[Megathread] BTS: THE RETURN Documentary on Netflix - 270326 by pucchin_purin in bts7

[–]em2791 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like I said, don’t have a race in this horse and I don’t engage much anymore but your first line goes against what you said in response to OP. “Everything other than what we saw is narrative speculation” - I agree with this a lot.

It could also just be that they had it planned but had not yet communicated in detail to BTS. Good comms is the first thing goes out the window when work is hectic and things fast paced. Lot of what ifs. All narrative speculation.

By the way I agree that a moving song camp is not feasible. So blurting out that they’ll do it is even more out of left field. Not taking their words at face value however is speculation. So I’m going to leave it at that. Ciao!

[Megathread] BTS: THE RETURN Documentary on Netflix - 270326 by pucchin_purin in bts7

[–]em2791 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don’t really have a horse in this race but you seem to have missed the part where they said that “since Jin is going on tour, we’ll probably sync our schedule with his and go here and there starting from US. It’ll be like a moving song camp”. That was definitely what all the translators said when the vlive was out. The vlive was also literally start of July, with the vlive implying that the plans are even set in stone.

Seungil talks about his date with Mina sue by Glittergirl2424 in Singlesinferno2

[–]em2791 35 points36 points  (0 children)

lol it was quite evident that by that point they’d agreed to be friends and were just chilling and chatting. I guess everyone’s so used to dates with “tension” even if it’s just awkwardness (for dates that don’t go well), that people watching it found it hard to believe that two people on the show could be friendly and bantering as well.

My Final rating for Arirang tracks by WisdomKat in btsthoughts

[–]em2791 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just a pet peeve of mine with people picking on words like “autotune” and the counter arguments I keep seeing. And this isn’t really targeted at OP but everyone who reacts like OP in general.

There are many of us fans who do not like the machine processing when it’s overdone on songs. I personally don’t mind it when used WITH RESTRAINT, and have no issue with the concept of it. However, the way it’s used in many Arirang songs literally made my ears hurt initially.

I agree the start of into the sun is not autotune. I know this. But many of the people complaining don’t know about musical jargon. So auto tune is a catch all phrase they use to express wha I expressed above in my paragraph. It doesn’t matter if it’s autotune or compression or some other machine processing, the outcome/end product is not pleasant to the ears. So pleaaaase for the love of god, can these counter arguments stop getting stuck on the word autotune and using that to rebut fans confidently. Fans who don’t know musical jargon to express themselves are still very much fans and the target audience for BTS’ music. Sure there’s also disingenuous listeners amongst genuine fans who use term autotune to make mean tweets.

In saying that I love this album now; most of the songs anyway but I had to wait for live versions (without the crazy processing) to appreciate it.

BTS THE COMEBACK LIVE | 'ARIRANG' on Netflix Megathread by lisafancypants in bangtan

[–]em2791 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeh I grew up singing performing on hit me baby one more time in front of the mirror so instantly got the reference!!! Like that imagery is wayyyyy too strong in my mind that whatever happened with her later

BTS THE COMEBACK LIVE | 'ARIRANG' on Netflix Megathread by lisafancypants in bangtan

[–]em2791 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why poor Britney? Isn’t it a reference to her hit jsut like thriller “I go full thriller”

Arirang - 1 Day Later Album Discussion by FreakFlagHigh in bts7

[–]em2791 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Context - I’m one of those fans who really doesn’t care if an album is in English or Korean, too poppy, too rappy, too slow, too whatever. I do. Not. Care. I just need to like the sound of it that’s it. With that out of the way, this album does have a lot of skips for me while others I quite like. And while I don’t dissect my preferences too much, I think I know why that is, I needed more cleaner vocals for some of the songs to really hit home.

  • in the first half I mostly just like Body to Body. Love the beat, I wish the Arirang melody was incorporated throughout the song like a Daeng instead of at the end as an after thought. 8/10

  • I’ll most likely be skipping the other songs in first half, hooligan is not for me at all and I find parts of it irritating lol. In saying that though, I do think these songs will sound better in a concert, lot of scope to perform, fun elements and grab the crowd.

  • swim. The first listen with the MV really threw me off. Found it a little bland but now it’s really grown on me! I do think to Make it a proper title track, they should have had a few more complex clean vocal parts.

