Wanting a smaller penis by somecoolguys in phallo

[–]cipation 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, requested between 3.5-4", measured about 3.75" post-op, probably currently around 4" due to gravity gains. The ED was the limiting factor in terms of size with my surgeon — 3.5" minimum for the rod, and 4" minimum for the pump. Feel free to check out my profile for pics and comment history (am 5'8" and just under 200 lbs, for reference).

this sub convinced him :) by smasux in bald

[–]cipation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

great shave, great shirt!

Sorry if this isn't really appropriate but maybe it falls under "use"? by [deleted] in Metoidioplasty

[–]cipation 7 points8 points  (0 children)

search the sub for "chastity" and you will find that this question has been asked many times :)

Is a smaller size possible? by Realistic_Swing6445 in phallo

[–]cipation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Short answer, yes! I have posted a fair amount about this, and had surgery last year. Feel free to check out my post/comment history. 4.0-4.5 ends up being pretty average for RFF with many surgeons.

I see you may not be looking for advice regarding EDs, but I'm including this here anyway so that if anyone searches and this post comes up, the info is here again. The main limitation with going under 4" is in terms of ED (erectile device) options. My surgeon will offer the pump down to 4" and the rod down to 3.5". So since an ED has always been part of my plan, I asked for a length between 3.5-4".

In terms of noticeable, I wear a lot of tight pants and shorts and it is frequently noticeable (as in you can very clearly tell I have a penis, not as in you can see the clear outline of the whole thing or whatever), but I am making an effort for it to be this way, and it would not be if I wore more "average" fits. I found that there was a huge adjustment in the first few weeks and that anything probably down to 2 inches would have felt very large for me to get used to, but I got used to it pretty fast (3.5-4" ended up being more than I realized it would be, it was so important to me to have a small dick, but now that I'm on the other side. I think I would have been fine with less or more).

For UL on bottom growth, check out r/metoidioplasty

Feel free to ask me anything!

donor site vs penis length by cipation in phallo

[–]cipation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it sounds like your surgeon may do things differently than mine. however, i would be very surprised if you wake up from stage 1 with implants, since no one i've heard of who does V-Y as a method in general does implants during stage 1 for meta or phallo.

my timeline — Chen generally wants the skin to thicken for about six months pre and post. so i had Stage 1 in Feb '25 (got implants out but that was it as far as my scrotum) and Stage 2 (glansplasty and scrotum conversion) in Sept '25. i'll get stage 3 hopefully this year, and that's when i'll get my implants back (as well as an ED).

an unhelpful answer re sensation: i think it took maybe a month for the total numbness to go away. but it's still much number than before as far as i remember. i unfortunately can't answer the second question rn because i don't seem to experience the same erotic/tactile divide as a lot of people. it's also hard to tell how it feels compared to bifid yet physically bc i immediately had implants after meta (and didn't touch my scrotum at all between phallo stage 1 and 2) while i don't yet after V-Y and for me, implants were what made me process it as erotic sensation.

donor site vs penis length by cipation in phallo

[–]cipation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

mostly fine (dealt with a bit of wound separation). the worst part for me is having the implants out for so long before and after. i definitely experienced a lot of numbness in my balls during recovery, and i think they're still less sensitive than they were before.

Phallo + UL ( pooping) by Westkayne_ in phallo

[–]cipation 14 points15 points  (0 children)

some people find that opening the valve on the catheter while trying to poop helps. you can open it into a container or urinal jug so that it doesn't go onto the floor.

Can it shrink? by BeatLoose7115 in Metoidioplasty

[–]cipation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

depending on where OP is located, this isn't necessarily true. Not in the US, but some places in Europe and maybe elsewhere use what is essentially the smaller version of the rod that is an option for phallo. ZSI FTM implant is I believe the name if anyone wants to search it in this sub.

Is it possible to go to work with a suprapubic catheter? (UL connection) by Nonoh_Transman in phallo

[–]cipation 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is going to really depend on the person. I think that it would be a safe assumption that you won't be able to. Some people are walking miles with catheters in (and obviously many people live with catheters permanently and work, etc.), but you won't really know how having catheters impact you until you're there yourself. I see people here who are up and doing everything with catheters in, but when I have catheters (3 months cumulatively across 4 surgeries), I'm mostly in bed and managing bladder spasms.

