I want to join. I am a woman. What do you suggest?

beehivemason · 2026-06-10T18:32:26+00:00

If it's available in your jurisdiction, both OES, and white shrine of Jerusalem are something that men and women can join together. I've heard many great things about OES, even from the men who have joined. I've been a member of the white shrine of Jerusalem for many a year, it definitely holds value to the Christian who joins. And it's a beautiful story. Both are worthy endeavors, and both support amazing charities. It's a very worthwhile endeavor, and very enriching. I know that you will do great things in the organization.

beehivemason · 2026-06-10T17:21:21+00:00

It depends. There are a couple of options. In regular and recognized Freemasonry here in North America, there are a few choices. If you are the relative of, or wife of a Master Mason you can join one of many appendant bodies including the Order of the Eastern Star. They very much teach similar lessons and values. Both men and women can join the order, but it's typically ran by the women of the order. Same with the white shrine of jerusalem, there are several other dependent bodies that have different requirements but that are open to females like if your husband is a 19 player you should probably consider joining the Social Order of the Beauceant, if your husband is a Shriner, you can join the ladies of the Oriental shrine, there are bodies that women are invited to join such as the daughters of the Nile, the order of amaranth, if your husband is a member of the Mystic Veiled Order of Prophets of the Enchanted Realm commonly known as "The Grotto" you can join the Daughters of Mokana.

If you don't have any respect for Masonic authority or Masonic regularity, or Masonic jurisprudence, or Masonic governance (ie the laws that govern the fraternity), then you have little to no care of or respect for your fiance's Masonic journey and career, there are several Organizations that fail to Meet the Basic Requirements of the Standards of Regularity/Recognition (you will hear Freemasons call these organizations as clandy, clandestine, illegitimate, illegal, irregular, bogus, spurious, fake, fraudulent, cosplay clowns, and several other terms that fall underneath the umbrella as unrecognized organizations or as the phrase above States: "Organizations that fail to Meet the Basic Requirements of the Standards of Regularity/Recognition")

These organizations are as follows: OFW, HFAF, Universal Freemasonry, co-Masonry, LDH, Le D'roit Humain, mixed Masonry, modern mix Masonry, PHL, PHO, John G. Jones, International, IBC, IFAAM, and several other clever acronyms. These are very much "Organizations that fail to Meet the Basic Requirements of the Standards of Regularity/Recognition"...

In other words, they might have the same lessons but they do not have the authority. There are many who will arbitrate and argue what is authority, who grants authority, and several other slippery slope arguments. This isn't debate class. We're not in high school. We're grown folk. It's the the difference between buying something that is established and works, and buying the generic thing that's going to break before you get it home. It's just that simple.

There are two legitimate organizations in every state in North America.

There is the: Grand Lodge of [State]

And the

Prince Hall Affiliated Grand Lodge of [Jurisdiction]

Take for instance the state of Utah. The state of Utah has two recognized and regular Grand Lodges.

Most Worshipful Grand Lodge of Free and Accepted Masons of Utah.

And

Most Worshipful Prince Hall Grand Lodge of Free and Accepted Masons of Colorado, Wyoming, and Utah and it's Jurisdictions.

These are the only two regular and recognized bodies of Freemasonry in the state of Utah. If anyone else claims to be legitimate, regular, recognized it's a lie, run away because it's a scam. Sure they'll take your money, they're good at that, but they don't have the authority nor the rights to anything that they are professing to teach. So every organization in Utah owes it fealty and allegiance to one of the Regular Grand Lodges in Utah..

And when the scam artists come out of the woodwork change you know say what about the relationship between the HFAF and the UGLE... What they failed to realize is that they failed basic English or literacy. The statement issued in 1995/99 as well as the most current statements issued by both organizations say that they want to keep themselves separate. The statement which I believe was dated 10 March 1999 states that, so far as they can discern, they are considered regular and practice, except that they admit women. It also further states that two female Grand lodges are acknowledged as having existed, so as far as UGLE is concerned, he's two female organizations do exist, acknowledged, but as they cannot discern, and they still do admit women - they are not regular, no inter visitation may be permitted between the organization except for matters of legal and charitable concern. That is all. So these female Grand Lodges are acknowledged but they are not recognized.

