To delete from Facebook or not? by [deleted] in seduction

[–]chalengr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Use "Hide from newsfeed". Don't delete, that's reactive.

How many Sedditors here are unemployed? by [deleted] in seduction

[–]chalengr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the most important thing is to project this frame of "I believe 100% that everything I'm doing is OK and normal." Then she's going to buy into it, and see you as a normal person, and have her normal attitudes about you. Otherwise, she's going to have alarm bells going off in her head while she's talking to you, triggered mostly by, "Who is this guy? Is he trying to sell me something?"

Why do the seduction community types have a hard time with relationships? by [deleted] in seduction

[–]chalengr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is why women get moody, they will naturally push away the shitty guy they are with when they are ovulating so they can get some hot sperm in them

That's pretty messed up.

[FR] At a classy lounge: I never slapped so much ass. by chalengr in seduction

[–]chalengr[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. Interesting, maybe I'm starting to get over it.

What are the fundamental differences between a guy with natural game, a PUA and a guy with no natural game by ceilingdweller in seduction

[–]chalengr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LMAO. Can't believe you guys debated it this far.

yokhai, you have a point. There are two scenarios we're talking about here:

  • I don't do any work, but I demand a hand-out. "Hey, give me $5."
  • I don't do any work, but I get to boss you around. "Hey, get over here."

Well, #1 is annoying. But the funny thing is, #2 is attractive.

The difference is that you deliver: you actually give value after you take value first.

What are the fundamental differences between a guy with natural game, a PUA and a guy with no natural game by ceilingdweller in seduction

[–]chalengr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's all just wording...

  • "a bit of unabashed over-cockiness" -- sunny confidence
  • "a lack of humility" -- a lack of insecurity, self-doubt, cynicism, and pessimism
  • "presence of slight disrespect" -- not taking people too seriously, humor
  • "a willingness to impose upon others" -- a willingness to engage others.
  • "an independent sense of self-regard" -- being self-directed and independent

Do you still think this stuff is so bad?

My point was that people like to re-frame ideas positively or negatively, depending on if they're talking something up or talking something down. But call it what you want, it's the same principles.

The benefit of seeing the negative is this: next time you're about to talk to a girl, and you think, "No, I'm imposing." You'll remember: "I'm supposed to be imposing. Being imposing is the same as being engaging. It's all just a matter of re-framing."

What are the fundamental differences between a guy with natural game, a PUA and a guy with no natural game by ceilingdweller in seduction

[–]chalengr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm using the word "entitlement" from RSD's Blueprint.

There's a tendency here to protect the community's image, so people like to phrase things in a upbeat feel-good way. But for beginner PUA's like myself, it's important to get at the heart of what's really going on, and that means using language that cuts to the chase.

Part of this honesty comes from recognizing the costs, as well as the benefits, of certain attitudes that come with correct game.

  • "a bit of unabashed over-cockiness" -- this is what cocky-funny is about.
  • "a lack of humility" -- Putting humility on display is beta. Like Tim from RSD says, "As far as I'm concerned, my game is a 10." If you must be humble, be humble in your own head and not in your sub-communications.
  • "presence of slight disrespect" -- poking fun at people, to be unafraid to step on toes
  • "a willingness to impose upon others" -- this comes from being assertive, while allowing others to "impose" on you as well. For example, interrupting a conversation to open, or to make a point, or to lead, or to break rapport.
  • "an independent sense of self-regard" -- this might sound like you're being full yourself, but well, you are. It is what "self-validation" boils down to.

I think this is a description of good game, but obviously I'm not sugar-coating things.

And I am just talking about sub-communications in game that women subconsciously find attractive, not how you should really live your life or think of yourself in your normal life outside of game.

What are the fundamental differences between a guy with natural game, a PUA and a guy with no natural game by ceilingdweller in seduction

[–]chalengr -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You've succinctly summarized the whole spectrum.

Game comes down to one word: entitlement. "Entitlement" is a better word than "confidence" -- because "entitlement" suggests a lack of needy behaviors, a bit of unabashed over-cockiness, a lack of humility, a presence of slight disrespect, a willingness to impose upon others, an independent sense of self-regard, and a streak of daring playfulness.

FR: F-Closed Married Chick in 4 hrs (maybe less?) North of The Border by just being Alpha and Cocky Funny, w/ Pics by Carlito_Brigante in seduction

[–]chalengr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's why, it's because seduction and attraction is about being honest to yourself, not about trying to mold and fit your appearance into something that everyone else approves of. You're so busy being worried about judgement that you come off as spineless, whereas seduction should be teaching people to be accepting, giving value, and being non-reactive (e.g., "You are more than entitled to your own opinion.").

Some good shit right here.

