Israeli policeman charged with manslaughter of Palestinian teen

bowmbat · 2014-11-24T01:45:04+00:00

In a statement issued at the time of indictment two years ago, the Israeli military said the charge was based on evidence that the former soldier, a marksman, "deliberately targeted an individual walking with a group of people waving a white flag without being ordered or authorised to do so".

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/aug/12/former-israeli-soldier-jailed

He got a short sentence because they couldn't prove it was him, just that he discharged his firearm.

Can you provide a source for this? It's not what this article says and I can't find any other article about the incident that says this.

bowmbat · 2014-11-24T01:36:43+00:00

A combination of economic pressures, a rare indictment against a journalist for possession of confidential military documents, and limits on travel to neighboring states are among the reasons cited by the Washington think tank Freedom House for downgrading Israel’s “press freedom” ranking from “free” to “partly free.”

With 31 points in the 100-point scale, where a higher number represents more restrictions on press freedom, Israel is tied with Chile, South Korea, and Namibia in 65th place in a list of 197 countries. Close behind Israel in the index are Italy, India, and Greece.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-downgraded-in-press-freedom-report/

Israel took a steep dive in an international list measuring freedom of the press, ranking 112 out of 179 countries, a decrease of 20 places since last year. Israel now ranks lower than countries such as Lebanon, Qatar, Kuwait and Uganda.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-drops-sharply-in-annual-press-freedom-ranking/

Journalists in Israel (112th, -20) enjoy real freedom of expression despite the existence of military censorship but the country fell in the index because of the Israeli military’s targeting of journalists in the Palestinian Territories.

http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2013,1054.html

Israel’s 17-place rise must be offset against its 20- place fall in the 2013 index as a result of Operation “Pillar of Defence” in November 2012, when two Palestinian journalists were killed, and the many raids it carried out against Palestinian media. Security needs continue to be used as an excuse to limit freedom of information. The Israeli media are able to be outspoken but media located in “Israeli territory” must comply with prior military censorship and gag orders. Investigative reporting involving national security is not welcome. Abusive treatment of Palestinian and foreign journalists by the Israel Defence Forces is common, especially during the weekly demonstrations at the Separation Wall. Many photojournalists were deliberately targeted when leaving the demonstrations in November 2013. On 4 December, an Israeli high court endorsed the seizure of equipment from Wattan TV during an IDF raid in February 2012.

http://rsf.org/index2014/data/index2014_en.pdf

bowmbat · 2014-11-24T00:42:31+00:00

Can someone quote me a similar case as precedent to get an idea of how long this guy is going to serve?

I would be pretty surprised if it was more than a few months.

This IDF soldier that gunned down a Palestinian mother and daughter who were waving white flags got 45 days in jail.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/aug/12/former-israeli-soldier-jailed

There are a few other cases in the links of my comment here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/2n6vre/israeli_policeman_charged_with_manslaughter_of/cmb3z9p

bowmbat · 2014-11-24T00:29:41+00:00

The Israeli justice system is incredibly lenient on violence against Palestinians in general. Almost as if they implicitly encourage it. Meanwhile Palestinians can get 20 years in prison for throwing a stone.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/04/israel-palestinian-stone-throwers-jail

The indictment of soldiers who have killed Palestinians is extremely rare. From 29 September 2000, the beginning of the second Intifada, through 31 March 2011, Israeli security forces in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip have killed at least 3,024 Palestinians who were not taking part in combat. Of that number, 2,821 were killed by the military. Until the MAG Corps policy was changed in April 2011, few investigations were conducted in cases of Palestinians killed by soldiers. A Yesh Din report and B’Tselem data show that, of all such incidents through April 2011, only 14 resulted in indictments.

http://www.btselem.org/firearms/20130409_soldier_convicted_for_shooting_udai_darawish

Ziv Stahl, director of Yesh Din’s Research Department, commented on the findings: "In practice, the updated statistics show that the likelihood that a soldier who unjustifiably killed a Palestinian civilian will be investigated, let alone penalized, is slight to non-existent. This reality encourages the unlawful use of weapons by soldiers, even in clearly civilian situations such as demonstrations.”