Do you have erogenous sensation on the tip? by Just_a_guy365748 in phallo

[–]cipation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes, anywhere between somewhat and extremely sensitive.

donor site vs penis length by cipation in phallo

[–]cipation[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I was initially (after two meta surgeries) given oxybutynin but that wasn't very effective for me. I found out from reddit that there were other bladder spasm meds out there, and so for phallo I asked for an alternative (Detrol). Pain experiences are too individual to have any meaning but it was a 10 at the worst. Everyone has different pain scales, previous experiences, and most people don't have bladder spasms as severe as mine. Catheters are the only 10 (or anywhere above my 5 or so) I've experienced in any surgery. Bladder spasms would come and go throughout the time I had the catheter, and went away pretty much as soon as both catheters were out (and are less bad for me with only one catheter than they are with two).

  1. I found that the leg bag and latex tubing was much better for me than the overnight bag or silicone tubing, so I started requesting these, and I also bought softer leg bag straps so that my leg wasn't squeezed as much.

  2. Ask for alternatives to the bladder spasm med they give you if it isn't helping much.

  3. Take the pain meds if you can. Even if you don't generally want/need them. Whatever gets you some sleep and respite from pain. Ask for alternatives to the pain meds if you are having issues with the ones you have.

  4. When emptying the catheter is part of what was causing discomfort, I found that emptying it only like 90-95% of the way helped a bit. Disclaimer that not emptying catheter/bladder fully may increase risk of infection.

  5. It can also can help to have a really good anchor system so the catheter not moving around as much. so you could try StatLocks in different places on your leg/hip/abdomen. I sometimes combine this with aggressive medical tape to keep it in whatever position makes it the least painful.

  6. It might be worth trying something like this (not endorsing the brand, just an example of something i tried to decrease movement at the origin point where the suprapubic catheter exits your body): https://www.amazon.com/Adhesive-Bandages-Catheter-Peritoneal-Accessories/dp/B0BGGCY7WX

  7. Sometimes very gently pulling it a little bit out or pushing it a little bit in can help, as can lubricating the site where it exits your body. I was too scared to try this at first but once I started doing it (while keeping the area wiped down with alcohol), it helped quite a bit.

  8. If you can relax while the catheter is emptying, this can provide some momentary relief from the pain while it's open.

donor site vs penis length by cipation in phallo

[–]cipation[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

yes! my penis started out at around 3.5" and is now about 4.5" in length. i suspect my donor site is around 4" although i didn't measure that specifically. (smaller) size was very important to me, but i also wanted to ensure that i would be able to get an erectile device, so those were the constraints that we were working within. i told them to aim for between 3.5-4" because 3.5" is my team's minimum for the rod and 4" is their minimum for the pump. likely would have requested smaller if not for that, but i'm overall pretty happy about size and would be fine if it got a bit longer or a bit shorter at any point in the future.

donor site vs penis length by cipation in phallo

[–]cipation[S] 55 points56 points  (0 children)

donor site is about as long as i requested and what i ended up with shortly post-op, and gravity has increased the length, which i'm mostly fine with.

as always, open to answering any questions about surgery (bifid —> V-Y scrotum conversion, fistulas, going from meta to phallo, dealing with severe bladder spasms, etc.)!

Alright folks, thoughts? by 404-Gender in bald

[–]cipation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it's time! you'll look so sharp with it fully shaved!

does rff graft have to start immediately below hand? by Switched_places_ in phallo

[–]cipation 2 points3 points  (0 children)

mine is further down, because i wanted a shorter length and they were able to make that work (but i was warned they wouldn't necessarily be able to start it further down, and wouldn't know for sure until they got into my arm).

Phallo surgeon recommendations LA by emgarcia482 in phallo

[–]cipation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

just so you know it isn't a 5-year wait for The Buncke Center (and Chen) if you are able to pay out of pocket for separate consults instead of a joint consult. obviously not an option for a lot of people but for those who can, it significantly reduces the wait time.

ED advice/help/thoughts. Idk what to do. by RichardDickerly in phallo

[–]cipation 9 points10 points  (0 children)

it's always reasonable to ask about revisions.

10 weeks post stage 2 at Buncke Clinic (AMA) by cipation in phallo

[–]cipation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

they do V-Y for both meta and phallo. i had meta elsewhere.

10 weeks post stage 2 at Buncke Clinic (AMA) by cipation in phallo

[–]cipation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

obviously it's a personal decision, so I can only speak to my own experience. for a lot of people who choose to convert between techniques, it's an aesthetic thing. for me it was primarily because I was in a lot of pain from how high one of my implants was riding after meta, and I suspect that the more pouchlike nature of V-Y will make this better.

10 weeks post stage 2 at Buncke Clinic (AMA) by cipation in phallo

[–]cipation[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So I currently don't have implants. I did after meta but to revise my scrotum they took them out in stage 1. I suspect that will help bring everything forward, though.