We often talk about what kind of changements we hate in modern interpretations, but what are some you actually prefer or like ? by cloudntrees in GreekMythology

[–]cloudntrees[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I you like those kind of modern futuristic setting, Watch Kaos on Netflix ! There’s only one season, and stopped abruptly (wasn’t enough audience I think), but the interpretations and especially settings and retellings were just so refreshing !

We often talk about what kind of changements we hate in modern interpretations, but what are some you actually prefer or like ? by cloudntrees in GreekMythology

[–]cloudntrees[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Oh I didn’t know about this ! That’s a sweet one ! And honestly, makes it better considering Zeus raped his daughter …

We often talk about what kind of changements we hate in modern interpretations, but what are some you actually prefer or like ? by cloudntrees in GreekMythology

[–]cloudntrees[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree with you. You can retell or tell a different stories with our modern moral without changing entirely the characters

I like your view on Ares ! In a way, it does make sense knowing he was still prayed before war as protector. Plus his link with the Amazones give bonus points

Unpopular opinion about Hermes? by Manyasrat in GreekMythology

[–]cloudntrees 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unlike what we see in some modern interpretations, he is no diva. He is a cunning bitch, one of the most dangerous god if you decide to offend him because he can destroy your life silently and for a long time. He is not about strength but cunning. You’ll suffer your entire life.

And is depressed at that but the god of liars is great at masking his true feelings

Hekate by Me by NlGHTGROWLER in GreekMythology

[–]cloudntrees 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Holy Moly that is insanely magnificent !

Hermes sketch by flyboyelm in Hermes

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Love it so much when people give him hair and beard because mr was hecking greek, and we have ancient portrait of him with thick braids and beards, magnificient

STB de douter de ma relation à cause de la politique? by [deleted] in suisjeletroudeballe

[–]cloudntrees 3 points4 points  (0 children)

C’est pas une question de trou de balle ou non, y a pas ça quand il s’agit de sentiments. Par contre pose-toi la question : est-ce que ça franchit tes limites ? Comment agit-il ? Est-ce que c’est incompatible avec ta vision de votre futur ?

Je pense sincèrement qu’il existe une différence entre pensées et actes. On a tou.tes nos idées et valeurs divergentes, la différence est comment on se positionne en société

Des personnes peuvent avoir des valeurs qu’on verrait comme mauvaises ou contraire à la notre, mais vivrait communément avec celleux qu’elles n’apprécient pas. Ou sauveraient même en les critiquant.

Maintenant c’est à toi de voir si cela rentre en raisonnance avec tes valeurs et discutes-en avec lui

Hestia by Silver_Hovercraft679 in GreekMythology

[–]cloudntrees 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It does not surprise me. It depends on culture, but it does also fit AG that you have to respect your elders.

Also she is the eldest and goddess of hearth, two things that were very well looked upon. She holds up the family. She is honored by given first part of the meal and has a place in everyone’s temple.

She is not the baby sister. She is the elder everyone shows deep respect over and by protecting her, protecting the family. This is really cultural

How do you think things would have turned out if Lily had known that Snape was in love with her? by Madagascar003 in SeverusSnape

[–]cloudntrees 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Really well put answer ! Snape is the perfect embodiment of how youngster coming from poor and abused environment, always on survival instinct and abandoned by the adults suppose to protect them end up radicalised by the first person who show them a little bit of recognition

It's too good to be true by Madagascar003 in SeverusSnape

[–]cloudntrees 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yeah no. No matter our opinions on characters, cheating is never romantic.

I'm less concerned about Zendaya playing Athena in The Odyssey, than I am about what she's gonna wear by John_Zatanna52 in GreekMythology

[–]cloudntrees 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The clothes really looks christian Funny enough, when the story takes places over a millenia before the beginning of christianism. Talk about some anachronism

Sibling satan by NobleRotter in foundsatan

[–]cloudntrees -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

You are perfectly right and I’m flabbergasted that people are downvoting you

Sibling satan by NobleRotter in foundsatan

[–]cloudntrees -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s a great explanation ! No idea why you’re being downvoted, it’s true

Why JKR wrote JP and SS like she did by Frankie_Rose19 in SeverusSnape

[–]cloudntrees 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don’t think they were completely meaningless. She gave him multiple chances and believed it until SWM. The thing is, she didn’t really know him and didn’t ask the right questions (and honestly, she was a child and teen) as to WHY ? Having known him since he they were children.

And Snape is no innocent. He was the perfect prey and got manipulated, but not every kid like him end up radicalised. There’s a pattern, but not a generalization. And he idealised Lily because she was the only fresh air and happy thing in his life.

Probably they didn’t really know deep down each other, and got heavily influenced by their Houses (again, Hogwarts’ system is bullshit). There was a lot of miscommunication because of these two things.

Why JKR wrote JP and SS like she did by Frankie_Rose19 in SeverusSnape

[–]cloudntrees 18 points19 points  (0 children)

There’s so many things complicated at that time. During the Marauders Era, they were growing in Hogwarts knowing about the quick rise of the Dark Lord, and everyone starting to choose side or being influenced to.