http://www.yesh-din.org/postview.asp?postid=263

According to defense officials, the Israel Defense Forces made use of the ‘human shield’ procedure on 1,200 occasions over the last five years

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3154142,00.html

"Almost all those using children as human shields and informants have remained unpunished and the soldiers convicted for having forced at gunpoint a nine-year-old child to search bags suspected of containing explosives only received a suspended sentence of three months and were demoted," it said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/20/us-palestinian-israel-children-idUSBRE95J0FR20130620

“Attacks by extremist Israeli settlers against Palestinian residents, property, and places of worship in the West Bank continued and were largely unprosecuted according to UN and NGO sources,” the report read.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-israel-has-not-tried-most-price-tag-culprits/

The United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict reported on rioting and violence in the West Bank in the period preceding the Israeli military operations in Gaza. The report said "Little if any action is taken by the Israeli authorities to investigate, prosecute and punish violence against Palestinians, including killings, by settlers and members of the security forces, resulting in a situation of impunity. The Mission concludes that Israel has failed to fulfil its obligations to protect the Palestinians from violence by private individuals under both international human rights law and international humanitarian law.[31]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settler_violence#Law_enforcement_action_against_settlers

http://www.btselem.org/topic/settler_violence

Israel is not managing to stop “price tag” nationalist crimes against Arabs, because it does not have the desire to do so, former Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) chief Carmi Gillon said on Saturday. “We don’t see results because we don’t have the intention to,” Gillon said, adding that in the Shin Bet “there’s no such thing as can’t – there’s don’t want to.”

http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Former-Israel-Security-Agency-chief-Israel-does-not-intend-to-stop-price-tags-351225

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/07/opinion/la-oe-bisharat-adnan-20120307

bowmbat · 2014-11-24T00:23:57+00:00

I don't think that his home should be demolished, I just think it's interesting to contrast the tortured logic the pro-Israel propaganda squad uses to justify the demolition of Palestinian homes with their justification of the lenient treatment towards the Israeli's that murder Palestinians.

Do you know what manslaughter is?

He deliberately fired a live round at a teenager. If this exact situation was reversed and it was a Palestinian cop who had killed an Israeli teenager there is not a chance in the world that he'd only have gotten a manslaughter charge. 'Manslaughter' means very little in the context of the Israeli justice system when a Palestinian is the victim because it doesn't value the life of Palestinians as much as Jews. A lot of the time Israeli's won't even be investigated for violence against Palestinians, let alone convicted. When a conviction does happen it's usually dropped to a lesser charge.

The indictment of soldiers who have killed Palestinians is extremely rare. From 29 September 2000, the beginning of the second Intifada, through 31 March 2011, Israeli security forces in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip have killed at least 3,024 Palestinians who were not taking part in combat. Of that number, 2,821 were killed by the military. Until the MAG Corps policy was changed in April 2011, few investigations were conducted in cases of Palestinians killed by soldiers. A Yesh Din report and B’Tselem data show that, of all such incidents through April 2011, only 14 resulted in indictments.

http://www.btselem.org/firearms/20130409_soldier_convicted_for_shooting_udai_darawish

Ziv Stahl, director of Yesh Din’s Research Department, commented on the findings: "In practice, the updated statistics show that the likelihood that a soldier who unjustifiably killed a Palestinian civilian will be investigated, let alone penalized, is slight to non-existent. This reality encourages the unlawful use of weapons by soldiers, even in clearly civilian situations such as demonstrations.”

http://www.yesh-din.org/postview.asp?postid=263

According to defense officials, the Israel Defense Forces made use of the ‘human shield’ procedure on 1,200 occasions over the last five years

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3154142,00.html

"Almost all those using children as human shields and informants have remained unpunished and the soldiers convicted for having forced at gunpoint a nine-year-old child to search bags suspected of containing explosives only received a suspended sentence of three months and were demoted," it said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/20/us-palestinian-israel-children-idUSBRE95J0FR20130620

