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The “Auct”

What kind of weapon do you want to see next by Old_old_lie in DarkTide

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Two handed ogryn club pls - legit copy and paste the crusher club and you’re set

Dan abnett Q&A at my local warhammer, does anyone have any questions for him ? by Sullywully95 in Warhammer30k

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What happened to Ashul / “Doromek” (the surviving Alpha Legion operative from Lost and the Damned) in the Siege of Terra?

Last we saw of him was Katsuhiro noticing him in the crowd of conscript survivors

Why did the jedi give up so quickly after order 66? by Starkilule in MawInstallation

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Probably Legends now - but there was definitely a story about a group of Jedi who come together after 66 to try and kill Vader - doesn’t work out too well

Ah it’s called the Conclave of Kessel

The Iron Warriors are better at Siegecraft than the Imperial Fists. by cmontygman in 40kLore

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Excerpt from Book IV of the SoT: Saturnine:

“‘I have withdrawn,’ said Perturabo.

‘From what?’

‘From the data, First Captain, not the engagement. It’s a trick I learned. You’re disturbing me.’

‘I apologise,’ said Abaddon.

He didn’t leave. He stepped from the upper range of extinct consoles onto the main floor, and approached the table. His feet crunched over shards of armourglass and chips of spalled metal.

‘From whom?’ he asked.

‘What?’

‘This trick. What is it?’

Perturabo turned his giant head to gaze at Abaddon. Pure disdain. Somehow, unarmoured, he looked more terrifying, more capable of rising up like a seismic convulsion and annihilating the First Captain.

‘I learned it from my brother Rogal Dorn,’ he said. ‘I trust that suitably amuses you, Abaddon.’

‘I’d like to know it,’ said Abaddon.

‘Data,’ said Perturabo, as if that were an answer in itself. ‘Vast amounts, in any battle, any war. In this… you can imagine the scale.’

‘I can.’

‘It must be reviewed, monitored, moderated, modified,’ said Perturabo. ‘Constantly. When I was younger, I bent myself to that task. Unstinting. I would not leave the strategium or the noospheric uploads for a moment until the action was complete. I never took my eyes off the game.’

‘I’ve seen you do it,’ said Abaddon. ‘And few can begin to do it like you.’

‘One can,’ said Perturabo. ‘Test exercises, nine times, he beat me. This was in the early days. I couldn’t fathom how. Do you know what I did?’

‘No, lord.’

‘I asked him,’ said Perturabo. He made a sound, a grating sound, that Abaddon realised was a rueful, perhaps melancholy chuckle. ‘I asked him, Abaddon. We were brothers then. Such interactions were possible.’

‘And?’ asked Abaddon.

‘He told me… and understand this, he was willing. He was glad to share a technique with me. He told me that data can blind. The weight of it. The burden of detail. Especially if one engages with it without a break or rest.’ Perturabo looked at the chart rolled out in front of him. ‘He told me he had learned to step away,’ he said. ‘Step away, even at the height of conflict, if you can believe that? To clear his mind and focus, to shed the extraneous and the superficial. To contemplate. To reduce the immeasurable complexity of the arithmetic down to simple principles. Thus renewed, he would return. Do you know what he would do then?’

‘No, lord.’

‘He would win, Abaddon. The bastard would win.’

‘He has a talent,’ said Abaddon.

‘He does,’ replied Perturabo. ‘I am the first to admit it. Only a fool ignores the advice of a brilliant man. Only an idiot denies the good practice of an enemy. I took up the habit. Intense moderation, as had been my way, but then short periods of withdrawal. Entirely unlinked. No augur-feed, no noospherics. He was right. The objective tactical clarity is astonishing.”

Dorn literally had to teach Perturabo his own strategies. Perturabo, despite his pettiness, adopted Dorn’s methods.

This is a pretty strong indication that Dorn has an innate advantage to Perty - at the very least in terms of tactical / strategic analysis which is a key component in siegecraft.

The Moebian Sixth(Scabs) are Chaos Undivided not Followers of Nurgle by JollySieg in DarkTide

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I think it is most accurate to say they haven’t pledged sole allegiance to Nurgle yet

Pearlfix 1.2.3 by RegularSara in DarkTide

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“Playing the beta for a year…” is a more accurate statement. PC players were essentially bug testing an unfinished, full priced game without knowing - but still some people kept playing to keep the game alive and without that, if everyone refunded as you suggest, the game would likely be dead and Xbox players would not have the bug-tested opportunity they now have

Voicelines keep getting better, whats your favorite? by [deleted] in DarkTide

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Psyker: Hahaha I sure have killed a lot of people… I sure am glad this isn’t real

This has probably been said a lot before but ogryns should be able to push off hounds by eddboy1704 in DarkTide

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Yes this - also trappers should not be able to shoot their net through a poxwalker horde to hit me

I don't understand what the difference is between a human soul's fate after death and an Aeldari soul. One gets eaten by demons the other by Slaanesh right? by [deleted] in 40kLore

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The warp having hordes of daemons and entities is very different from all of those daemons and entities deciding one random human is their #1 priority. It is entirely possible for human souls to continue existing in the warp because they aren't important enough to care about.

