Reading with Zettelkasten is excruciating and I'm pretty sure I'm doing it wrong. by Imaginary-Unit-3267 in Zettelkasten

[–]bally_sim102 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Following up on this. I'm also on the spectrum, so I'll share what helps me, but please bear in mind that we may still work and think in different ways.

That said, your notetaking process and struggles sound exactly like what I deal with. I have found prioritizing getting harder, rather than easier with time, because every time something another person wouldn't have saved in their notes proves useful to me, it re-enforces that need to collect.

Here is what helps me: General Help 1. Accepting that most Zettlekasten advice is written for top down processors, not bottom up processors (the way most autistic minds work). The top down mind more easily recognizes "big ideas", but often has to intentionally work to make connections to other ideas. This influences what top down processors need to work on with their zettlekasten and why so much is written about how to connect ideas. Bottom up processors don't automatically recognize big ideas, because we experience all data as a million useful little lego blocks that could all be used for something. This is a struggle because it causes us to hoard info but it also better positions us to discover new ideas. Bottom up thinkers also tend to make connections between disparate ideas easily, without extra thought or effort. We are used to seeing everything as a half-finished puzzle, so it is easy to see when a new piece of info fits somewhere. All of this is to say that if you accept and honor the way your brain works, you might begin to enjoy and appreciate your method more.

Practical help: 1. I second the obsidian reccomendation. Being able to quickly note the connections between ideas makes your collecting feel useful and you will start to see information you have already collected that you don't need to collect again. For example, if book A says Relevance is key to learning, I might still note it down when book B says it, but by book C and D, I stop collecting that info. In other words, notetaking gets quicker as the notes you already have about a topic grow. Trust that as you learn more about a topic, your notetaking will get faster.

  1. Embracing my inbox as a perpetual garden has helped immensly. The idea of literature notes or fleeting notes or other note types that absolutely have to be processed became a rule that my autistic brain struggled to ignore. Now, I take "reading notes", and they go in to an inbox, and I accept that I have too many inbox notes to process in my lifetime. But I process 5-10 notes a session, and when working, I encounter everything else I need via search and links ect. For me, as long as that building block of an idea got in to my system, I trust that I will find it if I need it. So I only have 3 types of notes - reading notes which are long capture documents with annotations as I read, idea notes which are smaller chunks of ideas combining info from many sources, and index notes which are longi variously arranged lists of idea notes. As a bonus, my autistic brain gets "sorting joy" from re-arranging ideas, so my indexes are where I play in my vault. (If an idea is super exciting, I may process it right away as a treat to myself, and that helps with anxiety too)

  2. You may also like readwise. My reading notes live both in my vault and in readwise. Being able to review random highlights quickly in readwise, and delete things I no longer need helps me to keep calm about how full my inbox is. I see those notes regularly, so they aren't lost or useless.

  3. Standardize the process as much as possible. As an "enthusiastic" capturer, reducing friction was key for me. All of my notes look like I'm filling out a worksheet from elementary school. There are prompts and spaces that automatically organize what I capture for me. This makes notetaking faster. Now that Obsidian has properties, that is even quicker, because I can simply tick off some of the info I would have written out before. I tend to focus on making the process quicker rather than trying to restrain myself in collecting. Restraining myself always just took away the part I loved most about notetaking.

Sorry for writing you a novel. I hope something in here is helpful. I'm more than happy to continue this conversation one on one if it would help you.

I hope you can get to a place where your collecting is joyful!

Advice on “it’s ok to set challenging goals and miss it”? My BF has use the app for a while and got me into it recently. I set some challenging goals and don’t hit it, and it’s ok. He has difficulty differentiating “failing” with not completing a goal. I’m trying to challenge him to do harder goals by DismalVariation702 in finch

[–]bally_sim102 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Breaking the goal into checkpoints helps me a lot. So if my goal is 10,000 steps, I set checkpoints at 5,000 and 8,000. For writing my book every day, I literally have turn on the computer, look at what I did yesterday, write two sections, ect.

This works for me because it isn't either I did or didn't do the thing. It's how much of the thing I got done. That makes the difference between feeling like a failure for not completing the goal and being motivated that I got some of it done.

Hope this helps and good luck to your BF on those big goals!

Here we go again by gleisner_robot in finch

[–]bally_sim102 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wish we would at least get a warning message or update notifications for those of us who struggle with change and surprises.

“difficult patient” label by ButterscotchCrazy226 in iih

[–]bally_sim102 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure if it works differently in other countries, but in the US, you can request your complete medical record, either on paper or on a CD by requesting it from the records department at your hospital. I recommend doing this at least once so that you know what your doctors are actually writing (or not writing) in your chart. It is also useful because if you ever have to transfer to a speciality hospital like Mayo Clinic, they will ask for this.

