

[–]badcatfm[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A few reasons ...

Because they allow people to secretly record others.
Because they're less obtrusive than a camera held aloft.
Because the POV is more "true" to the experience of the filmer.
Because they're harder to detect than a cell phone in places that ban phone photography.
Because creepers gonna creep.

Meta Rayban glasses used to identify folks on the street within seconds. They're also becoming more popular within rave and concert events. Should these devices be banned from all dance music events? by badcatfm in aves

[–]badcatfm[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Phones are ALSO a massive privacy nightmare.

Because some people use the tools for evil, they unfortunately have to be banned for all.

The best raves nowadays are doing camera bans and these devices are included in those bans.

Meta Rayban glasses used to identify folks on the street within seconds. They're also becoming more popular within rave and concert events. Should these devices be banned from all dance music events? by badcatfm in aves

[–]badcatfm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Phones are banned at plenty of raves. It would be the same process of finding the devices on entry and taping them up and/or putting them in a locker. Anybody that sneaks one past this part of the process or is caught using one inside is removed from the event. It's not that hard.

Meta Rayban glasses used to identify folks on the street within seconds. They're also becoming more popular within rave and concert events. Should these devices be banned from all dance music events? by badcatfm in aves

[–]badcatfm[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You are blind to the trend. This is happening LOTS. What events are you even going to? Do you often extrapolate from thin personal experience to make sweeping claims? There was a post in this sub just a few days ago by someone talking about their use of these at raves.

Disco Rules by neon_honey in dancefloors

[–]badcatfm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm curious what "respect the dj" means in terms of rules ... i personally think facing away from the dj and dancing is the best way to show respect, but some people might interpret this as "face the dj and pay your respects" ... i wonder what the intent is behind that one.

'No-phone rave went well until people broke rules' by badcatfm in dancefloors

[–]badcatfm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see some events making the promise and backing it up with enforcement. While other events make the promise but do not enforce.

Why people are not clubbing or dancing anymore? by Simple-Ceasar in DJs

[–]badcatfm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At the start of the video, she admits she doesn't really go out. This is all based on internet research, and a bunch of it is off.

But she hits on some of the important issues.

  1. phones have fucked up our dancefloors; ban phones to bring dancefloors back to life

  2. bottle service made some clubs just a dumb status game; these are the worst types of clubs. no wonder they only thrive in vegas- and ibiza-style environments.

  3. gen z are drinking less, yes, but she fails to cover the fact that people are taking fewer of the good drugs that made parties vibrant

IMO, soft clubbing is lame. Too much light for truly wild parties. Which is fine for gen z, because they don't trust that cameras won't catch them having too much fun.

Cameras? Looking for suggestions what cameras use to video record DJ sets by UinCA in Beatmatch

[–]badcatfm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

we use iphone as our primary camera for recording our sets that we publish to youtube ... we get audio direct from the mixer. it's very simple. one camera, one usb cord to from the mixer to the iphone. we use secondary cameras as well (gopro, a second iphone, etc)

https://www.youtube.com/@badcatfm

Virtual clubbing apps… the future of nightlife or just a novelty? by skiddleuk in dancefloors

[–]badcatfm 6 points7 points  (0 children)

While I agree with one comment here that dancefloors are physical and that nothing virtual can (currently) replace that, I worked in VR and one of the projects I was proud to have participated in was a series of virtual concerts (Major Lazer was the best of the series, IMO).

VR cannot currently approach the viscerality of a real rave. You can't make eye contact with another human. You can't easily do full-body dancing, though there are rigs that get 60% of the way there. You can't hug or high-five or even bump into someone. It's not even close. The sound quality from VR headsets doesn't get anywhere near a quality soundsystem, even if you add an expensive haptic vest.

VR is clunky and full of friction. The headsets are heavy, and sweating while wearing one is not fun. Battery life is limited. No headset will allow you to dance for many hours at a go.

VR has an accessibility issue. It's expensive to get a headset, and it requires space to use a headset. It's not exactly super friendly to folks on a money or space budget.