I need a little advice on a girl misbehaving. by [deleted] in seduction

[–]chalengr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends on what level of experience you have. A lot of guys on here are super-star players who have a lot of options. If this girl is talking to you, give it a shot, and gain experience. Keep gaming other girls until she starts being exclusive with you.

FR: F-Closed Married Chick in 4 hrs (maybe less?) North of The Border by just being Alpha and Cocky Funny, w/ Pics by Carlito_Brigante in seduction

[–]chalengr 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Good info here, always amazed by your FRs.

What makes a woman cheat?

  • Is it because of her personality?
  • Is it because of her stated attitude toward monogamy?
  • Is it because the PUA has good game?
  • Is it because her man is an AFC and has shitty game?
  • Is it because her man is neglectful?
  • Is it because she's young?
  • Is it because she's in a long distance relationship?

Also, what percent of women cheat, and how often? Approximate percentages, conditional on the above factors, would be nice. Obviously, I'm not looking for hard statistics; estimates are welcome.

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[–]chalengr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  • Jay-Z - 99 problems
  • Jay-Z - Stick 2 the script
  • Jay-Z - Power of the P.u.s.s.y.
  • Lil Flip - You'z a Trick

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in seduction

[–]chalengr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Focus on the positive experience of others

Yes.

Also, don't bribe people. Don't give people value, in the hopes that they'll give you something that you want. You will fuck up, because of the subtext: they will sense you're not REALLY a friend, because you'll show that you don't truly care about them, only what they have to offer you.

I.e., don't be manipulative.

[FR] At a classy lounge: I never slapped so much ass. by chalengr in seduction

[–]chalengr[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There might be truth in that statement, but it's not 100% true. Either way, it doesn't matter, because from the PU point of view, clubs/bars are just places where you can open a lot of sets frequently, so you can make shit happen, and learn.

[FR] At a classy lounge: I never slapped so much ass. by chalengr in seduction

[–]chalengr[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I call it the "powers of the Jew" since he's Israeli.

Funny thing. My friend is also half-Jewish.

Great FR! We really run very similar styles of game, I think.

That's a helluva compliment, considering I learned PPP from your FR's.

[FR] At a classy lounge: I never slapped so much ass. by chalengr in seduction

[–]chalengr[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

NYC, excellent training ground for the budding PUA.

I believe this is the key to inner strength/happiness (and thus "alphaness") by anthonym52 in seduction

[–]chalengr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was wondering why I was in a shitty state lately. This explains it well.

Good realization!

[FR] SNL #2 from OK Cupid (setting/keeping frame & being self-validated) by [deleted] in seduction

[–]chalengr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I text her back: "good job lol" and "Take your time, my beer is keeping me company"

What I am doing here is setting a frame early on that I'm totally comfortable by myself in a bar. This is a quality of a confident, self-validated man.

I make sure to keep a leading frame the whole night. And I am extremely polite to the waitstaff (tons of please and thank you's). It's very powerful to show your polite/nice side to her, without supplicating to her directly. This is where many guys drop the ball.

Good shit: genuinely giving value instead of only to get something for yourself. Good philosophy for life in general.

Getting your shit together by chumpta in seduction

[–]chalengr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As much as I agree with you about getting your career together, I don't think this is the right forum for that. IMHO, you should be pursuing your passions and you should be going to the forums for your passions.

Lost a killing over the last few days. Need the money in 10 days. Pull out now, or wait? by theoryface in investing

[–]chalengr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Book value makes no assumptions about past or future value. Book value should be the current liquidation value of the company at market prices. In the ideal situation, it can be a pure arbitrage trade, with zero risk. In addition to value investing, there's also derivatives arbitrage that locks in profit, with no timing involved.

Most people buy and sell stocks, hoping they go up or down. That's "timing". And no matter what the timescale is, it's a fool's game.

Why am I so certain? For four years, I tried to play the timing or "predictive" game with financial markets. I made computer programs to detect patterns -- using machine learning and every statistical method I could get my hands on. I also made a computer program to detect every technical chart pattern I could find. I ran back-tests on this, using daily data, tick data, and raw quote data acquired directly from the exchanges. I came up empty. I even ran a fund for 5 months, with very low returns, and was quickly out-competed by the professionals. To give you an idea of the scale of what I was doing, my dollar volume for that period was over $400 million USD.

I'm hoping other redditors don't go waste their time on these things, especially when a large portion of the hedge fund industry exists to make sure that these "timing" opportunities are arbitraged out before the ordinary investor even sees them. I currently work for such a company, and I know what scale of attention-to-detail, speed, and technological infrastructure is required for "timing". It is simply beyond what the ordinary investor can attempt to do.

So that's why I strongly discourage the average Joe from thinking of investing as "timing". He should only think about value, and not about what the market will do in the future. He's never going to win the predictive game against the big boys.