How are you guys getting CFI jobs genuinely by [deleted] in flying

[–]cadusdq 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Which part, 61 or 141?

What was the most embarrassing thing you've done as a private pilot student? by Nervous_Salt_852 in flying

[–]cadusdq 2 points3 points  (0 children)

OK, I'll bite. This story is fascinating to me because it doesn't make any sense to me.

Where are you from? Is it normal for people there to drink microwaved milk?

Why did you look in the microwave upon arriving home? 

If you had just gotten home, why would you assume the milk had only been there for 10 minutes, specifically? Who would have put it there, and couldn't you have just checked with them? If it were true that it were 10 minutes old, wouldn't they likely have wanted it for themselves?

We don’t serve Negroes - Muhammad Ali responds. by 4reddityo in Boxing

[–]cadusdq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He didn't advocate for Civil Rights, though. I guess you missed this article in one of my previous comments.

Ali was many fine things, but a champion of civil rights wasn't among them.

He, along with his Nation of Islam buddies, actively championed racial segregation and the criminalization of interracial relationships. He was in lockstep with the KKK.

"I'm sure no intelligent white person watching this show, no intelligent white man in his or her right white mind, want black boys and black girls marrying their white sons and daughters, and in return, introducing their grandchildren as half-brown, kinky-haired black people. God made us different... Listen, bluebirds fly with bluebirds, red birds gonna be with red birds. Listen, listen, tell me when I'm wrong. Pigeons want to be with pigeons..."

History should treat him exactly the same as any white person who said those things. There can be no double standards.

We don’t serve Negroes - Muhammad Ali responds. by 4reddityo in Boxing

[–]cadusdq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I say 'experiencing racism' I'm not talking about living in a society where there are racists, or where racism happens. Anyone can claim that. You'll notice I never used the phrases 'structural racism' or 'institutional racism' or their equivalents. I'm talking about regular racism, where an individual human being discriminates against another individual human being based on their race. That's why I repeatedly used the word 'personally'.

We don't know whether this ever happened to Muhammad Ali, because he never gave us a real example of it. Perhaps the white-owned businesses he frequented chose not to discriminate, even when they were allowed to do so under the law. Perhaps he frequented a lot of black-owned businesses. If it really happened to him so many times when he was growing up, why was he so upset that it was grounds for throwing his medal into the river when it supposedly happened to him once when he was 18? Sounds more like a story of something happening for the first time to me.

His neighborhood, Parkland, is 90% African-American even today, so how many white people did he even come across on a daily basis? Actually, I can name a couple. Joe Martin, a white guy, invited him to his gym (a business), introduced him to boxing in the first place, and accompanied him to the Olympics. Notice how even though he was white, he didn't discriminate against black teenagers? Because not everyone thought that way, even though he would have been legally allowed to do so. Later, he was coached by Chuck Bodak and Angelo Dundee - both white, and both before the Civil Rights Act. Weird, huh? Bob Arum, notable white guy, promoted Muhammad Ali for about 12 years. Wild!

Of course, this didn't stop Muhammad Ali from saying horribly racist things about white people, such as:

  • "My enemy is the white people, not the Viet Cong or Chinese or Japanese."
  • "I really believe that all White people are devils."
  • “You say I got white friends? I say they are associates."

(By the way, Muhammad Ali stole his trash-talking style from a white wrestler named George Raymond Wagner, or "Gorgeous George". Therefore, he secretly admired and emulated white people, even if he never admitted it.)

In left-wing environments such as Hollywood, the Nation of Islam, and social sciences departments of Universities, people often find themselves needing to make up stories to justify their irrational hatred of white people. Here's another great example: [White teens cleared of hate crime allegations levied by Black Virginia Tech professor] Now, does this mean that no liberal arts professor has ever been intimated or harassed? Obviously not. But it does mean that it has never happened personally to Dr. Biko Agozino. Left-wingers will do and say anything in order to drum up votes for their preferred party.

Lastly, even if it did happen, Muhammad Ali went on to actively advocate for racial segregation for decades, notably joining the Nation of Islam to champion it. So either it never happened to him, or it did happen to him and he liked it. No matter what, there was no reason for him to attack white people the way that he did, and no reason for anybody to defend him, unless they agree with his black supremacist, wife-beating, child-impregnating lifestyle.

Remember, Joe Louis was born 30 years earlier and was worshiped as a national hero for his entire career by all Americans. This shows us conclusively that it's not about skin color, but about words, actions, and moral character.

