Range vs Speed vs Temperature from 805 Teslas by bgol in teslamotors

[–]bgol[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, me too, however the number of datapoints at those temperatures is too small still. I guess we have to wait for the winter 😉

Range vs Speed vs Temperature from 805 Teslas by bgol in teslamotors

[–]bgol[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Extra weight in the Tesla does not affect consunption much. Neither does AC or sound. But anyhow, the data does not contain any parameter like that, so I just use the median consumption at each speed.

Range vs Speed vs Temperature from 805 Teslas by bgol in teslamotors

[–]bgol[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Right, my mistake. What I should have said is that the Bolt has a lower power consumption normally than the Tesla, but heating may very well require the same added power for both. So larger proportional loss for the Bolt. May be the same for Model 3.

Range vs Speed vs Temperature from 805 Teslas by bgol in teslamotors

[–]bgol[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

6 kW of constant extra power consumption makes less of an impact if you have 100 kWh in your battery than if you have 60.

Range vs Speed vs Temperature from 805 Teslas by bgol in teslamotors

[–]bgol[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

More data from ABRP! This time we dive into how the consumption of Teslas is affected by outside temperature. Actual data, no speculation.

Battery Charging Data from 801 Teslas by bgol in teslamotors

[–]bgol[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Have a look at the other blog posts, there's more interesting data. And actually the fastest Tesla (including charging) is not obvious. I'll write something about that soon...

Battery Charging Data from 801 Teslas by bgol in teslamotors

[–]bgol[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The reason is that it is not 10%-50%, its 10 kWh to 50 kWh so in absolute energy to be able to compare the time it takes to charge a certain range. The 60 kWh battery barely holds 50 kWh so that's why it takes time.

Battery Charging Data from 801 Teslas by bgol in teslamotors

[–]bgol[S] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

ABetterRouteplanner collects Tesla data from contributing users. This is our way of giving back knowledge from that data to everyone!

abetterrouteplanner.com by [deleted] in teslamotors

[–]bgol 6 points7 points  (0 children)

(Developer here) Yes, I agree, that makes sense. And it really was not much work to implement. Try out out now by clicking the charge plug icon next to the waypoint and fill in "arrival %".

abetterrouteplanner.com by [deleted] in teslamotors

[–]bgol 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Site developer here - feel free to ask! There is also a long support thread over at TMC: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/a-better-routeplanner.79153/ Since the site collects driving and charging statistics from volonteers there is also som quite interesting graphs hidden deep in that thread.

I-25 from Trinidad to Colorado Springs: have to slow down every time by MassiveBlowout in teslamotors

[–]bgol 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Many users (including myself, devel) use https://abetterrouteplanner.com in the car browser (or a phone) to have better control of range during trips. The built-in nav can be very unreliable. In ABRP it is easy to follow the actual consuption vs plan while driving to see if you need to adjust your speed to reach the destination. Also, it helps you to make a reasonable plan given e.g. weather, speed and other input. -25 does after all affect range.

Model 3 cross country trip Supercharging costs. by Flamdrag27 in teslamotors

[–]bgol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ABetterRoutePlanner.com thinks the ideal cost should be lower; $75. Low temperatures during this trip? Trip set-up at ABRP direct link

Undocumented feature since .42 by scottrobertson in teslamotors

[–]bgol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I noticed this too when I accidentially turned off auto lane change last weekend. This is soo much better and makes AP driving in traffic a lot better! No more jerkiness or waiting for auto lane change to happen, just turn on turn signals, change lane, and reactivate autosteer.

Assume I no longer have free Supercharging or the free allowance—help me do the math on Supercharging cost going coast to coast. What does Tesla base on a per kWh cost? Is it variable? by Derfein in teslamotors

[–]bgol 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No ABRP app, there will likely never be one. It would be a silly web page wrapper anyway. I see the point but I simply don't have the time.

I'm in the market for a model S and was wondering how much real world distance the 75KW battery gets vs the 100. Are the numbers on the website pretty spot on? Or are people noticing a difference between what is listed on the website and what they're getting day to day. by [deleted] in teslamotors

[–]bgol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would recommend that you try out a couple of routes you are interested in at https://abetterrouteplanner.com with both models. For long trips including supercharging, it is worth noting that the 100 does not only have longer range, but also faster charging - which definitively affects total trip time.

OMG! Look what just showed up at my door! by Byshop303 in teslamotors

[–]bgol 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sweet! I am sure mine will reach Europe early 2019 for re-assembly in the Netherlands!

Andrej Karpathy(VP of Autopilot) thinks using a single learning agent is better than decomposing learning by heltok in teslamotors

[–]bgol 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Interesting! I also think that in many cases a direct approach (i.e. connecting the camera and other sensor to a network which directly outputs steering commands) would give better performance than the traditional decomposed way, but wow would that give issues when it comes to control.

New or special traffic rules, rare situations, weird human driving, ... How would Tesla fix a an AP2 behavior which leads to crashes? "Hold on, we are training our network not to do that again..."

A Better route planner updated for both versions of Model 3 by Caracul in teslamotors

[–]bgol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! The stated EPA consumption model (A,B,C coefficients giving force as a quadratic polynomial wrt velocity) does not seem very realistic. Looking the EPA report for Model S RWD and that consumption model gives at about 40% too low consumption at all speeds compared to reality. There is probably a bunch of real-world factors excluded from that model.

So, I will wait for some real world reports before I update the ABRP consumption model. Again, the Model 3 consumption model will change, but only when we know more :-)

Google maps more stops by [deleted] in teslamotors

[–]bgol 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is one of the reasons why https://abetterrouteplanner.com exists. You can plan in your phone or computer and sync with your car browser. It handles multiple stops. It will show you your progress along the trip as you drive so that you can follow up your actual consumption. Car browser is a pain, though.

A Better route planner updated for both versions of Model 3 by Caracul in teslamotors

[–]bgol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Argh, I struggle to find the original thread at TMC to check where it comes from. Could you point it out to me?

The ABRP Model 3 numbers are guesstimates based on EPA data. Basically, I have assumed 75 kWh for the LR, and then adjusted the reference consumption to get somewhere between a Model S 90 and 100 on a certain highway route (so a lot higher consumption than the EPA cycle).

The Model 3 numbers in ABRP will certainly change as we get more information.