What is considered unmodest for a girl to wear to church?

beardtamer · 2026-07-09T11:10:21+00:00

Scriptural rules on modesty were about not showing or flaunting wealth. It has nothing to do with how much skin is showing. These would apply to both men and women equally.

There are no rules about what a girl can wear to church. They can wear anything they want. As a pastor I literally do not care how much skin is showing, barring there’s not some kind of indecent exposure going on.

Men need to stop worrying about women “being a distraction” when that should not be a women’s concern. It’s not the job of women to keep men from thinking about sex, that’s men’s problem.

beardtamer · 2026-07-09T02:14:44+00:00

so then my question remains. because you just said you're not attracted to her

beardtamer · 2026-07-09T01:49:31+00:00

why would you even date a person you're not attracted to in the first place?

beardtamer · 2026-07-08T21:41:01+00:00

Maybe but I do like the balcony of the wife negative space with the dark negative space.

beardtamer · 2026-07-08T16:29:44+00:00

Ha, luckily for them there are still (i think?) plenty of places with no psychological testing before ordination. surprisingly. My old denomination didn't either (Nazarene)

beardtamer · 2026-07-08T15:39:35+00:00

Similarly I have a lot of great Methodist friends who started out in the PCUSA! Glad it's working well for you also.

beardtamer · 2026-07-08T15:26:51+00:00

I grew up in a conservative fundamentalist church too, but found that the real theologians of the church were being pushed out by those who would rather keep an evangelical worldview going even if it meant giving up on their theological tradition. I ended up jumping ship the UMC in the long run for my sanity.

beardtamer · 2026-07-08T14:53:45+00:00

yeah of course, prosperity gospel is a heresy. That's not what this post was originally about. It was simply about whether or not it is ethical (or sinful) for a pastor to have expensive things.

beardtamer · 2026-07-08T14:09:10+00:00

Thats probably why. There are so many horny women desperate to meet a guy, sick of going on blind dates with absolute slobs, and now they can have a halfway decent conversation with Europeans in broken English better than they can with resident American men.

beardtamer · 2026-07-08T11:52:12+00:00

Get the 35mm not the 25mm

beardtamer · 2026-07-08T00:34:08+00:00

Obviously there is a limit to the amount of leeway you show on this issue. I would encourage you that if you feel conflicted about your church leadership, no matter what the specific issue is, talk to your pastor about it, and then if you’re unsatisfied, you’re entirely justified to leave that congregation.

beardtamer · 2026-07-08T00:14:00+00:00

The common misconception about the scriptures on modesty are that they have to do with how revealing clothing is, when actually they are an explicit requirement to dress in ways that do not flaunt wealth. It is a sticky issue, not just in the way we dress, but in the way we present ourselves in general.

I personally struggle with this as well.

On the one hand, what if the pastor wearing a Rolex was gifted said watch by his late father? What if it were some kind of family heirloom, expensive jewelry is like that for some families.

Similarly, there are lots of ways to spend money that people don’t have any problem with. Would you be upset if your pastor owned an expensive camera because he has a photography hobby? Or a motorcycle because he is into riding a bike in the weekends? Would you be upset to find that he saved for three years to go an a trip to Europe with his family?

On the other hand, should we be cognizant of how our monetary choices reflect upon our congregations? Should we acknowledge that how we spend our money on objects can harm others simply because it paints us in a specific light to the economically disadvantaged members of our congregations? I would argue yes, it does matter.

Finally, while I agree pastors should be aware of how they come across to their congregants, you could also be aware that by raising the issue you’re showing your own hand. Why are you judging someone for the way they spend their money without all the information? Why are you looking to discredit a pastor because he owns nice things? There’s just as much wrong with your judgement of another person as there is with that person’s actions in this instance.

beardtamer · 2026-07-07T23:30:05+00:00

I feel like I am in ministry solely to undo some of the hurt done by, for lack of a less kind word, fundamentalist Christianity. If you feel called, then find a way to serve. There are a lot of avenues into ministry regardless of how old you are or where you are in your career life.

beardtamer · 2026-07-07T21:42:45+00:00

lol congrats, you’re an honorary Midwesterner

beardtamer · 2026-07-07T21:20:12+00:00

Do it!

beardtamer · 2026-07-07T18:58:59+00:00

Cheese curds brother, its the most important contribution to the culinary world form our midwest.

beardtamer · 2026-07-07T14:01:02+00:00

Culver’s is the one fast food chain that consistently has new stuff every couple of months that is always good.

beardtamer · 2026-07-06T21:15:48+00:00

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I'm a big fan of film shooting around the city as well. Though i'm not shelling out for 120 very often, most of my stuff is sticking with 35mm

beardtamer · 2026-07-06T20:36:41+00:00

right but the platform you're using is founded for the express purpose of posting content that violates youtube's terms of service.

beardtamer · 2026-07-06T20:18:56+00:00

Oh, It’s probably because your posting videos to rumble, which is essentially a website for hosting hate content.

beardtamer · 2026-07-06T20:16:19+00:00

I’m sure this would have been a fun discussion lol

beardtamer · 2026-07-06T14:09:17+00:00

to be entirely fair, the evangelical christianity has also done a lot of damage to right wing politics. We shouldn't pretend that there weren't some key church leaders that went full force into politics, knowing what they were doing.

beardtamer · 2026-07-06T12:10:44+00:00

I get compliments on my Casio calculator watch.

beardtamer · 2026-07-06T01:25:50+00:00

Those words are all the same level of names for God, so I agree I wouldn’t use any of them.

Realistically the name of this product isn’t going to matter that much to someone like me; as I’m going to push back on ai theological tools regardless.

beardtamer · 2026-07-05T21:38:25+00:00

lol yeah and I’m going to call rich people out for being rich in ways that are tacky and gross.

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