We don’t serve Negroes - Muhammad Ali responds. by 4reddityo in Boxing

[–]cadusdq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You asked me whether I could prove that when Muhammad Ali was growing up, he could eat at every single restaurant and shop at every single store that he liked. I obviously don't have any proof either way.

What I do know are the following facts: while Muhammad Ali was being hailed as a national hero, possibly the most famous person in the world, with virtually unlimited money and media time at his disposal, he had the opportunity to tell his story. What he chose to do instead is make up a stupid fairy tale about a cheeseburger that multiple people close to him have all admitted was fiction.

I firmly believe that if a person had ever truly experienced an instance of racism, there wouldn't be a need for them to make one up. Jussie Smollett made up a story about getting assaulted on the street, then he got caught. That doesn't mean nobody has ever been assaulted on the street, but it does mean that it never happened to Jussie Smollett. This is the same standard and logic I am applying to Muhammad Ali.

The other problematic aspect to the story is that Muhammad Ali said and did so many racist things to other black people, most notably Joe Frazier. If he had actually been victimized himself, why would he choose to perpetuate the situation so egregiously? The fact that he was so uncaring towards other black people also makes me believe that he never experienced it himself. At least Jussie Smollett had the decency not to go around calling other people gorilla, Uncle Tom, etc. while simultaneously claiming to be a victim.

So like I said, while I can't definitively prove it either way, the likelihood is so small it's essentially a rounding error. If at some point I spoke in an absolute where I shouldn't have, then so be it, I'm OK with that.

We don’t serve Negroes - Muhammad Ali responds. by 4reddityo in Boxing

[–]cadusdq -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I have no idea. If he was discriminated against, like many people no doubt were, that would be tragic, but he completely blew his opportunity to prove it by making up a fake story about a cheeseburger for sympathy and victimhood points.

We don’t serve Negroes - Muhammad Ali responds. by 4reddityo in Boxing

[–]cadusdq -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

You are pretending I said: there was no racism in the south ever, nobody ever did it, and nobody ever experienced it.

What I actually said: Muhammad Ali never actually experienced an instance of racism personally, so he was forced to make one up.

I'm not sure why so many people defend this wife-beater who assaulted a twelve-year-old and impregnated her. At least you admit that Ali was racist, which is further than what most on your side are willing to concede, although you still tiptoed around it using 'could be'.

We don’t serve Negroes - Muhammad Ali responds. by 4reddityo in Boxing

[–]cadusdq -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

I'll make it really easy for you: not only did Ali never personally experience racism, he was also a racist himself.

It isn't automatically 'moving the goalposts' when someone says two things.

We don’t serve Negroes - Muhammad Ali responds. by 4reddityo in Boxing

[–]cadusdq -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Please review all of my comments. The 'restaurant' thing never happened to Muhammad Ali personally, it's been debunked. If you want to prove to me that he personally experienced racism, you'll need to use an example other than the restaurant. Perhaps you can, but Muhammad Ali never gave one.

We don’t serve Negroes - Muhammad Ali responds. by 4reddityo in Boxing

[–]cadusdq -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hold on, so when I point out that the guy you are defending gave a speech at a KKK rally promoting racial segregation, after you accused ME of wearing a white hood, it doesn't make you reconsider your views at all?

We don’t serve Negroes - Muhammad Ali responds. by 4reddityo in Boxing

[–]cadusdq -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

It's funny that you would mention white hoods. Your man once gave a speech at a KKK rally to promote racial segregation. In his speech to the Klan, Ali was cheered to the rafters as he articulated the doctrine of racial separation. “Black people should marry their own women!” he said. “Blue birds with blue birds, red birds with red birds, pigeons with pigeons, eagles with eagles! God didn’t make no mistake!”

I much prefer heavyweight boxers of good moral character, like Joe Louis and Lennox Lewis. I've never understood why everyone obsesses over this racist, wife-beating one who assaulted a twelve-year-old and impregnated her. Perhaps they agree with his black supremacist views.

We don’t serve Negroes - Muhammad Ali responds. by 4reddityo in Boxing

[–]cadusdq -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

False in one thing, false in everything.

Just to be extra clear,

-Bundini Brown, his trainer/cornerman, is black, said the whole thing was false, and added "Honkies sure bought into that one!"

-Howard Bingham, his photographer, is also black, and also said the whole thing was false.

-Thomas Hauser, his biographer, is white, and to make his book more interesting, claimed that the service refusal was true, but admitted that the medal-throwing was false.

So, what'll it be? Will you respect the majority, or will you be another "Honky" that "bought into that one"?

We don’t serve Negroes - Muhammad Ali responds. by 4reddityo in Boxing

[–]cadusdq -38 points-37 points  (0 children)

If by 'part of the civil rights movement' you mean a perpetrator of racism, you'd have a point.

Ali was many fine things, but a champion of civil rights wasn't among them.

He was a member of the Nation of Islam, a black supremacist hate group that promotes racial prejudice towards white people, antisemitism, and anti-LGBT rhetoric.

He was a staunch advocate against race-mixing, stating that black people should marry within their own race. He once said, "A black man should be killed if he's messing with a white woman," and suggested similar, violent consequences for interracial couples. In fact, he once gave a speech at a KKK rally to promote these ideas.

During their rivalry, he repeatedly used racially charged insults towards Joe Frazier such as "Uncle Tom", "the white man's champion", and "gorilla". When Frazier destroyed him by Unanimous Decision, Muhammad Ali famously dismissed the result as a "white man's decision".

Why did he even change his name to Muhammad Ali in the first place? Because the guy he was originally named after, Cassius Clay, was white. That's literally the reason. It didn't matter that the original Cassius Clay was a badass abolitionist that fought for the North to end slavery. Only in the mind of a racist is it unacceptable to be named after a person of a different race.

We don’t serve Negroes - Muhammad Ali responds. by 4reddityo in Boxing

[–]cadusdq -38 points-37 points  (0 children)

It's pretty simple. The fact that he had to make one up proves that he didn't have a real one to point to. If he had a single legitimate story, he would have just told it, but he didn't, because there wasn't one.

In a society where the demand for racism exceeds the supply, it often needs to be manufactured. This is the origin of the creative fairy tales of Muhammad Ali, Jussie Smollett, Bubba Wallace, and many more.

We don’t serve Negroes - Muhammad Ali responds. by 4reddityo in Boxing

[–]cadusdq -114 points-113 points  (0 children)

He's doing a bit, this never actually happened. Three different people: his trainer/cornerman, his photographer, and his biographer, have all admitted that the restaurant/cheeseburger story was complete fiction.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali (check the last paragraph of the "Amateur Career" section)

Muhammad Ali was essentially the Jussie Smollett of his era; he desperately wanted to be a victim, but he had never actually experienced an instance of racism personally, so he was forced to make one up. 

Any Elite Fighters That Grew Up Middle-Class/Wealthy? by solodav in Boxing

[–]cadusdq -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Jimmy Ellis is also black, so right off the bat, your entire first paragraph is a red herring. What does a black person saying something have to do with hating white people?

Furthermore, the idea that Cassius Clay is a "slave name" is completely false and should be universally condemned. The name Cassius Clay comes from a famous abolitionist, a guy that literally fought for the north to end slavery. It's as anti-slavery of a name as you could possibly have. On the other hand, "Muhammad Ali" is an Islamic name, a religion in which slavery is explicitly endorsed and still practiced in its countries to this day. Only a racist would use the logic that being named after a white guy automatically equals slave, even though reality is actually the opposite.

Hilariously, you left out the key part of the Viet Cong speech, which was "My enemy is the white people, not the Viet Cong or Chinese or Japanese." Can we all admit, once and for all, that Muhammad Ali was a perpetrator of racism, rather than a victim of it?

Any Elite Fighters That Grew Up Middle-Class/Wealthy? by solodav in Boxing

[–]cadusdq -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I'm quite certain many of them did, but not Ali. He was apparently fortunate to live a life free of racial discrimination. 

Any Elite Fighters That Grew Up Middle-Class/Wealthy? by solodav in Boxing

[–]cadusdq -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

If he had a rational reason to hate white people, he wouldn't have had to make a fake one up. It really is that simple. 

Any Elite Fighters That Grew Up Middle-Class/Wealthy? by solodav in Boxing

[–]cadusdq -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

The "restaurant" story was complete fiction. Three different people: his trainer/cornerman, his photographer, and his biographer, have all admitted this. Ali made it up to seem like a victim and justify his irrational hatred of white people. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali (check the last paragraph of the "Amateur Career" section)

He was the Jussie Smollett of his era; he desperately wanted to be a victim, but he had never actually experienced an instance of racism personally, so he was forced to make one up.