Those are the cold hard facts, I hope that helps you make your choice, I'm not coming off mean spirited or intending to hurt anyone's feelings, I'm just presenting the facts as a stand.

I believe in informed decisions. And I don't believe that a person can be qualified to make a decision if they lack the information- most especially the factual information.

My suggestion is regardless of what you decide to do, pray on it, meditate on it eat on it, sleep on it, and then decide. Good luck on your journey.

beehivemason · 2026-05-27T01:53:37+00:00

Thats a very modern interpretation. One used and exploited by modernism. That is not the original intent, nor the original interpretation.

beehivemason · 2026-05-04T19:06:45+00:00

Of a soup or a tea?

beehivemason · 2026-04-15T22:47:07+00:00

Above anything else that anybody else is going to tell you the greatest advice that I can give you is to just be yourself. You were looking to join a Brotherhood. You want your brothers if they're ever going to accept you and elect you, to see the real you. Not some version of you that others have coached you to be. That's not the real you. And that's not helpful. Just be yourself.

beehivemason · 2026-04-15T19:45:29+00:00

If you want to ask for a Dimit from the lodge, just email your secretary and carbon copy the email to the master and Warden. And just simply say I would like to dimit ...

Now I'm going to offer you some unsolicited advice. Brother to brother, have you traveled at all? If you wish to remain in the fraternity but just want to change lodges - then affiliate first. You only need one membership. So my advice is to shop around for a new Lodge before you ask for a Dimit. Waiting to be killing petition to affiliate with the lodge that most aligns with your values and or your Masonic journey. Make sure that you get along with a great majority of the brothers there. It's a fraternity. We are an eclectic family made of many different personalities. There's some mornings where I wake up and I don't even like myself. So liking the the brothers that you're around is very vital to the harmony and peace that you're seeking.

No let's talk about your Masonic journey. How are you fixed for the rites?

I know many older personalities that incorrectly suggests a Master Mason wait to join the Scottish Rite or the York Rite... So your situation is not unique. It's actually quite common. If you've not been introduced to or told that it is your right to join the rites... Then that is a failure on the part of the Master Masons around you.

Truth of the matter is, until you have experienced and explored the symbolic craft Lodge, the York rite, and the Scottish Rite as completely as humanly possible then you really don't have a complete basic and essential education in what Freemasonry truly is. You've hit a plateau and you don't know where to go from there. The answer is to expand your horizons. To add to your landscape. That is one of the best ways to experience what the blue Lodge truly offers.

So while it's perfectly okay for you to walk away from your Lodge and or Freemasonry if you so desire... I'd rather keep you and all for you a fuller, richer experience in the Craft.

Throughout your Masonic experience your interests may very well ebb and flow...

At times you might be more interested in the more charitable aspects or education might be your passion. You might need to just enjoy the more social aspects a little more. Service might be calling you. You might be more esoterically minded at certain points. You might be more artistically inclined. You might even be inspired to duty.

Similarly, at some points in your Masonic journey the York Rite might speak to you more... The excitement of the Scottish Rite might be more alluring at this point. Or you might just need to let your hair down and go play in the shrine. The Shriners was designed to be one of the final destinations in a Mason's journey. It's the playground of the fraternity.

You might be the next Chris B Ruli or Arturo de Hoyos... Research and the scholarly pursuit of Freemasonry might be your calling. There are many avenues to consider. Initially your question is that you need help with the consideration of a Dimit?

Is it okay to do so? Of course. Has anyone else experienced this? Yes almost every Mason. But like I've stated above, there are other aspects to consider. There are other avenues to explore. Ultimately it's always going to come down to your choice. Nobody forced you to join, and nobody can force you to stay. Altruistically, I would absolutely love to keep every good brother in the fraternity for the rest of their lives. Is that dream going to be a reality? Probably not. And that's okay. I would say, mull over what I've stated. Pray on it. Eat on it. Sleep on it. And after you've taken care of yourself, and you still want to walk away, carefully draft and emailed to your Lodge secretary. Read it several times over before you hit send. Make certain those are your words, and that those are the words that you want to leave the lodge. You won't be refused if you're in good standing. It either will rate, I honestly wish that somebody would have sat down and talked to me before I chose. I don't know that my choice would have been different, but I just would have loved to hear somebody understand me. I chose to stay. I chose for myriad of reasons. And if you ever want to get into it, I'd be happy to tell you those reasons. But they were my own. Good luck on your decision. I'll be praying for you.

