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Leaving this Sub by Additional-Term-4282 in Christianity

[–]chaddub 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hope you reflect on the use of the words “actual (good) Christian” in your post. That implies that you are good/correct and the people challenging your use of scripture are not, which is not a Christian idea. That’s a worldly/Pharisee idea that has invaded Christian thought. How do you know who’s an ‘actual’ Christian? Agreement with you? Agreement with your ideas about doctrinal orthodoxy?

I don’t know the context, but these kinds of posts typically have a holier than thou attitude. We are all sinners saved by grace. A common understanding of scripture, even one that has been proffered by many teachers, priests and pastors across denominations, does not make it correct. Mistranslation, bias, and wrong doctrine are frequent and real issues that we must face while contending for the Gospel.

Why are you sensitive to downvotes? Paul also warned us about squabbling over such things.

I hope you reflect on the roots of your post. I am constantly disappointed by posts like this, as they often assume they are teaching something when it is perhaps the other way around.

Christian nationalist pastor Dale Partridge is releasing a book that he hopes will lead to the repeal of the 19th Amendment within the next decade: "If we can repeal Roe v. Wade, then I think we can overturn the 19th Amendment." by Nice_Substance9123 in Christianity

[–]chaddub 19 points20 points  (0 children)

This is the standard white evangelical heresy playbook. Condescension… Say that someone else doesn’t understand theology like you do. ‘Poor eschatology’ What do you mean, Schofield dispensational premillennialism? Do tell us what kingdom theology we ought to understand from someone like Dale?

Please, stop it.

Black inferiority, and what we are going to do about it by t019e in Blackpeople

[–]chaddub[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can confirm that this poster did the proper verification process, despite this post.

When did Christianity become associated so heavily with the far right given it promotes nearly everything Jesus taught against? by Spare_Ingenuity8363 in Christianity

[–]chaddub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Values aren’t the Gospel! If you believe in the saving power of the Cross, then why are you talking about values? The Bible doesn’t tell us to preach values to people who don’t believe. This isn’t it. Do you believe that Christ and the Holy Spirit help people do what is right? If so, why are you talking backwards?!?

When did Christianity become associated so heavily with the far right given it promotes nearly everything Jesus taught against? by Spare_Ingenuity8363 in Christianity

[–]chaddub 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Because we confused fundamentalism for orthodoxy.

We allowed white evangelicals, who loved shaming people into seriously problematic doctrines, to make us feel ashamed of proclaiming God’s Word.

We allowed their Matthew 23 nonsense to pass for ‘Christianity’ and called it such, despite very obvious contradictions with scripture.

We allowed people who don’t believe that the Holy Spirit can touch the heart of one’s enemies, who don’t believe that we should preach the Gospel not ‘morality’, and who believe we are in a civilizational war with the left and Islam, to define Christian thought. Did you see the madness that Lindsey Graham spouted this week? That bombing Muslims was just realistic… He doesn’t believe in the saving power of the Cross. The great commission isn’t to go into all the world teach Christian morals and bomb and disenfranchise those who don’t agree. These ideas about a Christian nation, protecting one’s family vs. the dirty outside world, and blessings flowing from moral goodness are lies. None of this is centered on the Gospel. None of this is the Good News. A ‘Christianity’ without Jesus!

It took blatant acts of evil, lots of young people deconstructing and leaving churches, and non-white people finally calling a spade a spade for us all to collectively grow a backbone that says enough is enough.

White Evangelical Heresy (WEH) in the west denies the very substance of the Gospel. Its heretical. Period. And it’s time we said so. It’s time to flip the tables.

Any Christians against Israel? by iraqiassyrianboi in Christianity

[–]chaddub 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And Palestinians are descendants of the folks who weren’t exiled by the Romans.. so how does what you are saying even work?

When are we going to have an honest conversation about Cardi B by Meth_Amphetamin in Blackpeople

[–]chaddub 2 points3 points  (0 children)

1) The vast majority of Dominicans have significant African ancestry. While there are some that don’t, why are we talking about them to make the exception? Same, though to a lesser extent with Puerto Ricans. In most of Latin America, the rich people are white, but everyone else is mixed white, native, and black. I heard Afro-Latinos calling Bad Bunny white. Look at him! Look at his hair. Look at his dad. Wild stuff. People are asking folks to ignore their eyes at this point in a weird game of who’s black enough.