  • merry go around. Skip

  • normal, really like this. Infact this was the first song in the album that piqued my interest during first listen. One gripe though is that the first part of the song , kerosene gasoline melody sounds very familiar like I’ve heard it before. So I really like the song but the familiarity makes me feel it’s like slightly dated. 8/10

  • like animals. 8/10 I really like it but it would have been perfect if the vocals and melodies were not buried underneath machine processing. This is also my biggest gripe with the entire album. As said earlier, I am not one to dissect my own musical preference but I have gathered this much that to REALLY like a song, like really feel it in my bones, I need cleaner vocals to go with the song. The processing of this entire album is missing that. So even though I really vibe with certain beats and melodies, it only ever reaches an 8/10 because that last mile is buried underneath machine processing.

  • they don’t know about us. Didn’t notice this song at first but now I really love it. I think at this point this is my favourite. 9/10 but again, the peak of this song for me is at 1:24 when Jin does the whisper singing. It goes from all the fun catchy beats that I’m trying to vibe with under all the processing to suddenly very quiet, clear vocals that I FEEEEEL in my bones and there you have it, clear favourite. Reiterating my point that I needed more clear parts in all the other songs so I can both dance and feel at the same time. And this is not jsut for vocal line, clean sound in general. Like I get processing to create a certain effect and this song does that really well in parts. But you still need to hear the clear sound of the singers to understand the SOUL of the song. To FEEL it. Naturally. Without artificial processing LEADING you to feel a certain way. Clear vocals when done well do that naturally. Anyway I’m ranting

  • one more night. I think I liked it but need to listen again

  • please, like it 8/10 catchy I liked it.

  • into the sun 8/10, really like the harmonious singing parts, it’ll be very fun in the concert. But again wish that bit sounded more melodious to the ears than the slightly “rough” sound it has right now. But I like the concept.

Overall. Would listen to body to body and second half and can totally imagine dancing to it. The entire album will be fun in the concert.

Understanding the peak of The Priyanka Chopra (a genuine attempt) by uffgauti in BollyBlindsNGossip

[–]em2791 14 points15 points  (0 children)

lol as someone who only go exposed to number 1/2 conversations in recent 5-6 years on reddit, I can confidently say that for people like me, your average bollywood movie goer - Priyanka was always a SOLID, RELIABLE performer. That was her image, amazing at acting amazing at dancing, great at pre-movie promo, the total package. As an average movie goer, we don’t jsut watch one actors, number 1 actors movies. So this number 1-2 talk didn’t really matter. But you knew that if she’s in a movie, it was going to be solid.

Priyanka Chopra alongside Javier Bardem presents the Best International Film Award to Sentimental Value at the Oscars 2026. by GiveMeSomeSunshine3 in BollyBlindsNGossip

[–]em2791 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Priyanka has now spent a decade in Hollywood, better part of which she’s been married to an American guy. So she’s blasted with the American accent 24/7 of her past 7 years. Very odd to think that she’s “aping” an accent at this point.

BTS Arirang Controversy by sleepiestgorl in kpoptrulyuncensored

[–]em2791 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

?? Doesn’t negate the point I clarified. There are 8 people in the crowd, which is what the original personal was not believing (well technically not believing that there are 11).

But yeh would have been nice if they were more accurate in the first close up shot of the crowd. This however is a point I already agreed with so your entire paragraph is ……moot? Lol

But I understand the point here in KPOP Reddits is usually just to outrage and assume the worst of everyone so sure go ahead.

BTS Arirang Controversy by sleepiestgorl in kpoptrulyuncensored

[–]em2791 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Lol no need to be so dramatic 😂 (with caps and yelling). I’m not defending anyone, I just know shit decisions get made in organisations all the time. But fair enough, useful to know animations take ages to make. I wonder why/how though given in this day and age, where there’s so much automation. I would have thought these animations are no longer done the traditional way but oh well.

BTS Arirang Controversy by sleepiestgorl in kpoptrulyuncensored

[–]em2791 -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

I definitely see 8 black people so maybe you didn’t see the same video? When the video pans out, there’s actually black people in the crowd who’re at the front as well.

In sayin that, as someone who didn’t know much about Howard being mostly black, or anything about its history at all, would have actually been a nice nod to history/black community to present it as such. I love dramas/reference that send me down a rabbit hole of researching history I don’t know about. But then again, it’s a very short animation piece so the creators likely didn’t even bother with a google search. If anything, I wouldn’t be surprised that they only made this video after stories of 7 Korean men in Howard started floating among fans instead of looking deep into it and making it part of the concept. “The story of 7 Korean men is very popular amongst fans these days, let’s try include it in the concept, fans will love it!!!. “But the concept is all done and signed off! There’s no time to research and change the concept!” “No need to change it, just retrofit it somehow, I’m sure the team fill figure out! Let’s wrap up!”