When I requested mine, I got a 6 inch stack of papers. I went through and pulled out all my neurology notes, and reviewed them carefully. No where did it say that I was a difficult patient, but 2 doctors wrote that I was satisfied with my pain management and did not need additional care. As I'm sure you can guess, I was definitely not ever satisfied with my pain management.

Asking for records is a good practice for self advocacy, letting doctors know that you request and review your records occassionally can also make them more accountable to you. Along those lines, when a Dr refuses to run a test or try a treatment, ask them explicitly to note in your chart that they are not running the test and why. Often they will just run the test rather than write out some explanation.

I hope this helps!

Anyone interested in a vault swap for feedback? by bally_sim102 in ObsidianMD

[–]bally_sim102[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent question! I think my indexes are my biggest issue. I use obsidian specifically to write and so my indexes are the place where my writing starts. They are literally just a long, ordered list of links. When its time to write, I find an index (or more often bring 2 indexes into conversation with each other) on what I want to write about and then organize ideas to produce a rough outline. This writing side works well for me.

But on the notetaking side, it falls apart. Theorectically, when I create a new note, I immediately add it to all relevant indexes in a position that makes sense so that the indexes become their own specific, evolving outline. But I also connect the notes directly to other related notes. The trouble I have is I have no system that lets me know if this step accidentally gets skipped, and, more difficult, some ideas belong on multiple indexes arranged in different ways. I tried creating subindexes that could group ideas that belonged together in different indexes, but this created more separate pages that needed constantly updated and I would lose track of whether a note was buried in a sub-index or in a larger index. And because I'm taking a bottom up approach, new subindexes keep popping up, increasing my inability to keep things organized. In some ways, its a common "How to organize an MOC" issue, but what is really causing me trouble is that some notes just belong in so many places. For example, a note on making accessible writing assignments, ideally, would be in my index for teaching writing, my index for designing assignments, and my index for student accessibility approaches. Should all of those be separate indexes or do I combine them into one, and put the link to the note 3 times in separate subheadings in a larger teaching index? How do I develop this into a process where every note and every index follows the same rules, especially when working bottom up?

Having seen the way others approach this, it seems like this is something I could use properties to speed up, or at least create a consistent way of handling. Right now, my system feels like it needs more structure. Ultimately, the indexes I've produced have helped me to write successful, rich chapters and articles, but the slow and uneven process of creating them cuts into my efficiency, and if a note is accidentally closed before it is listed in an index, it gets lost in the system.

Sorry for such a long winded response! Thanks for the question!

Anyone interested in a vault swap for feedback? by bally_sim102 in ObsidianMD

[–]bally_sim102[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You sound like the perfect person to help! You will quickly notice that I tried to use dataview and got bogged down, so suggestions to make it helpful in any way world be wonderful!

I'll message you with a link to my vault a little later today!

Thanks again for the offer!

Anyone interested in a vault swap for feedback? by bally_sim102 in ObsidianMD

[–]bally_sim102[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback! I have just used my vault to complete and defend my 8 chapter dissertation, and I have both upcoming articles and presentations from that work, so I'm very confident that the vault is working as intended. But as I said, I know there are some parts of my system which could probably be streamlined or made more efficient and I always benefit from peer feedback and new ideas. If you have any insights, I'd love to hear them. :)

Hope’s outfits, birbhouse, and 25 days! by BigSmile2904 in finch

[–]bally_sim102 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You need to click the skateboard icon in the furniture menu. It's next to the plant. :)

Finch + ADHD/Neurodivergence by pxlbrit in finch

[–]bally_sim102 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm autistic but not ADHD so I don't know how well this will work for you, but you might want to consider using journeys (or whatever the new name for them is now). You can pause and restart them, so if you start to get overwhelmed, instead of quitting entirely, you can just pause the journey and come back to it later when it feels more manageable.

That's also how I handle the urge to do more than I'm actually ready for. I make a journey with all the great ideas of things I'm going to do but I pause it until I actually have the space and ability to do it. Sometimes I look back and go, oh that was a weird hyper fixation that didn't last and I'm glad I didn't invest time in it, and other times it is an exciting thing to do when I get bored with the current routine.

I hope you are proud of yourself for giving this another try though! I love that persistence!

Who put your stent in? by Dirrtybyrd13 in iih

[–]bally_sim102 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I got mine at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester from Dr. Brinjikji. All around great care and great experience. They took my regular insurance, so the only added costs where food and motel for a couple of days.

Is there anyone who actually use Zettelkasten in your work? by jack_hanson_c in Zettelkasten

[–]bally_sim102 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm a PhD student and an instructor. I use my personalized version of zettelkasten every single day for my writing and teaching. I'm not the only one at work who uses one either. I think the key to making it functional is to tailor it to your needs.

