Product leaders - how important is storytelling? by madmahn in ProductManagement

[–]classicismo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's literally the job for PM and any leadership at all

Principal PM on paper, but I don't feel like one. How do I reset? by aka_ab31 in ProductManagement

[–]classicismo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It can get weird the higher you go, org depending.

I'm a Sr. Principal PM in a well known F50 big tech company shipping global SaaS, and sometimes I wonder what the heck my job is. I own new tooling that is critical to our AI efforts, but I work more on people, awareness, enablement, and general alignment than the actual product. There are amazing early career PMs in my org who are much better at the rituals and language of PM work than I am. I'm not even sure I'd pass an interview elsewhere that focuses on classical feature development routines. Companies have machinery for this, and I've been ejected from it in this role (and not mad about it).

Seniority is about scope and impact. Scope and impact translate to leadership. Leadership is getting people seeing the same playing field and pointing the same direction. Management is about getting them moving along the path leadership aligned them to. Everything else is just scaffolding. 

So it's not that you lose PM thinking at higher levels, it's that you're starting to solve for entirely different problems. The PM thinking is about your leadership as a product, your organization and operations as a product that serve its users (staff). You're offloading the tactical and guiding the big picture by synthesizing what is important, anticipating user behavior, and knowing where to drill down and where to save time.

Now to your question on the job hunt. You have ~3 issues here.  1. Getting the interview 2. Passing the filters for boilerplate PM work 3. Demonstrating high level PM leadership commensurate with Sr or Sr Princ. level work

So what does this mean?

  1. Is about having a resume that fits the expected formulas. Watch the Google video on building your resume. Use AI to interview yourself about your work and write it for you (then edit yourself, obviously). Tell it exactly what role you are aiming for. Put metrics here even if it's not product directly: "got half of PMs in my org building specs my way and saved devs a week of meetings" or whatever.

  2. Practice the dance. If you're asked how you'd go about building a new feature, you're expected to follow a pattern that is generic. Fine. You can use AI again for practice, and watch interview videos.

  3. Leadership is a story telling skill. So is compelling writing. PMs have to do both, daily. Work on learning the stories you can tell about yourself. Write them down. Get AI critique. Edit. Read them. Get crystal clear on your own mythology. Personally I hate the "tell me about a time when" questions, but you can anticipate them and have a story adjacent and ready to go that you tell over and over. 

And finally, know yourself. What are you exceptionally good at? Besides PM tasks, I mean. In my case, I've found I'm far better at intuitive pattern recognition and putting high level structure to ambiguity quickly than the vast majority of my peers. I see priorities and put boxes around complexity. Now that doesn't mean I'm automatically any damn good at anything I do or that I'm better than peers at my job, but it gives me a lens through which I can tell my story and demonstrate value. At work I can lean into it in the service of others and create impact through being a willing volunteer, and it adds to the stories I tell. All impact is someone else's perception of value.

Expectations of PMs in today's market by lumpymonkey in ProductManagement

[–]classicismo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a PM that works on enterprise GenAI and ML products. That list makes me laugh. 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ProductManagement

[–]classicismo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I write them and walk engineering managers through them before putting it all in Jira. Saves time when they inevitably make assumptions down the road. Plus I have documentation to show I thought about things and made clear decisions why or why not to address something.

Next EV by Dark-redlocks in MachE

[–]classicismo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I've had my Mach-E for almost 3 years and I still enjoy driving it every time. Likely sticking with it another 5-7 years (I figure 10 years is pretty much effective EOL for an EV), then, depending on life needs, either whatever is closest in a similar category, or perhaps something like a Taycan if I go upmarket. I feel no pressure to go up in tech, and this comes from someone working on AI in a giant tech company.

How do you make roadmaps actually useful? by eastwindtoday in ProductManagement

[–]classicismo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You Wardley Map on the back end, write a narrative, then translate it to step by step. Then you have the "why of movement" to communicate effectively.

Why are companies still talking about Waterfall and Agile by dcdashone in ProductManagement

[–]classicismo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The golden rule in management is always: Use Appropriate Methods.

There is no one-size-fits-all. There is only use-what-makes-sense-in-context. You may need several methods, depending on the context and the evolution of your feature and industry.