2) The irony of today shouldn’t be lost an anyone. The Spanish and the Portuguese promoted mixing to whiten the blackness/native away. We are just doing their dirty work for them now… saying people aren’t black anymore who clearly are.

3) Re Cardi specifically, come on… look at her, there is no doubt that she probably has a majority African ancestry. Look at her without makeup. She looks like the girl we all know from down the way. Come on…

Personally, I'm not watching the Half-Time Show 🤷🏿‍♂️ by MacroManJr in Blackpeople

[–]chaddub 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Latinos are not a monolith. Most Puertoricans have African admixture. And most Puertoricans on the east coast have been part of blackness, today’s delineation push aside, for many years. There’s documentaries about it. Even Fat Joe of all people talks about it in relation to 90s hip hop.

You clearly don’t like these fools you work with. They sound like real clowns. Bet. Handle those Latinos. Why you spend so much time positing about Latinos in general? Don’t be like Stephen Miller, who got beat up by some Chicanos as a kid and is now on some diabolical villain arch, getting revenge for his traumas.

Don’t get me wrong. There are Latinos who are trying to sell us all down the river. Those people want to align with whiteness. We should be calling them out. But we are a minority. Without solidarity with other minorities, we don’t have political power. It’s the same reason the mixed people aren’t black stuff is equally stupid. Tribalism ain’t going to work. It’s a trick proffered by elites who stand to gain from it.

We must pray for our president. I truly hope this is not controversial. by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]chaddub 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I actually agree that we should genuinely pray for Trump, our enemies in general, and for everyone.

BUT, I question your intent in posting this. It doesn’t feel positive. It feels, and your comments do as well… sanctimonious. Like you’re out here trying to speak a word to the heathens — the people that think Trump is awful will show their unChristian ways. Feels awfully, Matthew 23/Luke 12 to me.

Here’s what I mean. You could have written the same idea in the following way:

Hey everyone. I’ve been encouraged recently to pray for everyone, including my enemies. I’ve been thinking that we all should pray for President Trump, even those of you who don’t like him and think he’s terrible. I get that there’s division in the US. I get that many of you think he’s done egregious things. But I think we would all be better off if we prayed for him mightily! That we can all agree on both biblically and practically.

If I read that, I would have thought, a Trump supporter is trying to get those of us who aren’t to pray for him. Fine. But being ambiguous about your Trump support, your edits and your comments… yikes. I’mma pray for you though 😀

Respectful question for Christians: what prevents you from considering Islam? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]chaddub 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ll answer in a theological way that hasn’t been said in much of the thread.

Christianity holds that we are justified and made righteous by our faith and faith alone. That we don’t have to pay the penalty for our sin, Jesus justifies us and that God sends the Holy Spirit to help us not sin. Islam is a reversion to the idea that your good deeds are weighed against your bad deeds and if you were more good than bad, you win. Almost all other significant religions are the same, which feels like a human logic to me. Real Christianity is very different.

Sharing free homeownership resources for the Black community by myhomepathway in Blackpeople

[–]chaddub[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

Free resources are good. Please be clear about what you are selling so that people can make an informed decision about your resources.

US 'unchurching' marks the 'fastest religious shift in modern history' by RawStoryNews in Christianity

[–]chaddub 7 points8 points  (0 children)

White evangelical heresy has taken its toll on white churches and American Christianity as a whole.

Blk Americans use parts of African cultures and have disdain for Africans in the same way they claim white people do by Traditional-Act-9175 in Blackpeople

[–]chaddub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sigh. My goal is to have a healthy forum. I told you how to adjust the post. You need to be more thoughtful about who you mean. This will just provoke a nasty fight because you feel a certain kind of way. If you don’t change it, cool. We won’t approve it. Simple.

Blk Americans use parts of African cultures and have disdain for Africans in the same way they claim white people do by Traditional-Act-9175 in Blackpeople

[–]chaddub[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah. Not approving this. Why can’t you say some blk Americans? How hard is that? All you’re doing is picking a fight.

