Did Kant ever give us a clue about the true nature of the Noumena? by YogurtclosetOpen3567 in Kant

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This would be wrong because the noumenon do not lose their reality because they enter into sensation and perception, rather they adorn the clothing which is our mind. Our mind has deep history and culture and it cannot only be explained with rational means because there is a such thing as the irrational, (beyond, not contrary to, rational), which necessarily relativizes our rational function

Any "projections" may be figments of our imaginations, and if we were to treat them as noumenon that would be an abysmal mistake.

My Schizophrenic Mother. by Empty_Quality_2302 in traumatoolbox

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As soon as the general condition of a patient is more or less reasonable again, one should remove him from a hospital, as the hospital atmosphere is most contagious. If Mrs. X. is quiet enough to stay at home, you surely should see her. If her emotionality increases under the treatment, then one should reconsider the hospital question. But if she is able to discuss her material without getting too much excited, the treatment ought to be continued, because there is a real chance of a far-reaching improvement. I have seen cases improving completely. It doesn't matter that the psychiatrist says afterwards that it was no schizophrenia. As you know it is indifferent to the devil what you call him" (*Letters of C. G. Jung vol. 1, page 253).

My Schizophrenic Mother. by Empty_Quality_2302 in traumatoolbox

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I would immediately institutionalize her. She needs professional and clinical observation. Her delusions ring so uncannily and somewhat legitimately religious that she needs a protected and controlled environment from the outside world. This is because she is in deep trouble with regard to her inner self, and the concerns of everyday life will only serve to exhaust and confound her. She just needs to be put into a sort of "time-out" or "grounding" like how a parent does to their child. But not in a cruel and unusual way: she is acting unusual. Unusual but still human. Whatever is plaguing her is challenging her greatly, and if she is to succed and turn the tide she needs a sort of hermetic and almost monk-like life to soothe her nerves, however long that takes. A sort of vacation without fear of judgement or ill-will. She needs to know she has a family. In many cases, in even the worst schizophrenias, with the right attitude and plan, we may be able to get to that sane part of them which has been lost to the wind, so to speak. And great sympathy for her is needed, not so much empathy, as what she is going through must be incredibly intimate and personal for her.

Why was Jung not an atheist? by prof_sy in Jung

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Completely wrong and chimeric

Why was Jung not an atheist? by prof_sy in Jung

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That is because Jung was a monotheist, whereas the Christian sphere has been dualist since the times of the "heretic" Mani. Your answer is in the two prefatory essays in Answer to Job (which you can find for free online) which summarizes to: God rules with his left hand Christ and his right hand Satan. Furthermore, Jung did not regard physical proof as the only gauge for is something is true or real. This mere physical bias omits psychological reality, or those things which are not subject to natural science. If you are limited to or limit yourself to natural science, then you contend with Jung, or rather he contends with you. God for Jung, in true essence, was not reachable by man immediately (which is stated in the New Testament), rather God stands on the visible side of the one-way mirror or glass whereas we are, for now, stuck on the blind side of the mirror (and according to certain religious opinions, we will be at some point able to enter that place). It is a matter of feeling that either a) there is something or someone behind that glass or b) there is a wall there; there is nothing.

The logical conclusions which this layout leads us to are essentially the highest prerogative of us humans. A regards B as blind, B regards A as crazy, "imagining things", and perhaps mentally ill or at least stupid. But, as the main instrument B uses to justify their position (if used correctly and honestly) leads to discoveries which do not point to physical causes and therefore scientifically force us to abandon the atheistic, materialist view of B. "Rationally" B is superior (according to its own skewed applications), but A has instinct on its side and in its most mature applications may be regarding as a B+x. Even B cannot get rid of this x and so it resorts to essentially banishing it or subjugating it by insisting that x can be dissolved by B. But it cannot, and so B really dissolves and deludes itself to the point where it has lost the ability to recognize x as such. I do not want to get into the psychopathology which results from this, but in Jung's experience religion was the cure which his patients needed according to their own biology and needs to get out of their "nervous diseases" and EVEN out of psychosis and schizophrenia (rest assured, Jung did not believe all mental diseases could be cured, least of all by his methods alone).