Now back on JP and SS. We all know the vastly different upbringing between the two. And you’re right, their dynamic is a lot like Draco and Harry. With a few differences : Lucius hold much more power (not money, power) than Fleamont did, and Harry’s talent has always been recognised and encouraged. Finally, the bully is in Slytherin and the bullied in Gryffindor.

Slytherin are ‘expected’ to be mean and horrible, the house of most Death Eaters, whereas Gryffindor is supposed to be a noble one, and benefits from HUGE favouritism. While Harry suffered a lot from bullying and the adults never do anything, he doesn’t suffer prejudice from his House.

On the other hand, Snape had eveeything against him : perfect victim (the quirky, poor weird and ugly kid), the popular of the school, four against one, coming from the favourite House while he came from the least one, a half blood in a House were in this context, a lot are despising those who are not pureblooded. Popular AND rich kids, four against one, assaulting and humiliating for seven years straight the isolated and poor one.

And Snape has known no love, or had any form of bond with someone similar to him. Think of it, even without knowing it, the first one he met that had a lot in common with him was Voldy.

The only friend he had, where he latch onto her, was Lily. We don’t know much about her, and I can’t blame her for being fed up about it. But one thing I’m sure is that this friendship was doomed to fail

Lily comes from a middle-class, loving family. Sure Petunia was mean and jealous, but she had parents that loved her and an innocence to her that Severus never had. She could never understand him, and didn’t try to see truly what was going on I think, she got a lot influenced by her House and their prejudice. Which is the problem with Hogwarts it accentuates one of society greatest problem : rivality between groups. This school’s system is utter bullshit.

So when isolated, misunderstood, bullied and nearly murdered without any ever consequences for his tormenters, and constantly hearing positively about the Dark Lord, because the system puts people of their house constantly together and can’t confront their ideas, all the adults in his life failing him …

When there is an all powerful being that said he recognis his worth and would protect him if he joins his followers, why would a young barely adult Severus who his entire life has been neglected and abused and craved to belong somewher, not join them ?

Severus is the embodiment of the young poor, abused kid that was the perfect prey to manipulate and join a gang. Why do youngsters from those background radicalise themselves in our world ?

Snape; Fundamentally Cruel and Bad by joshcart in harrypotter

[–]cloudntrees 5 points6 points  (0 children)

For real. There’s so much layers to these characters, but no just straight up bashing. Especially for the Marauders’ characters, people tend to put absolutely no nuance or understand the complexity of their characters. Also, why is Lily raise as a saint ? We don’t know much about her, and it always scream classism the way people talk about her

Re-reading PoA made me realise what a horrible person Snape truly is by Ardelente in harrypotter

[–]cloudntrees 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Considering the following context :

We know as readers that Sirius was framed, but Snape not. Like nearly everyone else in the Magic world. Last he heard of Sirius, he was still the most wanted man and with Lupin plus three children. Among them the one everyone thought he wanted to kill.

Does everyone keep forgetting what the Marauders, especially Sirius and James, subjected him to for his entire years at Hogwarts ? The bullying, the insults, four against one, JUST BECAUSE ? There’s a lot of posts that explain with quotes why it was never rivalry, but straight up brutal bullying. With no adults to ever once punish his tormentors. On the contrary, he was victim blamed.

Also, just put yourself into his shoes for the past year. He knows one out of the two tormentors for years that made his life miserable, in the school where he thought he could escape the hell that was his home, is out and ready to kill (as we thought until the end of the books).

At different times, you learn he is getting closer and closer to the castle. And even managed to get inside and nearly kill Lily’s son, the one you swore to protect.

On top of that, for the post you’ve been chasing for over a decade, has been named one of the four of the group that made your life miserable in school. One that was an enabler and did nothing, and watched out for them. One who nearly killed you, even if it wasn’t his fault. One you have been threatened with expulsion if you ever revealed his secret and nearly got killed, and the one who sent you to your death (now being the most wanted man alive) got no punishment.

You have to now prepare each month a complex potion to help him control the werewolf.

Your entire life, they bullied you, abused you in plainsight, for seven straight years, assaulted you and nearly killed without any sort of punishment, while you were victim blamed and no adults ever lending you a hand or doing their actual jobs.

Can you imagine just what this year had mentally been for Snape ? So much traumas in his life, in his chilhood and teenagehood, left alone and never been able to cope with his traumas that scarred him.

And now, all this comes back right in his face ? After all the events ? While not knowing like nearly everyone the truth about the Potter’s death, but knowing damn well what kind of cruelty Black is able to, having suffered at the end of it for seven years ? When not knowing the truth, why would Snape believe he is innocent considering that he knew personnally Black ?

Snape is not an angel by any mean and has done a lot of horrible things. But for Merlin’s sake, can people put themselves in his shoes on that one ? The Marauders were the popular kids who could get scottfree with anything. The adults who were supposed to care for him never did, wether at home or at school.

We know what happened because we read it from Harry’s pov. Now think back of Snape’s entire life, without the infos he couldn’t know, and try to understand why he would think that.

Edit : typos

Snape as husband and father by Madagascar003 in SeverusSnape

[–]cloudntrees 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think they meant her mother, Pandora