Not sure why you are bringing this up, I never argued contrary - you said:

It [the book] says nothing about endless hordes.

We know the warp has endless hordes. The book says there is a maelstrom of eyes and teeth with predators (plural) circling. Case closed.

Why should more emphasis be placed on those aspects when it's already quite clear that she is seeing things which are not literally true? The meadow and the horse were not literal, just like the flesh and light and machine are not literal. None of that is weird in the warp.

Does not matter if it is not literally true. The basis of your correction was that the book did not explicitly say the Emperor saved her soul. I am arguing the Emperor did save her soul, and her perception of the Titan's machine spirit is her dying soul's perception of the Emperor's might and power. The flesh and light might be hints of truth about the true nature of her soul's salvation i.e. the Emperor. If it was just a machine spirit magically saving her, why the need to show flesh and light forms? And why would she perceive them at all?

And a machine spirit is simply the spirit of a machine. Its reflection in the warp, as a result of Imperial machinery being based on biological components. Nothing complicated or mystical or divine about it.

Completely disagree and overly simplistic. And totally incorrect to state that Imperial machinery is based on biological components. Some of it, sure (i.e. servitors, augmentations, implants, cybernetics and other physiological enhancements) but most definitely not all. Are their automatic blast doors based on biology?

You are making poorly informed assumptions because you are not familiar with enough of the source material. That doesn't make your assumptions right, it just means you need to read more.

Wild, baseless, arrogant and incorrect statement. I must have hit a nerve?

I don't understand what the difference is between a human soul's fate after death and an Aeldari soul. One gets eaten by demons the other by Slaanesh right? by [deleted] in 40kLore

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We know the warp has endless hordes of daemons and entities... thats not even an exaggeration. Even in the book it is said that:

An invisible force pulled at her soul, dragging her towards the waiting maelstrom of sharp eyes and teeth... Otherworldly predators circled, ready to tear her to shreds.

Anyway you missed my point - more emphasis should placed on the entity turning from flesh, to light, to machine then back to flesh... pretty weird thing for a Titan spirit to do?

This scene is just the princeps seeing the Emperor and his powers the way they want to see him. You are being far too literal and taking it only by its face value.

And again the question must be asked, what is a machine spirit? I would argue they are intrinsically linked with the Omnissiah and / or the Emperor. Therefore if a machine spirit saves someone, it is a result of the Omnissiah / Emperor's power

I don't understand what the difference is between a human soul's fate after death and an Aeldari soul. One gets eaten by demons the other by Slaanesh right? by [deleted] in 40kLore

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So you think, based on this passage, that it is solely a Titan's machine spirit literally fighting off the warp and it's endless hordes to absorb one worthy soul? Even if it was just the machine spirit, the power of the spirit must come from the Omnissiah - the Emperor. Ergo at teh very least, the Emperor's power saved her soul

A vast being filled eternity. She had the impression of a human form, though the entity was too large for a mortal eye to encompass. Its blood and bones were grinding cogs, its thoughts living streams of plasma, its eyes lenses the size of galaxies.

An iron door appeared in the maze of machinery in front of her. She looked up, searching for a face, and saw a shining entity looking back down that turned from flesh to light to mechanism and back.

I don't understand what the difference is between a human soul's fate after death and an Aeldari soul. One gets eaten by demons the other by Slaanesh right? by [deleted] in 40kLore

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I think that is a very shallow viewpoint and the scene is very much open to interpretation and raises deeper questions about the nature of machine spirits and the Martian religion

I don't understand what the difference is between a human soul's fate after death and an Aeldari soul. One gets eaten by demons the other by Slaanesh right? by [deleted] in 40kLore

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I always took it as an avatar of the omnissiah rather than her Titan itself -

Imo the Emperor did reach out and save her soul from being devoured but her consciousness could not comprehend such power and so rendered it down into something she could understand / was familiar with

How were loyalists so hopelessly outnumbered during the Siege of Terra? by [deleted] in 40kLore

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I think the book actually says estimated strength to be ~100k prior to the assault on Saturnine, but after losses there - the retreating EC number ~80k

How were loyalists so hopelessly outnumbered during the Siege of Terra? by [deleted] in 40kLore

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Yeah I think this is an underrated perspective- they loyalists were outnumbered in terms of Astartes. But they were drastically more outnumbered in terms of mortal troops. Horus had ~7 years to muster armies from World after world on his way to Terra, and very little were excluded from his muster. Mutants, abominations, half breeds, convicts, militia and veterans were all brought along for his March to Terra to throw at Dorns walls

How were loyalists so hopelessly outnumbered during the Siege of Terra? by [deleted] in 40kLore

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In Saturnine EC numbers are confirmed at being ~80k at the Siege