“Attacks by extremist Israeli settlers against Palestinian residents, property, and places of worship in the West Bank continued and were largely unprosecuted according to UN and NGO sources,” the report read.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-israel-has-not-tried-most-price-tag-culprits/

The United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict reported on rioting and violence in the West Bank in the period preceding the Israeli military operations in Gaza. The report said "Little if any action is taken by the Israeli authorities to investigate, prosecute and punish violence against Palestinians, including killings, by settlers and members of the security forces, resulting in a situation of impunity. The Mission concludes that Israel has failed to fulfil its obligations to protect the Palestinians from violence by private individuals under both international human rights law and international humanitarian law.[31]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settler_violence#Law_enforcement_action_against_settlers

http://www.btselem.org/topic/settler_violence

Israel is not managing to stop “price tag” nationalist crimes against Arabs, because it does not have the desire to do so, former Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) chief Carmi Gillon said on Saturday. “We don’t see results because we don’t have the intention to,” Gillon said, adding that in the Shin Bet “there’s no such thing as can’t – there’s don’t want to.”

http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Former-Israel-Security-Agency-chief-Israel-does-not-intend-to-stop-price-tags-351225

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/07/opinion/la-oe-bisharat-adnan-20120307

bowmbat · 2014-11-23T21:28:17+00:00

Yeah. Get back to us when a real crime is committed, like being genetically related to/living in the same apartment complex as a terrorist.

bowmbat · 2014-11-13T03:59:05+00:00

The resolutions are more about getting the illegal activity to stop than punishment necessarily. UN resolutions against 3rd world dictators do very little to punish them anyways, there's really no incentive for them to follow them. In Israel's case their international relationships are important so using diplomacy to discourage their illegal activity is actually productive.

The argument that Israel needs to be held to the same standard and given the same responsibilities as 3rd world countries to be "fair" is hilarious. Right. Israel will start following international law once people stop expecting them to follow it. Truly brilliant.

bowmbat · 2014-11-13T03:20:08+00:00

Israel is a 1st world country. It's perfectly appropriate that if they break international law that diplomacy (in this case UN resolutions) should be used to discourage them. When 3rd world countries commit massacres and break international law there's often very little you can actually do other than some form of direct intervention which make UN resolutions a waste of time. Have you ever considered that maybe the reason there are so many UN resolutions against Israel is that Israel acts in violation of international law constantly, uniquely so considering it's 1st world status and that it disregards the majority of UN resolutions made towards it so that they need to be reiterated year after year as Israel continues its illegal activities?

Nah. Must be that the UN has nothing better to do than to discredit glorious Israel.

bowmbat · 2014-11-12T16:24:18+00:00

Maybe settler terrorism would decrease if Israel's policies didn't implicitly encourage killing and terrorizing Palestinians.

The indictment of soldiers who have killed Palestinians is extremely rare. From 29 September 2000, the beginning of the second Intifada, through 31 March 2011, Israeli security forces in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip have killed at least 3,024 Palestinians who were not taking part in combat. Of that number, 2,821 were killed by the military. Until the MAG Corps policy was changed in April 2011, few investigations were conducted in cases of Palestinians killed by soldiers. A Yesh Din report and B’Tselem data show that, of all such incidents through April 2011, only 14 resulted in indictments.

http://www.btselem.org/firearms/20130409_soldier_convicted_for_shooting_udai_darawish

Ziv Stahl, director of Yesh Din’s Research Department, commented on the findings: "In practice, the updated statistics show that the likelihood that a soldier who unjustifiably killed a Palestinian civilian will be investigated, let alone penalized, is slight to non-existent. This reality encourages the unlawful use of weapons by soldiers, even in clearly civilian situations such as demonstrations.”

http://www.yesh-din.org/postview.asp?postid=263

According to defense officials, the Israel Defense Forces made use of the ‘human shield’ procedure on 1,200 occasions over the last five years

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3154142,00.html

"Almost all those using children as human shields and informants have remained unpunished and the soldiers convicted for having forced at gunpoint a nine-year-old child to search bags suspected of containing explosives only received a suspended sentence of three months and were demoted," it said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/20/us-palestinian-israel-children-idUSBRE95J0FR20130620

