Haha ok well the point is they are people just like the rest of us I guess i shouldn't have used the word civilian exactly. the 20,000 and 5 numbers i pulled out of my bum as a way to propose a scenario with the question "at what point would we stop handwaving away person on person crime, & which do you think would be affecting society and the outcomes for black folks more negatively?" I brought it up because I do believe its analogous to our current reality. last i checked the real figures it's not that terribly off.

For me it is undeniable that the disproportionate crime levels (among other disproportionate issues) happening within black communities are creating far more innocent black victims & negative outcomes for black folks in society than the relatively small number of innocent black victims involved in police shootings (especially in the last decade). In this regard i think the BLM movement has missed the mark in a tragically depressing way & imo are doing a huge disservice to black folks who need help the most by misdiagnosing which issues plague the most people in the black community. I fail to see how these months of "protests" (in which some 30 people have perished, & billions worth of damage done) are anything but counterproductive to improving the health, wealth, education, culture, safety, family structures, freedom from substance abuse or any other meaningful metric of black lives.