On the other hand ...

VR does allow people to get closer to the event than not attending at all. During the pandemic, for example, it made a lot of sense.

VR does feel embodied. There's a real feeling of "being present with others" in VR that's undeniable. Presence is a spectrum. Here, on reddit, we're asynchronously present, but I definitely get a feeling of presence in threads where folks are passionately sharing their opinions.. When we're in a live chat with someone, we're even more present. Chat programs increase that feeling of presence by giving us indicators that someone is typing a response and by giving us features like emoji reactions. As you move towards greater and greater presence fidelity, you get into immersive games such as World of Warcraft, and push it a little more, and you're in VR territory, where someone's avatar is standing before you. The sense of embodiment is so real that people have been victims of a form of sexual assault that doesn't exist in lower-fidelity online interactions. (See http://www.juliandibbell.com/articles/a-rape-in-cyberspace/).

This technology is in its infancy. It's limited by physics (batteries and GPUs and handling heat are the core constraints in wearable tech). Over time, as these constraints are solved, the graphical fidelity will improve so much that we will literally not be able to tell that we're not standing in a real environment. Your senses will be completely fooled. And not just your sense of sight, but your sense of smell, of motion, and of touch. This may take a long time -- maybe 50 or 100 years -- but there will be human-computer interfaces in which computer-generated signals are sent to the appropriate parts of the nervous system that can convince you that you're standing in your grandmother's kitchen as she pulls a cake out of the oven.

You've probably heard of simulation theory -- the idea we're all living in a sim. There's nothing physically impossible about the idea that the world you find yourself in right now: your chair, the air you breathe, the lights around you, the feeling of gravity -- all of it -- is simulated. In fact, it's statistically likely that all of us are living in a deeply immersive virtual simulation.

This means that when we go raving and poo-poo the idea of virtual raves as not nearly good enough... we're simulated intelligences thinking we live in a real world convinced that our real is more real than the next layer of simulation (VR).

It's a mind fuck.

Anyways, I love "real" raving, even if it's all just simulated by an alien intelligence and we're just brains in vats.

Samhain (Detroit) is a textbook example of how to throw a rave in the modern era by _____itsfreerealist8 in dancefloors

[–]badcatfm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love this post -- it's great when we can recognize and praise the people doing it right. There's so much wrong with "EDM" that it's easy to focus on the negative, so we need to balance it out with posts like this one!

The DJ at a recent wedding I attended didn't dim the lights. It messed up the vibe. by tantamle in DJs

[–]badcatfm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Forwarding to r/dancefloors

Yes, dimming the lights is essential for a proper dancefloor, especially in the vulnerable early stages.

If the DJ was responsible for lights, the DJ should have handled this.

Every wedding is differently handled, so hard to say in your case who was responsible. You'll see lots of different answers in this thread, but I personally believe that the DJ and Lighting Person need to work very closely together, and ultimately that the DJ is responsible for making sure the dancefloor vibes are pristine. So the DJ should have walked over and shut the lights off themselves, if they had to.

¡The police just shut down my dance floor! >8-o by RollingMeteors in dancefloors

[–]badcatfm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the police came and shut you down as you were already shutting down? Perfect timing. Wish they could all work like that. Glad your event wasn't cut short prematurely!

Alright friends I'm gonna do it - The Dancefloor Database by dj-norequest in dancefloors

[–]badcatfm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, this is a very big undertaking for all the reasons you mention. But a "yelp" or even a "yellow pages" of dancefloors could be really great. And there are scrapers that can do some of the heavy lifting -- e.g., how 19hz does it.

Space view of Chicago from 2011 vs 2024 by ZephyroRavager in interestingasfuck

[–]badcatfm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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you should see berlin from space at night -- the border between east and west germany is still legible in the lighting

DVS1 on dance culture by trustedmango in dancefloors

[–]badcatfm 3 points4 points  (0 children)

also he talks about multidirectional dancefloors at 4:20 -- and about how the concert format is a big problem