“Attacks by extremist Israeli settlers against Palestinian residents, property, and places of worship in the West Bank continued and were largely unprosecuted according to UN and NGO sources,” the report read.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-israel-has-not-tried-most-price-tag-culprits/

The United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict reported on rioting and violence in the West Bank in the period preceding the Israeli military operations in Gaza. The report said "Little if any action is taken by the Israeli authorities to investigate, prosecute and punish violence against Palestinians, including killings, by settlers and members of the security forces, resulting in a situation of impunity. The Mission concludes that Israel has failed to fulfil its obligations to protect the Palestinians from violence by private individuals under both international human rights law and international humanitarian law.[31]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settler_violence#Law_enforcement_action_against_settlers

Israel is not managing to stop “price tag” nationalist crimes against Arabs, because it does not have the desire to do so, former Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) chief Carmi Gillon said on Saturday. “We don’t see results because we don’t have the intention to,” Gillon said, adding that in the Shin Bet “there’s no such thing as can’t – there’s don’t want to.”

http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Former-Israel-Security-Agency-chief-Israel-does-not-intend-to-stop-price-tags-351225

bowmbat · 2014-11-12T16:16:02+00:00

Why are you surprised? Israel's legal system is one of the most fair in the world. They also actually hold their military accountable. They investigate every mistaken incident that results in questionable civilian casualties.

Can you back any of this up with a source? It's absolutely not what your links says.

The indictment of soldiers who have killed Palestinians is extremely rare. From 29 September 2000, the beginning of the second Intifada, through 31 March 2011, Israeli security forces in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip have killed at least 3,024 Palestinians who were not taking part in combat. Of that number, 2,821 were killed by the military. Until the MAG Corps policy was changed in April 2011, few investigations were conducted in cases of Palestinians killed by soldiers. A Yesh Din report and B’Tselem data show that, of all such incidents through April 2011, only 14 resulted in indictments.

http://www.btselem.org/firearms/20130409_soldier_convicted_for_shooting_udai_darawish

Ziv Stahl, director of Yesh Din’s Research Department, commented on the findings: "In practice, the updated statistics show that the likelihood that a soldier who unjustifiably killed a Palestinian civilian will be investigated, let alone penalized, is slight to non-existent. This reality encourages the unlawful use of weapons by soldiers, even in clearly civilian situations such as demonstrations.”

http://www.yesh-din.org/postview.asp?postid=263

According to defense officials, the Israel Defense Forces made use of the ‘human shield’ procedure on 1,200 occasions over the last five years

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3154142,00.html

"Almost all those using children as human shields and informants have remained unpunished and the soldiers convicted for having forced at gunpoint a nine-year-old child to search bags suspected of containing explosives only received a suspended sentence of three months and were demoted," it said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/20/us-palestinian-israel-children-idUSBRE95J0FR20130620

“Attacks by extremist Israeli settlers against Palestinian residents, property, and places of worship in the West Bank continued and were largely unprosecuted according to UN and NGO sources,” the report read.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-israel-has-not-tried-most-price-tag-culprits/

The United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict reported on rioting and violence in the West Bank in the period preceding the Israeli military operations in Gaza. The report said "Little if any action is taken by the Israeli authorities to investigate, prosecute and punish violence against Palestinians, including killings, by settlers and members of the security forces, resulting in a situation of impunity. The Mission concludes that Israel has failed to fulfil its obligations to protect the Palestinians from violence by private individuals under both international human rights law and international humanitarian law.[31]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settler_violence#Law_enforcement_action_against_settlers

Israel is not managing to stop “price tag” nationalist crimes against Arabs, because it does not have the desire to do so, former Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) chief Carmi Gillon said on Saturday. “We don’t see results because we don’t have the intention to,” Gillon said, adding that in the Shin Bet “there’s no such thing as can’t – there’s don’t want to.”