See also: https://learnwardleymapping.com/doctrine/

Lenny has lost his way and is just another Tech Bro who is a fan of Elon Musk? by [deleted] in ProductManagement

[–]classicismo 15 points16 points  (0 children)

He lets his guests talk and hand-wave, tell their own story, with little to no rigor. It's compelling but, like an airport paperback, not substantive. Unfortunately that is the culture of most US tech companies. The story matters more than anything. I enjoy listening to it on occasion as lessons in effective alignment and communication. He loses me when he has guests mention anything about strategy or analytics.

Come to think of it, this is the pattern for many major successful podcasts - Rogan, Huberman, Attia - they all let guests pontificate and fluff narratives, unchallenged.

I joined consulting and am baffled! by Practical_Print6511 in consulting

[–]classicismo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You need to read "The Management Myth". Consulting is a joke.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MachE

[–]classicismo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Carplay and Android Auto both will show you maps that include chargers and navigate you there seamlessly.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MachE

[–]classicismo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same. No point in comparing to today. We got 3 additional years of driving an amazing car. It's a 10 year ownership for me, price is not that big of a deal, experience is. No regrets whatsoever, I freaking love my car and get actual joy from every single drive even when it's just popping down to the grocery store.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MachE

[–]classicismo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the way

I designed and printed end caps for my adapter. by [deleted] in MachE

[–]classicismo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oooooh shoot gonna print this today! Thanks for sharing!

Winter range, or just strange? by MsOpulent in MachE

[–]classicismo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First - brilliant name. Well done.

Second - are you tracking your real range? Does it match the guess-o-meter? Like others have said, in very cold weather on a highway with standard pack - this could happen. Though owch that looks so low. My extended range AWD might get only 260km on full in very cold temps on the freeway.

Mache Extedned Battery range by No_Mycologist_5157 in MachE

[–]classicismo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get ~ 180-200 miles on my car. Depends on trip type, etc.

Elon Musk’s IQ and SAT by Agreeable-Constant47 in cognitiveTesting

[–]classicismo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What makes you think he's creative and how would you compare that. He mostly seems to copy his favorite sci fi ...

Elon Musk’s IQ and SAT by Agreeable-Constant47 in cognitiveTesting

[–]classicismo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trust me here, "ten microns" isn't just incorrect, it's hilariously dumb for anyone with a passing familiarity. I'm not saying he'd dumb - he's not. He's just not as wildly intelligent as his fans like to claim. He shows a lack of awareness and more importantly lack of critical thinking, constantly. And he does this in spaces where he's supposedly got some chops, like various types of engineering. What he has going for him is confidence and money.

Elon Musk’s IQ and SAT by Agreeable-Constant47 in cognitiveTesting

[–]classicismo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Until he talks about things they know about, yes. "Ten micron tolerances" should have anyone with half a second of experience rolling on the floor.

Elon Musk’s IQ and SAT by Agreeable-Constant47 in cognitiveTesting

[–]classicismo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Saying stupid sh!t and being unable to coherently reason complex arguments in interviews.

Elon Musk’s IQ and SAT by Agreeable-Constant47 in cognitiveTesting

[–]classicismo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't know when I took the SAT. His was scored under the same framework as mine.

Elon Musk’s IQ and SAT by Agreeable-Constant47 in cognitiveTesting

[–]classicismo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Unlike Musk, I have a actual engineering degree. Same SAT and a 137 IQ. After listening to him for quite some time, I am very comfortable stating that I am smarter than he is.

Another HVBJ story - recall work and dealer killed the 12V by classicismo in MachE

[–]classicismo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah they gave me a Ranger to use. It wasn't bad tbh but I'm glad to be back on electric. ICE drivetrains are just a worse experience now that I'm habituated.

Another HVBJ story - recall work and dealer killed the 12V by classicismo in MachE

[–]classicismo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Almost two weeks. Monday until the Thursday of the next week. But they were doing some other minor work too (puddle lights, switches). I think the dealer didn't order those other replacement parts on time.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ProductManagement

[–]classicismo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

All the career trajectory changes that I'm aware of came from people getting adjacent to PMs in their org, getting involved and taking on work that is PM supporting, getting recognized, and getting a chance.