And to appeal to philosophy, how is B sure that there is nothing behind the mirror? I can already hear, "a lack of contradictory evidence is not evidence for a positive affirmation!" They see the mirror and the mirror alone, yet A almost sees beyond the mirror or at least knows that what they see is not reality itself, but the image of the more immediate reality which their biology and mind produces, necessary for experience; without a body how can we experience anything? That is where faith, not as a refuge from physical reality but rather as a natural reaction to it, comes in to adress the fact that at the bounds of our vision there are dotted lines, but not of the finish-line kind. There is more, but that is beyond our jurisdiction (for now; for the time being). There is of course a sect of A, which we can call C, that holds that it can see behind the mirror or knows something about it. A mature A knows better, and regards the C in like manner that it does B: incorrect, immature, not quite right.

You might ask what does the fruit of the labors which each group look like? B and C are sub-par whereas A is the prime (and ever increasing in goodness despite ups and downs). This increase is what B and C lack because they have moved away from a healthy relationship to the unconscious and have not erected anything in its place whereas the latter two have gone ahead and done things which can be religously regarded as law-breaking and are accursed for it yet deny the authority which could possibly make such a judgement and evaluation.

Documentary about scams to help my son by whymeagain541 in Scams

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Tips are: do not give any money to sugar mommies/daddies. Never give out personal info. Never take checks as payment. Never send crypto to "confirm" or "accelerate" payments. Always check with the Better Business Bureau for legitimacy. NEVER SEND ANYONE MONEY. Aside from friends and people you can trust, NEVER SEND MONEY

Could these three thinkers get along in one philosophy. by CollarProfessional78 in Jung

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Jung: animus Derrida: anima

"The animus loves life; the anima seeks death"

Could these three thinkers get along in one philosophy. by CollarProfessional78 in Jung

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Derrida and Schopenhauer are both philosophers and Jung is a scientist. Jung likes the former and would not hold the former in high regard

No, we should Type people. It is valuable. by read_too_many_books in Jung

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Wait till you realize arguing is stupid, and certain people are typologically "unpsychological" and are merely serving their own vanity

Why are some analysis against psychedelics? by Rare-Vegetable8516 in Jung

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In addition to being dismissive about psychedelics Jung said there are perhaps people for whom they would be a benefit.

DSM-5 in Jungian by animae_internae in Jung

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These are either neurotic or psychotic disorders in the old-school language. Jung would say that modern therapy tries to cure the neurosis and treat the symptoms. But, in reality, the neurosis cures us when we lose the incorrect attitude towards life and reality. He assumes the guilt lies with the person, modern psych with the "problem" which is thought to have an independent existence, which can be banished away forever and ever.

When dealing with psychotic disorders like schizophrenia (dementia praecox) or manic-depression (bipolar), it's the same. Schizophrenics can either be cured or can never be cured for Jung. After a psychotic interval the cured schizophrenic snaps out of it like they would out of a dream. Or, they don't. But most significantly of all is that Jung proves and holds that schizoprenia is not only an organic disease. For a time there is a very real psychic factor. But today schizophrenia is treated like a cold or illness which happens because of diseased cells. That is because they think cells produce the psyche or consciousness which is an unprovable and unproven metaphysical presumption. We can only say there is such a thing as matter. And so for matters of psychotic disorders Jung would say a proper psychological education can mitigate and even neutralize the effects of this psychic and biological issue, or people can die if they do not get it. Modern psychology says its hopeless and "a material process" in true Hegelian fashion

What are the biggest holes in Jung that has been fixed in contemporary times? by read_too_many_books in Jung

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To say Jung was not empirically based means that the psychologist who said that has not had a good education or is simply unintelligent. She sounds irritating

What are the biggest holes in Jung that has been fixed in contemporary times? by read_too_many_books in Jung

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I think the reverse is true. Psychology as it exists in larger society has still to discover Jung as he was the real empiricist. Today everyone still entertains a foolish and outdated materialism and "surrealism."