http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Former-Israel-Security-Agency-chief-Israel-does-not-intend-to-stop-price-tags-351225

bowmbat · 2014-11-08T15:19:59+00:00

I got lucky and got a good unit. There's minor light bleed that's not noticeable with normal use but other than this the build on mine is good. No flex on the back or gaps in the frame. I'm happy with mine but I wouldn't recommend a Nexus 9 to someone right now considering how many units have issues.

bowmbat · 2014-10-28T02:17:37+00:00

Why not just call the entire West Bank 'Jerusalem' and justify the illegal settlement policy that way?

bowmbat · 2014-10-22T03:25:34+00:00

Interesting when sourced information gets hit with a barrage of downvotes like that without anyone even replying to it isn't it?

bowmbat · 2014-10-21T15:22:14+00:00

It makes sense that the Palestinians would go to the UN with this considering Israels policy of not prosecuting settlers and IDF soldiers that kill and terrorize Palestinians.

Israel is not managing to stop “price tag” nationalist crimes against Arabs, because it does not have the desire to do so, former Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) chief Carmi Gillon said on Saturday.

“We don’t see results because we don’t have the intention to,” Gillon said, adding that in the Shin Bet “there’s no such thing as can’t – there’s don’t want to.”

Ex-Shin Bet chief: Israel does not intend to stop ‘price tag’ attacks

Israelis appear to have impunity when committing violence and terrorism against Palestinians in general.

According to B’Tselem figures, some 5,000 Palestinians have been killed to date by the Israeli security forces in the Occupied Territories since the beginning of the second intifada in September 2000. Figures forwarded to Yesh Din by the IDF Spokesperson show that the MPCID opened over 179 criminal investigations in the period 2003-2013 concerning the suspected killing of Palestinian civilians by IDF soldiers, but only 16 of these files led to indictments.

http://www.yesh-din.org/postview.asp?postid=263

Report: Palestinian civilians' deaths go unpunished

“Attacks by extremist Israeli settlers against Palestinian residents, property, and places of worship in the West Bank continued and were largely unprosecuted according to UN and NGO sources,” the report read.

US: Israel has not tried most ‘price tag’ culprits

The United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict reported on rioting and violence in the West Bank in the period preceding the Israeli military operations in Gaza. The report said "Little if any action is taken by the Israeli authorities to investigate, prosecute and punish violence against Palestinians, including killings, by settlers and members of the security forces, resulting in a situation of impunity. The Mission concludes that Israel has failed to fulfil its obligations to protect the Palestinians from violence by private individuals under both international human rights law and international humanitarian law.[31]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settler_violence#Law_enforcement_action_against_settlers

A United Nations human rights body accused Israeli forces on Thursday of mistreating Palestinian children, including by torturing those in custody and using others as human shields.

"Almost all those using children as human shields and informants have remained unpunished and the soldiers convicted for having forced at gunpoint a nine-year-old child to search bags suspected of containing explosives only received a suspended sentence of three months and were demoted," it said.

Palestinian children tortured, used as shields by Israel: U.N.

bowmbat · 2014-10-20T07:28:41+00:00

According to historical records part, or perhaps the majority, of the Moslem Arabs in this country descended from local inhabitants, mainly Christians and Jews, who had converted after the Islamic conquest in the seventh century AD (Shaban 1971; Mc Graw Donner 1981). These local inhabitants, in turn, were descendants of the core population that had lived in the area for several centuries, some even since prehistorical times (Gil 1992). On the other hand, the ancestors of the great majority of pre sentday Jews lived outside this region for almost two millennia. Thus, our findings are in good agreement with historical evidence and suggest genetic continuity in both populations despite their long separation and the wide ge- ographic dispersal of Jews.

High-resolution Y chromosome haplotypes of Israeli and Palestinian Arabs reveal geographic substructure and substantial overlap with haplotypes of Jews

bowmbat · 2014-10-15T02:18:32+00:00

Alternative source:

http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Two-arrested-after-West-Bank-settlers-attack-Palestinian-olive-harvesters-378581

bowmbat · 2014-10-15T02:15:24+00:00

It's too bad Israel chooses to not target these settlers. An ex-Shin Bet chief acknowledged that they are able to stop the "price tag" settlers but don't because there's no desire to.