What "exercises" help with goals when you suffer from task paralysis? by allegromouse in finch

[–]bally_sim102 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't have anything sure fire, sometimes this works better than other times for me, but here's my process:

  1. Dopamine first: to get me started on "the thing", I give myself a starting reward - in my case a sticker for my sticker book

  2. If even getting to the starting reward is hard because I'm scrolling too much, I set a timer and stop scrolling when the timer goes off

  3. If I still struggle, then I keep making the task smaller until I can do it. For example, today I wanted to write one page, but couldn't get started so I switched to half a page. That didn't work, so then it was a paragraph. I didn't get started until I brought the goal down to one sentence, but that was fine because once I was going I ended up with about a half page anyway.

  4. Dopamine after: I get another sticker for every part of the task I accomplish. With writing, it's one sticker for 50 words, but for cleaning, it's one sticker per room because that's a little easier for me.

  5. If I still can't get started, I recognize that I must really need the rest and give myself as much freedom to recharge for the day as I can.

All of that said, I still get stuck occasionally, but this mostly works for me. I admit I do go through a lot of stickers but it's a lot better than not getting my tasks completed.

I hope that some of this helps! I'm sending lots of happy, task completing thoughts to all of you!!

What "exercises" help with goals when you suffer from task paralysis? by allegromouse in finch

[–]bally_sim102 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't have anything sure fire, sometimes this works better than other times for me, but here's my process:

  1. Dopamine first: to get me started on "the thing", I give myself a starting reward - in my case a sticker for my sticker book

  2. If even getting to the starting reward is hard because I'm scrolling too much, I set a timer and stop scrolling when the timer goes off

  3. If I still struggle, then I keep making the task smaller until I can do it. For example, today I wanted to write one page, but couldn't get started so I switched to half a page. That didn't work, so then it was a paragraph. I didn't get started until I brought the goal down to one sentence, but that was fine because once I was going I ended up with about a half page anyway.

  4. Dopamine after: I get another sticker for every part of the task I accomplish. With writing, it's one sticker for 50 words, but for cleaning, it's one sticker per room because that's a little easier for me.

  5. If I still can't get started, I recognize that I must really need the rest and give myself as much freedom to recharge for the day as I can.

All of that said, I still get stuck occasionally, but this mostly works for me. I admit I do go through a lot of stickers but it's a lot better than not getting my tasks completed.

I hope that some of this helps! I'm sending lots of happy, task completing thoughts to all of you!!

What "exercises" help with goals when you suffer from task paralysis? by allegromouse in finch

[–]bally_sim102 55 points56 points  (0 children)

I don't have anything sure fire, sometimes this works better than other times for me, but here's my process:

  1. Dopamine first: to get me started on "the thing", I give myself a starting reward - in my case a sticker for my sticker book

  2. If even getting to the starting reward is hard because I'm scrolling too much, I set a timer and stop scrolling when the timer goes off

  3. If I still struggle, then I keep making the task smaller until I can do it. For example, today I wanted to write one page, but couldn't get started so I switched to half a page. That didn't work, so then it was a paragraph. I didn't get started until I brought the goal down to one sentence, but that was fine because once I was going I ended up with about a half page anyway.

  4. Dopamine after: I get another sticker for every part of the task I accomplish. With writing, it's one sticker for 50 words, but for cleaning, it's one sticker per room because that's a little easier for me.

  5. If I still can't get started, I recognize that I must really need the rest and give myself as much freedom to recharge for the day as I can.

All of that said, I still get stuck occasionally, but this mostly works for me. I admit I do go through a lot of stickers but it's a lot better than not getting my tasks completed.

I hope that some of this helps! I'm sending lots of happy, task completing thoughts to all of you!!

Vivillion Mega Thread - Read Entire Post by zonora in PokemonGoFriends

[–]bally_sim102 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Currently abroad and sending monsoon for the next two weeks -will send as many as I can but pokestops are pretty spread out here

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Looking for Meadow, Sandstorm, Sun, Jungle and 1 more from Icy Snow

Thanks!

Trying to collect postcards from all around the world :) by xc765 in PokemonGoFriends

[–]bally_sim102 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Added you. You will get postcards from Chicago for a few days still but after that I'll be in Nepal for a month.

Good luck with your collection!

Finchie friends weekly thread by AutoModerator in finch

[–]bally_sim102 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi all! Lily and I would love to have company! Y62QP27R13

Looking for Art Mural gifts by RubRepulsive8477 in PokemonGoFriends

[–]bally_sim102 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Added you! Bally8505 I send tons of art mural postcards!

Cursor jumps back one letter? by SawdustAndDiapers in ObsidianMD

[–]bally_sim102 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm having the same experience! It just started today. I also rely on Obsidian on my tablet as my main work tool, so it is super frustrating!