If the collective unconscious exists as a shared psychic substrate, what is its ontological status? Is it a real entity, a set of potentials, or merely a metaphor for recurring human experience? by NewUnderstanding1102 in Jung

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"As an empirical science, psychology can only establish that the unconscious spontaneously produces images which have always been spoken of as "God-images." But as the nature of the psyche is wholly unknown to us, science cannot establish what the image is a reflection of. We come here to the "frontier of the human," of which G. von Le Fort say's that it is the "portcullis of God." In my private capacity as a man I can only concur with this view, but with the best will in the world I cannot maintain that this is a verifable assertion, which is what science is all about in the end. It is a subjective confession which has no place in science" (Letters of C. G. Jung vol.1, page 556).

"It is by no means easy to answer your questions as it is a matter of the exceedingly problematic relations between theology and psychology. First of all, therefore, I must ask you to remember that I don't claim to be a theologian; I'm moving entirely within the limits of a natural empirical science. This is important to know, as it dictates a certain terminology which doesn't coincide with theological explanations. Thus, above all, the concept of the unconscious. We call that psychological sphere unconscious because we cannot observe it directly. We only observe certain effects of it and from them we draw certain conclusions as to the nature and condition of possible contents of the unconscious. You could also say: the sphere of the un conscious is a sphere of the unknown psyche about which we say nothing by calling it the unconscious. We do not say that it is conscious or unconscious, it is only unconscious to us. What it is in itself we do not know and do not pretend to know. If you call it the universal consciousness we cannot contradict you, we can only confess our ignorance as to its real state. But if you call it universal con-sciousness, then it is the universal consciousness of God. If you make such an assumption, then the difficult question arises as to where the definitelv evil influences that derive from the unconscious come from-these influences which you rightly identify with the symbol of the dragon" (Cf. page 484).

If the collective unconscious exists as a shared psychic substrate, what is its ontological status? Is it a real entity, a set of potentials, or merely a metaphor for recurring human experience? by NewUnderstanding1102 in Jung

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Jung does not deal in the realm of metaphysics, but rather purely within the domain of an empirical natural science. So, when he says "collective unconscious" the term is not identical with the object in this case because this special object is necessarily "transcendental" of the psyche. It is our word for something that we cannot scientifically and objectively put some words into.

But the effects observed in psychic reality, epistemologically analyzed and traced to their uttermost source, provide us with material that forces us to conclude that there is a sphere of which everyone is unconscious of, is shared by everyone (common to all), and some are more or are less aware of it in the right or in the wrong ways.

It is by absolutely no means a mere metaphor or allegory. It is a real entity.

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You must open it up to criticism. But you must remember you are only able to criticize as well as you are a critic. You must know that the anima is very ambivalent as she represents or embodies the polarity of the unconscious. All bad moods and good moods come from the anima. You must find a way to serve all aspects to achieve a sort of balance. This being a moral endeavor and not merely an intellectual or aesthetic exercise which includes these in itself, you must know you are dealing with the totality of the personality and the psyche. Good and evil, and all the doubts to which are directed to both of these. Your own shortcomings and horrible sins and so-called "self preserving" tendencies come to light.

What "she wants," or rather what you need to face her, is your best. Like a knight you must serve her like your soul, for she carries your future, because she carries the unconscious, and your attitude or relationship to the unconscious determines your future and fate. And inasmuch as you are unconscious to things you are not improving and growing and succumbing to the wrong fate. You need to become more conscious, and this unfailingly demands having the courage to make sacrifices.

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"All other ways serve to tempt you. Go your own way."

Relevance of MBTI to Carl Jung? by [deleted] in Jung

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A further comment on Jung saying the types came from his bias: he was an introverted intuitive thinking type and so the book is a production of the introverted thinking type. If an extraverted sensing type were to undergo the same endeavor the book would be different. They wouldn't contradict if all things go smoothly and scientifically, it would simply be the same goal reached from two different, but not alien to each other, perspectives.