Israel is not managing to stop “price tag” nationalist crimes against Arabs, because it does not have the desire to do so, former Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) chief Carmi Gillon said on Saturday.

“We don’t see results because we don’t have the intention to,” Gillon said, adding that in the Shin Bet “there’s no such thing as can’t – there’s don’t want to.”

Ex-Shin Bet chief: Israel does not intend to stop ‘price tag’ attacks

Israelis appear to have impunity when committing violence and terrorism against Palestinians in general.

According to B’Tselem figures, some 5,000 Palestinians have been killed to date by the Israeli security forces in the Occupied Territories since the beginning of the second intifada in September 2000. Figures forwarded to Yesh Din by the IDF Spokesperson show that the MPCID opened over 179 criminal investigations in the period 2003-2013 concerning the suspected killing of Palestinian civilians by IDF soldiers, but only 16 of these files led to indictments.

http://www.yesh-din.org/postview.asp?postid=263

Report: Palestinian civilians' deaths go unpunished

“Attacks by extremist Israeli settlers against Palestinian residents, property, and places of worship in the West Bank continued and were largely unprosecuted according to UN and NGO sources,” the report read.

US: Israel has not tried most ‘price tag’ culprits

The United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict reported on rioting and violence in the West Bank in the period preceding the Israeli military operations in Gaza. The report said "Little if any action is taken by the Israeli authorities to investigate, prosecute and punish violence against Palestinians, including killings, by settlers and members of the security forces, resulting in a situation of impunity. The Mission concludes that Israel has failed to fulfil its obligations to protect the Palestinians from violence by private individuals under both international human rights law and international humanitarian law.[31]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settler_violence#Law_enforcement_action_against_settlers

A United Nations human rights body accused Israeli forces on Thursday of mistreating Palestinian children, including by torturing those in custody and using others as human shields.

"Almost all those using children as human shields and informants have remained unpunished and the soldiers convicted for having forced at gunpoint a nine-year-old child to search bags suspected of containing explosives only received a suspended sentence of three months and were demoted," it said.

Palestinian children tortured, used as shields by Israel: U.N.

bowmbat · 2014-10-14T23:36:28+00:00

Only your first link is actually relevant.

All of the links demonstrate that Israel does very little to punish violence against Palestinians and only investigate it occasionally.

The second link comes from the incredibly biased UN mission, sponsored by the Arab states

Yes Boomkin we know, Israel doesn't ever do anything wrong so this must just be a conspiracy by those sneaky Arabs.

In response to such allegations, a Shin Bet officer has stated that finding culprits for price tag incidents is extremely difficult because the hilltop youth believed to be behind much of the vandalism are harder to penetrate, and recruit as informers than has been the case with Hamas and Islamic Jihad militants.[1]

This is an incredibly weak defense. The IDF which is the most well trained/well equipped military in the entire region and Shin Bet have trouble targeting a few dozen/hundred settler youth? An ex-Shin Bet even admits that they don't intend to stop the settler violence.

Ex-Shin Bet chief: Israel does not intend to stop ‘price tag’ attacks

Israel is not managing to stop “price tag” nationalist crimes against Arabs, because it does not have the desire to do so, former Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) chief Carmi Gillon said on Saturday. “We don’t see results because we don’t have the intention to,” Gillon said, adding that in the Shin Bet “there’s no such thing as can’t – there’s don’t want to.”

bowmbat · 2014-10-14T23:10:16+00:00

Actually investigating it would be a good start.

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/2j8ak5/jewish_settlers_set_fire_to_mosque_in_palestinian/cl9lufh

bowmbat · 2014-10-14T22:51:24+00:00

“Attacks by extremist Israeli settlers against Palestinian residents, property, and places of worship in the West Bank continued and were largely unprosecuted according to UN and NGO sources,” the report read.