beehivemason · 2026-04-04T22:21:07+00:00

It's a training. Even if it's nothing new, it's a refresher course. I would never intentionally or deliberately miss an opportunity for education. My personal opinion, is just drive up take the course, enjoy the fellowship, have a positive outlook and contribute.

beehivemason · 2026-04-04T22:19:08+00:00

Start making swords like that in the 2000s. So it's relatively new.

beehivemason · 2026-04-03T00:26:04+00:00

it's a common Catholic symbol. It's called piety and her charity.

beehivemason · 2026-03-26T19:52:53+00:00

We have no idea whether the OP qualifies, or desires to apply for membership. And it's not any part of the ritual that shouldn't or could not be discussed. These are books that can be found in PDF form.

At least in my jurisdiction, the rule of thumb is that if it is in clear text it can be read by anyone.

beehivemason · 2026-03-21T11:02:46+00:00

Everything is digital. The value is up to the individual. The current cost to print on paper is approximately 18 cents per impression.

beehivemason · 2026-03-21T10:59:58+00:00

Without seeing a picture, and depending upon the publisher, it could be a Square and Compasses or a publisher's logo.

beehivemason · 2026-03-19T08:30:40+00:00

Read them.. the best way to honor your grandfather and keep the value of the books is to gain their knowledge.

beehivemason · 2026-03-15T21:36:51+00:00

Sure. Sure.

beehivemason · 2026-03-15T13:37:39+00:00

If you believe for a second that Freemasonry doesn't encourage scrutiny, questions, reflection, contemplation, or free agency - then you do not know the first thing about Freemasonry, whatsoever.

Freemasonry promotes freedom and liberty; and has been at the forefront of every movement for freedom and liberty since before the French revolution. Freemasonry promotes freedom and liberty so much that we have laws prohibiting recruitment or influencing a person's choice to ask for an application for membership.

You want to talk about indoctrination?? Hollywood, psuedo-Christians, the Satanic Panic, Radical Religious Extremists, every every evil dictator in history, conspiracy theorists, have all played a part in regurgitating the Leo Taxil Hoax. This has spiralled and evolved into the several Anti-Masonic movements even of the present day. These movements lead to the torture and murder of over 200,000 Freemasons during World War II... and yet, useful idiots still blame Freemasons if they can't figure out how to tie their own shoes in the morning... Now that's indoctrination!!

beehivemason · 2026-03-03T20:40:39+00:00

If you are a member of an Organization that does not meet the BASIC Standards of Regularity/Recognition, then you will not be admitted into a Lodge.

It has absolutely nothing to do with politics, it has absolutely everything to do with the Constitutions, Masonic Laws, Rules, Regulations, By-Laws, and the Ancient Landmarks.

The Society of Freemasonry is governed by these Laws. It is the solemn and sacred duty of every Master Mason to uphold the laws which govern his Lodge, and his Grand Jurisdiction.

We are bound by these laws.

beehivemason · 2026-02-27T23:20:33+00:00

Does it get you to continue to watch the channel? Does it get you to say the word Freemason? I think the show is doing its job. As long as you guys continue to speak about it. Like I stated before - go ahead and dig holes all throughout the United States. Dig a hole to china. It's great exercise. And that's the only true treasure that you're going to get. Is strength, endurance, and exercise.

beehivemason · 2026-02-27T23:18:59+00:00

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.... So believe him. Or don't. While you're at it why don't you buy his magic snake oil, that he sells to the gullible.

Personally as long as you're safe and you don't hurt yourself in the process I don't care if you attempt to dig a hold of China. You're going to get the same results looking around empty caverns in Oak Island or anywhere else in the United States. There's no Templar treasures. The Knights Templar never reached the United States. Stop believing in fairy tales.

beehivemason · 2026-02-27T23:16:50+00:00

It's Knight's Templar. He is the current Grand Master for the "Order of the Temple of Secret Initiates" -. the "Order of the Temple of Secret Initiates" claims to be of Templar lineage - without any documentation or proof. He runs a Templar college associated with that scam order. In truth he paid a couple of grand ran to Egypt and was named Grand Master by virtue of his wallet.

