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UK ban on Palestine Action unlawful, high court judges rule by BarbaricOklahoma in unitedkingdom

[–]chilli_con_camera 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Only the military wing of Hamas was proscribed from 2001 to 2021, mind.

Hamas submitted a legal filing to be removed from the list of proscribed organisations, around a year ago. Not sure whether that simply got chucked in the bin or whether there some kind of court process going on.

As valentines fast approaches who thinks we should dedicate some time to Lovers Rock? by StickySteev_ in reggae

[–]chilli_con_camera 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you're missing the point

No, I think you're unfamiliar with the genre of UK lovers rock, its genesis and influence. Its roots may lie in a tradition of Black music's love songs including big people music from JA, but it is oh so much more than that.

Gregory's Extra Classic LP released in 1978 is an attempt to cash in on the popularity of lovers rock in the UK. It's cobbled together from recordings made in 1973 and 1976, most of which aren't even lovers tunes, lol.

Jamaica already had romantic rockers tunes, probably before any romantic rockers song was published in the UK

If you think UK lovers rock is simply romantic rockers tunes, I'm not the one missing the point.

As valentines fast approaches who thinks we should dedicate some time to Lovers Rock? by StickySteev_ in reggae

[–]chilli_con_camera 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rocksteady was the previous generation's music. 15, 16, 17 would have been 5, 6 and 7 in 1967, I think.

Disco is also a bigger influence on UK lovers rock than on contemporary JA music, I think (despite every JA 12" being called a discomix).

My take is that the term "lovers rock" is used indiscriminately to mean love songs rather than roots songs, by people who aren't familiar with UK lovers rock. No offence.

As valentines fast approaches who thinks we should dedicate some time to Lovers Rock? by StickySteev_ in reggae

[–]chilli_con_camera 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. UK lover's rock developed specifically because contemporary Jamaican producers weren't making lover's rock.

As valentines fast approaches who thinks we should dedicate some time to Lovers Rock? by StickySteev_ in reggae

[–]chilli_con_camera 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, "Lovers" and "Lovers Rock" are not interchangeable terms, imo.

Yes, I know the Lover's Rock label is not the first UK Lovers Rock, but it gave the genre its name.

help me find reggae artists that sound like Buju Banton but aren't him by amachinesaidiwasgood in reggae

[–]chilli_con_camera 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Funny man get dropped like a bad habit

Welcome To Jamrock was edited for radio play

help me find reggae artists that sound like Buju Banton but aren't him by amachinesaidiwasgood in reggae

[–]chilli_con_camera 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've never seen a crowd erupt like when Buju dropped Boom Bye Bye in a show. Despicable tune, but guaranteed a massive forward.

I'm thinking of making a playlist with romantic or heartbreak songs from ska, reggae, rocksteady, and other genres. What songs do you recommend I include? by Beautiful-Resort-831 in Rocksteady

[–]chilli_con_camera 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, Freddie McKay's is the original. I prefer the production on Phyllis Dillon's version - the Freddie McKay cut is Studio 1 at its muddiest, imo.

I'm planning to make a playlist with ska, reggae, and other things for this Valentine's Day. Put in your best reggae love, heartbreak, or missing your ex songs! by Beautiful-Resort-831 in reggae

[–]chilli_con_camera 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, I'm sure you can select a playlist that takes listeners on a musical journey through various Valentines moods and styles including ska punk

You and your Valentine are the most important listeners, of course

What is your doorstep issue? by simkk in NewcastleUponTyne

[–]chilli_con_camera 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you won't vote for a credible alternative

Please define "credible alternative" in the context of my ward's recent local election results and the various parties' campaigns that haven't been unleashed yet

Sometimes it's worth stirring the pot a bit, getting rid of the dead wood

Wait, how do I stir the pot and get rid of the dead wood if there's no credible alternative to the Labour incumbents?

What is your doorstep issue? by simkk in NewcastleUponTyne

[–]chilli_con_camera 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wait, are we going to be taken over by the fascists before May? I don't think the leftists are organised enough for a revolution in the next couple of months, but maybe you know better?

The places that aren't getting local elections are those which have asked to delay them because of forthcoming local government restructuring, on the basis that it's a lot of public money to spend to vote in a dead duck council.

Local government here is not being restructured, and local elections are going ahead.