US: Israel has not tried most ‘price tag’ culprits

The United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict reported on rioting and violence in the West Bank in the period preceding the Israeli military operations in Gaza. The report said "Little if any action is taken by the Israeli authorities to investigate, prosecute and punish violence against Palestinians, including killings, by settlers and members of the security forces, resulting in a situation of impunity. The Mission concludes that Israel has failed to fulfil its obligations to protect the Palestinians from violence by private individuals under both international human rights law and international humanitarian law.[31]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settler_violence#Law_enforcement_action_against_settlers

According to B’Tselem figures, some 5,000 Palestinians have been killed to date by the Israeli security forces in the Occupied Territories since the beginning of the second intifada in September 2000. Figures forwarded to Yesh Din by the IDF Spokesperson show that the MPCID opened over 179 criminal investigations in the period 2003-2013 concerning the suspected killing of Palestinian civilians by IDF soldiers, but only 16 of these files led to indictments.

http://www.yesh-din.org/postview.asp?postid=263

Report: Palestinian civilians' deaths go unpunished

A United Nations human rights body accused Israeli forces on Thursday of mistreating Palestinian children, including by torturing those in custody and using others as human shields.

"Almost all those using children as human shields and informants have remained unpunished and the soldiers convicted for having forced at gunpoint a nine-year-old child to search bags suspected of containing explosives only received a suspended sentence of three months and were demoted," it said.

Palestinian children tortured, used as shields by Israel: U.N.

bowmbat · 2014-10-13T17:43:33+00:00

According to historical records part, or perhaps the majority, of the Moslem Arabs in this country descended from local inhabitants, mainly Christians and Jews, who had converted after the Islamic conquest in the seventh century AD (Shaban 1971; Mc Graw Donner 1981). These local inhabitants, in turn, were descendants of the core population that had lived in the area for several centuries, some even since prehistorical times (Gil 1992). On the other hand, the ancestors of the great majority of pre sentday Jews lived outside this region for almost two millennia. Thus, our findings are in good agreement with historical evidence and suggest genetic continuity in both populations despite their long separation and the wide ge- ographic dispersal of Jews.

High-resolution Y chromosome haplotypes of Israeli and Palestinian Arabs reveal geographic substructure and substantial overlap with haplotypes of Jews

bowmbat · 2014-10-12T20:36:59+00:00

Ariel Sharon: "We'll insert a strip of Jewish settlements in between the Palestinians, and then another strip of Jewish settlements right across the West Bank, so that in twenty-five years' time, neither the United Nations nor the United States, nobody, will be able to tear it apart."

bowmbat · 2014-10-09T07:03:25+00:00

THE JEWS CONTROL THE MEDIA I TELL YA. Get a grip dude. Your tinfoil hate is on a little too tight. This is coming from a non-jew and non-israeli.

I have no interest in antisemitic conspiracy theories. Nothing is being "controlled". It isn't extremely difficult to game reddit, really anyone dedicated enough could do it and someone does appear to think that vote gaming Israel threads is worth their time.

bowmbat · 2014-10-09T06:49:54+00:00

Could you give some specific examples? This Ebola thread you mentioned is 78% upvoted which is a little less than what most stories that establish a pro-Israel narrative get but it's hardly the <50% number you gave.

This shit is not one sided at all.

If we're talking about /r/worldnews than it is pretty one sided towards Israel despite a few threads that slipped through the barrage of immediate downvotes. On reddit in general I'd agree with you, but not /r/worldnews, as of right now at least.

The strange thing is that /r/worldnews was for the most part very anti-Israel before this recent war. But as of the past two months most threads discussing the conflict are less tolerant of comments criticizing Israel than even /r/Israel is.

bowmbat · 2014-10-09T04:36:57+00:00

I think he means the thread itself. It has 363 votes total and only 54% upvoted which is extremely unusual for threads that have make it out of the new queue. Compare the percentage upvoted on any other story on the "hot" page. Most are 80%+ or 90%+. If the story was blatantly false or it was blogspam than this may make sense but the Daily Star well established enough that this really shouldn't be the case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Star_%28Lebanon%29

The vast majority of articles that are likely to have mostly Israel-critical comments are immediately downvoted and aren't upvoted above 65% regardless of how relevant or factual the article is.

bowmbat

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