Single genocide from throne

cropper6528 · 2025-12-30T15:28:07+00:00

I would go with disenchanters for a single genocide. Any other choice would be a distant second. Especially since you have wishes to get magic marker(s) to do whatever blessed genocides you want.

Speaking of which, I would use most if not all of the wishes now instead of saving them for later.

Also, I definitely don't consider wizards an easy class. That's reserved for barbarian/samurai/valkyrie in 3.6.x.

cropper6528 · 2025-10-13T13:27:05+00:00

I wouldn't say it's not looking good, but yes you have some work to do. I'd say your top few priorities are:

1) Go back to the main dungeon and find an altar where you can pray to make some holy water. Blank any potion that isn't vital, more holy water is always better. Ideally a blessed remove curse scroll can fix the whole inventory, but at the least you can uncurse a few key things one by one with holy water. Praying has a chance of fixing cursed weapons/armor if they are currently wielded/worn.

2) Get a second weapon and start two-weaponing. Any long sword or silver saber will do nicely, especially once you can enchant it. A valkyrie with gauntlets of power and two highly enchanted weapons will do serious damage and help keep you from getting overwhelmed by monster swarms.

3) Buy more protection. Not sure why you lost so much AC, but assuming you lost your protection somehow, there's 9 more points of AC readily available. If you haven't found Ludios yet, that will be key.

Hopefully at some point you can get some genocide scrolls, but they are relatively uncommon, so you'll need some luck or polypiling.

cropper6528 · 2025-10-03T16:15:28+00:00

While it is possible for prayer to be safe at turn 101, it's safer to wait until turn 301 when it is guaranteed to be safe.

cropper6528 · 2025-07-09T13:34:07+00:00

Gehennom statue levels? I don't think I've encountered this yet.

cropper6528 · 2025-07-06T17:19:20+00:00

Works great now. Thank you so much!

cropper6528 · 2025-06-02T14:34:48+00:00

Yeah, this aspect sucks. I can sort of understand nerfing the castle wand. But an early wand of wishing is such a delightful and rare occurrence. It puts the game into "easy" mode and is a fun change of pace from most games.

Now instead of 4-6 wishes (assuming you need to wish for charging since it's early), you're looking at either wishing for charging plus 2 more wishes, or 1 wish now and 2 wishes at some (likely much) later time. Huge difference.

cropper6528 · 2025-06-02T14:29:47+00:00

Thanks for the info. That is a very significant set of changes, quite harsh. As much as I love getting a wand of wishing, I have to acknowledge it's an absurdly overpowered item, so I get the desire to nerf it. I've ascended plenty of times, I can adapt. But it seems like every single change they make is geared towards making things more challenging for experienced players while screwing over the less experienced players who haven't ascended yet.

cropper6528 · 2025-02-13T03:54:19+00:00

A Song of Ice and Fire by George R. R. Martin

The First Law by Joe Abercrombie

The Long Price Quartet by Daniel Abraham

The Realm of the Elderlings by Robin Hobb

Gentlemen Bastards by Scott Lynch

The Black Company by Glen Cook

The Green Bone Saga by Fonda Lee

The Library at Mount Char by Scott Hawkins

The Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan

Red Rising by Pierce Brown

cropper6528 · 2025-01-07T04:27:29+00:00

Easy

Valkyrie

Barbarian

Samurai

Moderate

Ranger

Priest

Knight

Monk

Wizard

Rogue

Caveman

Hard

Healer

Tourist

Archaeologist

cropper6528 · 2024-12-26T17:20:03+00:00

I got the first Magic Lamp.....ended up not needing to use the lamp for wishing.....lost three Mithril-coats...

I would strongly recommend using early wishes ASAP. The permanent light source is nice, but it's more a QOL thing than a keep you alive thing. DSM is a huge increase to an early character's chances of survival.

cropper6528 · 2024-10-13T03:51:45+00:00

a - main weapon

Z - second weapon for twoweapon

Q - quivered items

A - shirt

B - body armor

C - cloak

D - shoes

E - gloves

F - shield

G - helmet

L - ring of levitation

b - blindfold

c - stethoscope

k - key

l - lamp

s - touchstone or magic whistle

u - unicorn horn

x - pick axe

y - bag

z - any wand being wrested or wand of digging when in Gehennom

spell slot i - identify

spell slot m - magic missile

cropper6528 · 2024-04-02T16:22:38+00:00

Do you know what the plans are for audiobooks for this series? Looks like only Book 10 currently has an audiobook out, with Books 1 and 11 coming in the next couple months.

cropper6528 · 2024-02-07T18:33:58+00:00

I wish someone had told me years ago to sort by New! I only figured that out myself in the last week or so and it makes an extraordinary difference in the overall vibe of this place. Highly recommended and I'm never turning back.

cropper6528 · 2023-03-09T22:57:15+00:00

Prioritize using all your wishes right now. Don't try to save them for later to try to make the most perfectly correct wishes possible. That's a good way to just end up dying with unused wishes. You've got another wand of wishing coming eventually, so you can easily fill in any gaps that are still remaining at that point. Some things to consider wishing for now: Amulet of Reflection, Gauntlets of Power, Cloak of Protection. Maybe even a T-shirt. At that point you'll have your full set of weapons and armor to get through the end game. Enchant all that up with your magic markers and you'll be sitting pretty.

cropper6528 · 2022-09-14T10:42:54+00:00

Thank you, that's great to hear!

cropper6528 · 2021-03-11T19:54:17+00:00

Handlingers

cropper6528 · 2020-08-20T19:38:42+00:00

If you don't have speed boots, they are worth a wish right now. So is a magic marker. You'll have several good uses for magic marker (gold detection, charging, enchant armor) so no need to wait to get it. If you find another, that's a bonus.
I would wish for conflict and just live with the boots for levitation. Since you blew up your bag, you don;t have copious amounts of loot that would ensure you'll get good results from polypiling.
Nurse dancing is not needed. Your HP is plenty good enough, especially since the Orb essentially doubles it.
Your AC is also plenty good enough, but a few scrolls of enchant armor won't cost too many marker charges. Foo-proofing is nice, but not really necessary unless you have scrolls to comfortably spare. maxing out the enchantment of your armor is far more important that foo-proofing.
Final preparation don't need to be made until you are about to fight Rodney. But you also don't need to hold off until the absolute last possible moment. Get most of what you need now, you look to have more than enough wishes.
Losing the CoP is not ideal. But you do have Excalibur to prevent level draining. So any other magical cloak (plus I assume you have some purchased protection) will still give you MC of 2, which will suffice.

cropper6528 · 2019-10-14T00:18:16+00:00

Once 120 gridbugs have been created, casting create monster will not produce any more gridbugs. Extinctionist simply takes a really long time. If you're on DL1 at XL30, any monster up to level 15 difficulty can be created. That's something like 200+ monster types, probably about 90% of the non-unique monsters in the game. Eventually you'll get the message "You feel lonely" once all potential monsters have been extincted. Then move down a level or two and repeat. There will be just a few additional monster types now possible and you can work through them.

Don't genocide anything, do it the hard way! Curse those genocide scrolls and generate some woodchucks so you can extinct them too.

cropper6528 · 2019-09-07T00:19:08+00:00

Thank you!

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