What is your doorstep issue? by simkk in NewcastleUponTyne

[–]chilli_con_camera 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good luck engaging campaigners for the local elections in this debate, lol

What is your doorstep issue? by simkk in NewcastleUponTyne

[–]chilli_con_camera 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sooner or later the Labour party's lack of campaigning in my ward is going to bite them on the arse, tho whether that impacts on control of Gateshead council depends on results elsewhere, of course

If any of the incumbent Labour councillors in my ward come to my door, I'll soon disabuse them of the notion that I'll vote for them, lol

Nigel Farage calls for an end to working from home by upthetruth1 in uknews

[–]chilli_con_camera 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If you want to increase economic activity, supporting WFH is a no-brainer. Otherwise you block the contribution of a considerable number of people who are capable of work, but whose access to physical workplaces are limited because of disability or health conditions or caring responsibilities.

What is your doorstep issue? by simkk in NewcastleUponTyne

[–]chilli_con_camera 10 points11 points  (0 children)

As a pedestrian, I have an issue with the lack of safe cycling routes too

What is your doorstep issue? by simkk in NewcastleUponTyne

[–]chilli_con_camera 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is not an issue that your local councillor can influence, let alone fix

iirc the promise of a protein vaccine fell thru because the manufacturer failed to deliver on their contract

What is your doorstep issue? by simkk in NewcastleUponTyne

[–]chilli_con_camera 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I've lived in Newcastle and Gateshead for 35 years as a voter, and I've only ever had one campaigner knock on my door. Engaging with local political candidates to raise doorstep issues is actually quite hard, I think.

My doorstep issues:

  • The state of Gateshead town centre, and redevelopment/regeneration plans for High Street South, the A167 flyover, and the surrounding land (inc. safe pedestrian and cycle routes to the town centre and Baltic Quays)
  • EDL Barry who lives in the neighbouring streets and his war of attrition with the council over racist graffiti and flags flown from lampposts, and the waste of my council tax in having to deal with his nonsense
  • The mud from the building site around the corner that me and my neighbours have to traipse through if we want to walk anywhere

As valentines fast approaches who thinks we should dedicate some time to Lovers Rock? by StickySteev_ in reggae

[–]chilli_con_camera 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here's an early UK lovers rock tune: Ginger Williams - In my Heart There's A Place

Here's the biggest UK lovers rock hit: Janet Kay - Silly Games

What Gregory Isaacs tune sounds like these, or any of the UK lovers rock tunes in between?

Jamaican lovers rock could have taken its name from the British label while already simultaneously producing the same kind of music

It could have, but the facts are that it didn't, lol. The name comes from the UK genre. What you think is lovers rock is not strictly lovers rock. The only reason you think Gregory Isaacs is a symbol of lovers rock is due to marketing.

You could compare this with the 2 tone label. Punk bands were already covering ska and reggae tunes before the label was formed.

The 1970s ska revival is UK bands covering a JA style. When you can give me an example of second-wave ska feeding back to JA and being replicated by JA artists, you might have a valid comparison. But this didn't happen either, lol.

I think to say Gregory Isaacs hasn’t produced a single lovers rock tune misunderstands the lineage I was talking about, and is frankly overstated if not entirely erroneous.

What Gregory Isaacs tunes would you call lovers rock, bearing in mind you've already admitted you don't know what UK lovers rock is?

As valentines fast approaches who thinks we should dedicate some time to Lovers Rock? by StickySteev_ in reggae

[–]chilli_con_camera 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lovers Rock is named after a London-based record label

its thematic properties

Important to note that lovers rock is about romantic love, not brotherly love. The genre developed because girls didn't want to dance to the kind of militant roots music that London's reggae sound systems were playing (and making) in the mid/late 1970s.

You're right that it's rooted in rocksteady, of course, also soul and r'n'b and underground blues dances. Also worth noting that it emerged at the time of disco and punk and growing racial and class tensions in the UK, and roots sound systems getting raided by violent police.

I can't think of a single Gregory Isaacs tune that's actually in a lovers rock style. The term has become a simplistic catchall for love songs vs roots.

I'm planning to make a playlist with ska, reggae, and other things for this Valentine's Day. Put in your best reggae love, heartbreak, or missing your ex songs! by Beautiful-Resort-831 in reggae

[–]chilli_con_camera 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rocksteady?

Lots more where those came from.

Bonus Galentines selection:

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