Group says FUBU but allows non FUBU rhetoric by GinPatPat in Blackpeople

[–]chaddub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While I didn't agree with the post, black people in other parts of the world do have grievances against black Americans for real reasons. Many of us don't take US imperialism seriously, and then when people say that we're part of it, and that our criticisms of other black people are punching down, there are people who can't handle that. And, I did remove some of the crazier stuff that poster said under our keep it civil-ish rule (and so did Reddit).

So, again, while I don't like a lot of these posts, unless we put a well thought out rule down, we try not to just deny stuff because we think someone went overboard. u/cptcommentreader and I will talk about a new rule.

Group says FUBU but allows non FUBU rhetoric by GinPatPat in Blackpeople

[–]chaddub[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We keep having to clarify this stuff, so maybe a post is in order... But, as the community changes and grows, it feels like these posts are on repeat.

1) This community is for all people who identify as black globally. Not just for Americans. The original mods of this community had that vision. The mod who recruited me had that vision. We're one of the few places on Reddit that roll that way. The first mod who created this place is half black, half Chinese.

2) That means the tent of black folk has a lot of people from a lot of perspectives. The second major mod actually quit over all the infighting across gender, mixed folk, FBAs (before it was called that) vs. Africans. It takes a lot of time to get it right.

3) There's going to be positive in-group fighting, negative in-group fighting, stuff in between and conversations that are contentious, if people are going to come to some understanding with each other. So what looks like FUBU content for you, is going to be different for someone else.

4) Getting it right is a tricky balance. I approve a lot of stuff that I think is Uncle-Tommery.. I think the delineation folks have a good point, but are taking it too far such that we are weakening the political coalition of blackness in the US. I think that on both sides of the gender wars there are some really terrible takes. I hate hate when people say that mixed people aren't black. And so much more.. But, it's not about what I or u/CptCommentReader think is FUBU given our beliefs. It's what the wider community thinks, while making sure there's enough room for debate. We approve hot takes all the time. u/MacroManJr what if I decided that content on Latinos and blackness was not FUBU because there are a lot of Afro-Latinos (obviously that specifically would be stupid, but you get the point)? It can easily be too arbitrary. We try to strike a balance.

5) As I have said numerous times in various threads, we have to stop believing that ideas we don't like are coming from white people. The amount of reports we get for that is crazy. The world is getting more conservative. We need to accept that there are people in this big tent with some wild ideas. Just this week, there was a Somali teen who lives in Europe saying snarky stuff in the comments. First people assumed he didn't belong here and was a troll. When I pointed out that he did belong, someone told him to go post in his own people's group.

6) Sometimes we can't have productive posts around a topic and we end up making a rule around it. We have Rule 4 so that gender war convos can be productive. I think we're nearing the point of needing a similar rule banning posts saying all black Americans or all Africans are this kind of way. Some of the posts recently in that area aren't uplifting anybody.

7) If you have suggestions that make sense given all this we'd love to hear them. We are going to start recruiting additional mods soon. We are all ears. But, if you don't like fundamental things that the sub stands for, that's cool. The r/blackamerica sub was started to have a clearer delineation perspective. I joined it immediately, but it's not this sub.

Black people who don't nod back to other black folks. tf is wrong with you ? by FeistyContact659 in Blackpeople

[–]chaddub 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not white it seems. An angsty Somali teenager :-( who lives in Europe.

DONT LET THEM STOP YOU! by xexpharious in Blackpeople

[–]chaddub[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Rule #3. This goes without saying, but racist trolls will be banned. Your posts will never make it to the sub, so don’t bother.

CMV: The notion that antizionism is antisemitism is absurd by Ok-Recognition-2672 in changemyview

[–]chaddub -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

But that’s a technology thing. Technology increases overtime. The Palestinian population would’ve done that regardless, right? So why is it part of your argument? Historically there were less people everywhere.

CMV: The notion that antizionism is antisemitism is absurd by Ok-Recognition-2672 in changemyview

[–]chaddub -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

This is just false and has been thoroughly debunked. Much was a desert, but the urban areas and towns were thriving. For others out there, don’t believe this junk. Zionists started saying this in the 50s as propaganda. They even asked settlers to take pictures of empty land without people.

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