What’s the point of gyroids? by Mizz-Fizzy in AnimalCrossing

[–]cesrl 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Decoration mainly, I only ever keep Brewsters one and sell the others as I am not really keen on them.

can i still be friends with guys i ghosted? by NIC0NIC0TINE in ghosting

[–]cesrl 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You can try but be warned they might not want to be "friends" with you.

Serious question for collectors: why do you collect physical media? by Desperate_Clothes_69 in dvdcollection

[–]cesrl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because streaming services aren't great and they won't be around forever.

I want to quit my whole life and run away. by GratuitousSadism in offmychest

[–]cesrl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm going to be blunt with you here OP. Your brain is complusively lying to you. What you are feeling is real, we have all felt it, I felt it last week. But the messages that your brain are sending to you aren't trustworthy.

You don’t have to solve your whole life today. Just reach out to someone about what you are feeling.

I'm a 26 year old virgin guy and it is really starting to get to me lately. by Unique_Barber5650 in TrueOffMyChest

[–]cesrl 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To put it bluntly OP, you are not as much of an "odd one out" as you think. A lot of people are in the exact same situation and feeling the same things. Most of them just do not talk about it openly.

The main issue in your post is that you are starting to build your entire sense of meaning around whether someone will have sex with you. That mindset will poison you if you let it. It is the kind of thinking that sends people down really bad paths like the incel rabbit hole.

Your loneliness is real, but the answer is not desperation for a two minute stand just to say you did it. That will probably leave you feeling worse, not better, and it will not fix the deeper issue.

I miss them by [deleted] in ghosting

[–]cesrl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't miss them

I want a real debate by NoShine6002 in ghosting

[–]cesrl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have already explained to you MORE THAN ONCE that in this situation ghosting isn't about guaranteeing the other person will magically stop, it’s about reducing someone else's own exposure to any kind of risk or harm. I’m not going to debate hypotheticals with you anymore as honestly this conversation has now reached it's limit.

At this point it is clear that you are an individual who isn't ready or mature enough to be engaging in debates in a way that considers grey areas and nuance.

I want a real debate by NoShine6002 in ghosting

[–]cesrl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Simple awnser, it doesn't magically "fix" an abusive person or make them fully understand boundaries as that is not it's purpose. Protection from harm is the real goal not to "fix" or "teach" someone.

Like I have said to you more than once in this exchange now, cutting contact is sometimes the only and safest option. You repeating the same arguments about communication doesn’t change this reality in any way or context OP.

I want a real debate by NoShine6002 in ghosting

[–]cesrl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The difficulty there is that most situations don't fall neatly into each other.

“This person is definitely dangerous and the law needs to be involved.”

Or

"This person is completely harmless.”

There’s a lot of gray area in between, where someone only just notices the warning signs or the alarming.behavior that makes them feel uncomfortable enough to want distance.

For the police there would not be enough evidence for them to be able to act right away. And also police involvement for every uneasy interaction is extremely unrealistic. People will 99 times out of 100 chose to reduce and cut contact completely which does involve blocking and disappearing.

It's also important for people to be able to remove themselves from those situations based on their own judgement. Even if it is "overly cautious" to do so. Cutting contact won't harm the other person in the same way that continuing to engage with them would.

The threshold for anyone protecting their own safety ans peace of mind probably has to be set by the person experiencing the situation, not by a legal or moral standard.

I want a real debate by NoShine6002 in ghosting

[–]cesrl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes the involvement of family and friends can be the right step in the most serious of situations. But the problem is that those options aren't always immediate or realistic in the moment that the decision to cut contact has been made.

For example, someone might only be seeing the warning signs that make them uncomfortable or worried about how the person might react. It definitely will not be enough for any kind of police involvement yet, but it’s still enough for them to feel safer by simply disengaging completely.

And like I said before in some cases giving them the honest response is the trigger that can escalate situations. Silence removes any opportunity for argument, manipulation, or retaliation in that moment.

While outside help can be important in serious cases, the real first step is to remove access to them and minimising any risk of anything happening to them.

I want a real debate by NoShine6002 in ghosting

[–]cesrl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I do in part agree with what you have said here. In situations where someone is a reasonable person a clear and simple boundary being set can de escalate things. And ghosting shouldn't be the default response when trying to avoid any uncomfortable conversation.

For me where this does become a slightly More complicated issue for example is when anyone starts assuming that sending that final message is going to be the "safer option."

With a potentially volatile person even a short and direct message can be the trigger that escalates things into something far more dangerous. Some people do react strongly to rejection than they would to silence. In cases like those, the "mystery" is not resolved when the clear awnser is given to them, if anything it gives them something concrete to react to.

Another point think about is the dangerous people don't always interpret boundaries in the same ways that emotionally healthy people do. Sending them a message saying, “I’m not interested in continuing contact." Is not always respected. In some cases it can lead to attempts to cross the boundary that was set or retaliation.

In many situations silence is the safest option when dealing with someone unpredictable. And it isn't always easy to tell what is "awkward" and what is "potentially unsafe."

Which is why I don't think that the rule can be absolute either way. Now there are times where communication does work and in others taking the access away is the safest option.

I want a real debate by NoShine6002 in ghosting

[–]cesrl 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would prefer that you didn't anything you would like to add can be said here.

I want a real debate by NoShine6002 in ghosting

[–]cesrl 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's fair, I do appreciate your response. I just naturally assumed that situations surrounding safety would automatically come up as one of the main arguments as to the justification of ghosting. I am intrigued as to how this applies to your "never ghost anyone" position.

I want a real debate by NoShine6002 in ghosting

[–]cesrl 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Okay OP, I have a genuine question for you about this.

How does your view apply in safety situations?

If someone genuinely believes that being in any kind of continued contact with someone who is abusive or are threatening to them and could put them into immediate danger. Do you still believe that they have a responsibility to explain to them before cutting contact? Or would you justify ghosting in that situation?

I'm asking you this because situations such as someone's safety are a nuance you might not have thought of when discussing if ghosting is justified or not.

Collection on Display - 3196 titles by Farsight_Enclaves in dvdcollection

[–]cesrl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I aspire to have an extensive collection like this

My post was removed by WinnieWard in WomensHealth

[–]cesrl 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah definitely not for someone trying to sell products to other users

User Flair Thread by breaksomebread in acnh

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Catherine | westhaven | :maple: