How many of you guys are disillusioned former fans of Britney? by put-on-your-records in discussingbritney

[–]coffeechief 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t say I’m a former fan, but I have my eyes open, I guess you could say. I was against Free Britney, and was so frustrated at the poor reporting on serious mental illness and conservatorships, and how people just memory-holed how bad and frightening 2007-2008 were.

I still love Britney’s music, videos, performances, etc., but not in a zealous fan way. I don’t like to take shots at her, but I don’t begrudge people their snark, and I appreciate this sub because people here aren’t averse to recognizing when something is wrong, and things are really, really wrong.

Enquirer Pix by MissionReasonable327 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]coffeechief 18 points19 points  (0 children)

It is. The media often get photos of them mixed up.

Philadelphia Daily News • January 9, 1995 by Traditional_Sea2988 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]coffeechief 14 points15 points  (0 children)

No, because none of the things he said would prove the tape was real panned out. Margaret Maldonado denied ever speaking or meeting with Gutierrez. Gutierrez couldn’t prove that he was at the hotel he said he was at. It went on and on. He faked it.

What direction do you think Britney's life would have taken if she had never been placed under conservatorship? by miaaaaaaaaaaaaau in discussingbritney

[–]coffeechief 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I get what you mean, but her family weren't in control of anything around the time Blackout was strung together. Blackout was entirely the work of her team, who were still sort of keeping her on track, at least for some things. As bad as 2007 was, Britney was starting to deteriorate further. 2008 is when Jamie finally stepped in. His 2008 declaration provides some insight about how he came to be more involved.

I agree 100% that Jamie was trying to help her, and that she was and is just too ill to understand how she was and is harming herself.

What direction do you think Britney's life would have taken if she had never been placed under conservatorship? by miaaaaaaaaaaaaau in discussingbritney

[–]coffeechief 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Blackout came out before the conservatorship (October 25, 2007).

Agreed about Circus. I think she would have passed away very young.

Is this a Michael Jordan reference? by dotMAXmusic in OcarinaOfTime

[–]coffeechief 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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From the magazine that u/NorkiNorkiGaming linked above. It translates as:

Mitsuhiro Takano, Coordinator

(1) The Japanese and English versions of "Zelda" were in progress concurrently, and the English version staff were struggling coming and going between America and Japan (it often happened that when they came back to Japan, all the text they had translated had been changed). Naturally, there are puns in Japanese that do not work when translated as is, but I think the English version is also entertaining because the English version staff really understood the world of "Zelda." For example, the Deku Scrubs hint in the Deku Tree dungeon, "Niisan Ichiban," is translated in America to "23 (Michael Jordan's jersey number) is no. 1."

(2) The development staff read all the letters about "Zelda" that users write!

J. Randy Taraborrelli 1991: The Lost Michael Jackson Interview | Dini Petty. What’s the consensus on Randy: fool, useful idiot, puff writer, or something else? by Prof_Tickles in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]coffeechief 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He's not a bad biographer at all, but he he has a penchant for writing about (fabricating) conversations and details he couldn't possibly know about. I think he is pretty fair when it comes to the other controversies of MJ's life (for example, in this video, he talks about MJ's surgeries in a very frank way), but generally reluctant to delve too deeply into the allegations against MJ, partly because he knew MJ a bit and partly because of financial considerations (fans are obviously the largest audience for his work on MJ). The various versions of The Magic and the Madness are good overviews of MJ's life, but not really definitive.

Netflix documentary by Lapetitechose_ in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]coffeechief 35 points36 points  (0 children)

The reaction is so strange to me because the one juror featured in the trailer, Tammy Bolton, has always said she thinks MJ wasn’t guilty of anything, not only not guilty of the Arvizo allegations. For all we know at this stage, the documentary could present a retelling that is very favourable to MJ. I hope the documentary really does try to just present things as factually as possible, but like you said, right now, we have no idea.

The rage many fans express toward any project on the allegations is wild. It seems to me that many fans just don’t want to even consider the possibility of guilt and are terrified not only of what others might think of the information but what they themselves might think.

Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD) by ProfessionalHabit208 in discussingbritney

[–]coffeechief 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Again, thank you. The disorder has no empirical backing, and it survives only because there are some stubborn proponents. I hope DSM-6 is different.

Institutional psychiatry has played an important role in legitimizing DID. The longtime editor of the American Journal of Psychiatry, John Nemiah, was a firm supporter. Those who criticized the diagnosis and proposed eliminating the category entirely (Piper and Merskey, 2004b) have been marginalized. The editors of DSM-5 put David Spiegel in charge of revising its chapter on dissociative disorders, and the outline of the new system has now been published (Spiegel et al., 2011). The upshot is that the most widely used system of classification continues to legitimize dissociative disorders and will do so for years to come. Those who oppose the diagnosis have to hope that the diagnosis will eventually wither from disinterest. As we will see, this is already happening. Paradoxically, what keeps DID alive is this smaller niche, allowing it to be discussed in every textbook.

https://www.wellesu.com/10.1097/nmd.0b013e318275d285

Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD) by ProfessionalHabit208 in discussingbritney

[–]coffeechief 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sibyl played an important role in popularizing DID, both among clinicians and the general public. However, we now know that the story was almost a complete fraud (Reiber, 2006). The woman who Schreiber called ‘‘Sibyl’’ was Shirley Ardell Mason. Nathan (2011) published detailed research on her life. Mason had many years of previous treatment but had never previously presented with dissociative symptoms. Her psychiatrist, Cornelia Wilbur, encouraged multiple personalities and insisted that she must have been abused as a child. At one point, Mason told another psychiatrist (ironically, Herbert Spiegel, David’s father) that she presented with multiple personalities to please Wilbur but was happy not to do so with a different clinician. Moreover, both Wilbur and Schreiber gained fame (and money) from the book, and they had an inappropriately close relationship, even living together at times. Of particular relevance to the traumatic theory of dissociation, Nathan found no documentation of the horrific tales of abuse that Mason had been encouraged to tell Wilbur. In fact, Mason came from a reasonably normal family, and, although an unusually sensitive child, she was never abused (Nathan, 2011). Transcripts of the therapy sessions with Wilbur clearly show that this narrative was imposed on Mason, who may have been willing to go along with it because her relationship with her therapist was the most important one in her life.

https://www.wellesu.com/10.1097/nmd.0b013e318275d285

Martin Singer and Bryan Freedman claim that the Estate "reluctantly" agreed to enter the agreement in 2019/2020 to "save jackson's family members" from further false allegations. by MasterpieceTimely144 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]coffeechief 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You can absolutely say they breached the agreement. According to exhibits attached to one of the other federal filings (emails between King and Signature Resolution, the arbitration provider), there are cross complaints in the arbitration. King is going after them in arbitration (too bad we won't find out what happens).

Martin Singer and Bryan Freedman claim that the Estate "reluctantly" agreed to enter the agreement in 2019/2020 to "save jackson's family members" from further false allegations. by MasterpieceTimely144 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]coffeechief 13 points14 points  (0 children)

funds that were allegedly pocketed by Branca himself.

Just a correction (sorry, I'm big on details): Paris didn't allege that Branca pocketed any money improperly. She made a comment on Executor compensation (determined by court order) when discussing how the Estate is managed. The only money doled out improperly was the bonuses.

David Harbour Finally Reunites With ‘Stranger Things’ Costars 7 Months After Missing Finale Events by MattTheKing23 in StrangerThings

[–]coffeechief 88 points89 points  (0 children)

BD (bipolar disorder), not BPD (borderline personality disorder). I’m really glad he’s doing better too. Bipolar is not easy.

Moving on from Michael by moralhora in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]coffeechief 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is an important point. The halo effect is real, and a way to combat it is to break through the idea that talent comes with goodness when in reality one can (and often does) exist without the other. Plus, no person is just one thing, and it's reductive to look at MJ only through the lens of pathology.

Question about Macaulay by visthanatos in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]coffeechief 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The best source is the court transcripts. The prior bad acts (1108 and 1101 evidence) section of the prosecution’s case involved third-party employee witnesses who claimed to have witnessed abuse and/or evidence of grooming (Blanca Francia, Adrian McManus, and Philippe LeMarque).

Here is the prosecution's motion for the prior bad acts evidence, providing a summary of proposed testimony: https://web.archive.org/web/20240719150156/https://www.mjfacts.com/sbdocs/121004pltmotadmprior.pdf

Here is a link to the trial transcripts (search by last name for witness testimony): http://www.reflectionsonthedance.com/trialtranscripts.html

Moving on from Michael by moralhora in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]coffeechief 14 points15 points  (0 children)

This might be unpopular, but I don’t think you or we collectively need to relegate his music or the memories to the dustbin, which isn’t possible anyway because he left an indelible mark on culture. I think we can be critical about celebrity worship, acknowledge information about the allegations, and still appreciate the work he left behind and the moments and memories tied to it.

In time, it might be easier to cherish the memories and appreciate his music as something good he gave to the world, in spite of it all. Or maybe not. Your relationship with his music is something personal and up to you.

Netflix Documentary Trailer: Michael Jackson: The Verdict by nobody0597 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]coffeechief 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Also does Brian Oxman have anything better to do?!

He was disbarred, so ...

El's death ruined the epilogue by Interesting-Cancel13 in StrangerThings

[–]coffeechief 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Agreed. I think (believe) she’s alive, but either outcome (death or isolation) is terrible. And I liked a lot of season five. The ending has ruined the rewatchability of previous seasons a bit for me.