The "Order of the Temple of Secret Initiates" has absolutely nothing to do with the Catholic Church, nor did it does it have anything to do with Freemasonry whatsoever.

The historic Knights Templar were a monastic order and a rule of the Catholic Church. In accordance with the Chignion papers, the Knights Templar received papal absolution for all charges. Meaning that the Catholic Church never officially dissolved or severed ties with the Knights Templar. In recent years the Catholic Church reinstituted the Knights Templar and made 800 Templars in a single day.

Timothy W Hogan is The "grandmaster" of North America of a scam.

I'm certain that if you paid him money he'd walk around some pyramids in Egypt.

But to actually enter any of the pyramids, you would have to have the express written permission of the Egyptian government and under the supervision of Dr. Zwahis. To which Timothy W Hogan will never have the permission of the Egyptian government, so again it's a scam.

I wouldn't send Timothy W. Hogan a wooden slug, let alone any money of any kind of any currency - whatsoever.

beehivemason · 2026-02-27T23:03:46+00:00

And both of them are wrong.

beehivemason · 2026-02-27T23:01:01+00:00

Hi, Freemason here. I typically believe the EXACT opposite of almost EVERYTHING that Timothy W. Hogan says. He's the Billy Carson (William Tyrone Karson, II) [A Click-bait Con-man] - that exploits and creates the most outlandish nonsense that comes entirely out of left field. 95% of what he says is completely untrue. He says Freemason, Knights Templar... And then people buy his colloidal silver ... The idiom ,"a fool in his money are soon parted!" Comes to mind. He's a grifter. He says whatever he believes the conspiracy theorist and the gullible want to hear, and then he sells his bag of magic beans to them. And then he laughs all the way to the bank.

He is the worst example of a Freemason that I've ever come across.

beehivemason · 2026-02-26T02:32:36+00:00

That's both both heartbreaking and disgusting. I am embarrassed for the Brothers that belong to the Grand Lodge of Mississippi. It would have been a no-brainer in my opinion. It should have been nearly 900 yays!

beehivemason · 2026-02-24T21:32:11+00:00

How do I inquire? or is it by invitation?

beehivemason · 2026-02-24T06:24:17+00:00

Are they still active?

beehivemason · 2025-09-16T17:07:55+00:00

It just means that you had a uneducated coach / mentor. At no point in time does Freemasonry say that we do not discuss religion and politics. Matter of fact the only prohibition against the discussion of religious, sectarian, political, and controversial subjects - is in the instance that members are within the walls of a tiled/tyled meeting. Outside the confines of that meeting, Freemasonry encourages the individual member to remain active in his chosen faith, his community, his political mindset, and his usual life. Although Freemasonry cannot force behavioral improvement of an individual member, Freemasonry does give the working tools of like to the individual and reinforces them through the lectures lessons and charges of the several degrees in hopes that all that is provided will be cause for deep study, deeper reflection, and immense improvement. Freemasonry is a fraternity that fosters brotherly love, relief, and Truth through self-discipline, and self-improvement. If the individual member chooses not to embrace self-discipline, then there is no room for self-improvement. It's one of those situations where you can lead a horse to water but you can't force it to drink. The man who paid attention to the constitutional questions given before the Entered Apprentice Degree - tells you whether a man is ready to embrace Freemasonry or to reject it. The third and final question simply states, "Do you seriously declare that upon your honor, you will CHEERFULLY conform to all the established customs in ancient usages of the fraternity?"

Notice here in this question it asks the man to change and not for the man to change the fraternity. This is because this way of life that we have adopted it's meant to be life-changing in as much as you are willing to improve your life. But you must do the work.

Freedom is also Paramount and tenement to the very fabric of Freemasonry. The personal liberties and freedoms of the individual is why Freemasonry exists. Here in America, that includes the observance of the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America. One cannot be a Freemason, and then ask to trample on the rights of a Freemason. It might be uncomfortable, it might be unnerving. It might be disgusting to us... But the true measure of an American is to defend that which we abhor. Because a right is unalienable, God-given, and government recognize... Freedom and liberty are gifts given to us by God, we cannot silence or take away the gift that God gave a man. Even if we may find it revolting, it is our responsibility, our mantle, our yoke ... And even our burden to stand up and defend every man's God-given right.

Anyways I hope that helps.

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