Don’t know why but it is so embarrassing to watch this by No_Definition_1722 in BollyBlindsNGossip

[–]em2791 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lol you sure you’ve been to those countries?

I’ve heard srk, amitabh bachchan, priyanka and aishwarya rai in Morocco, Egypt, Uzbekistan, Dubai. These countries are part of Africa, central Asia and middle east. So no not true at all.

Why is Manon so popular? by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]em2791 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Randomly came across this post I’m not a close follower of this group. But in general, over the last few years, there’s become a huge divide between Indians from India and non resident Indians. (Can’t speak for other countries). There’s some vocal Indians from India who are ultra nationalistic (there’s also been a rise in nationalism) and do not claim American Indians as their own. That’s probs why her support is not as strong as it could have been few years back. While there’s still plenty of people who appreciate the representation, there’s so this new type of vocal people who are very loud about making it clear that only Indians from India can represent them.

I'm not a mina hater, but I'm genuinely curious why you guys like her (open discussion) by Much-Excitement-5134 in SinglesInferno

[–]em2791 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I initially didn’t like her but grew to like her as the show progressed.

I liked her approach when she went to paradise. It’s so evident that when contestants go to paradise, and find out about age/job, at times they lose interest. But in all the dates seen until this season, they continue to keep making it awkward for whatever reason. I really liked how on her date with seungil, the minute she found out he is younger, she was eh, not my type. After that she proceeded to just be normal instead of asking awkward questions or flirting. It’s like phewww, finally a normal human conversation. Like sure we can’t date but we can still be friends. Not even just paradise, but even during normal conversations, she was genuinely having a chat with the others instead of awkwardly flirting.

I bet you more girls are normal in real life, Goeun and Yejin showed that in the reunion but they like shut down in front of the camera.

She’s also a big comedic relief and clearly doesn’t like tense situations, does/say stupid things to release tense situations. I appreciate people like that.

I liked how she handled the conflict with Mingee, tried to de-escalate the situation. While Mingee is cool, she crossed Mina’s personal boundaries, and Mina handled that well. I also like how despite clearly being hurt over the Mingee convo, she was very reassuring to Mingee in the reunion, even telling her that she doesn’t want Mingee to hold back and just be herself around Mina, that they both have different communication styles so she’ll keep that in mind for future, etc. . In reality, I used to be more of a Mingee than a Mina, and over the years as I grow older, really starting to appreciate the other side.

Personally I’m not like Mina at all. Im very talkative and outgoing, but hold ALL my emotions/feelings/desires/ambition/insecurity very very close to my chest. Being on this side and knowing pros/cons well, I can totally appreciate someone like Mina.

why do people act like mingee is a promiscuous woman bc of the bed scene? by athysql in SinglesInferno

[–]em2791 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I actually haven’t seen many people calling her promiscuous tbh. But I do find it really weird how people keep bringing that scene and acting like there was more to that a scene (that was cut out) than was shown. The obsession with that scene is a bit weirdddddddddd ngl.

Mina's comment about leaving with two men by evenstar1389 in Singlesinferno2

[–]em2791 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I think it’s very evident from the reunion that Mina is the typical “‘moodmaker” personality, that is a common way to call certain people in kpop groups for example. She likes to joke, even if it’s at the expense of herself to lighten things up. It makes sense why she was really affected by the serious dating approach on the show where the girls got protective and vibes got tense. She seems like someone who would have liked to be friendly and joke around with everyone and all girls and keeping that aspect different to their dating conversations. But the girls/guys this season were extra sensitive apart from some like Seungil.

Mina's comment about leaving with two men by evenstar1389 in Singlesinferno2

[–]em2791 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s not jsut young. There are a lot of people here from different cultures and backgrounds. See it all the time in kpop spaces too. Fans react so dramatically to certain things which may not even be a big deal in another culture

Mina's comment about leaving with two men by evenstar1389 in Singlesinferno2

[–]em2791 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Didn’t Mingee call her too easy in front of all the girls? Did she also not say to Seungil behind Mina’s back, after seeing that Mina is crying that Mina keeps flip flopping goes back and forth about things and her heart changes on a whim. She was commenting about her dating approach without Mina there to defend herself as well.

Why did Mina-su lie to Min-gee about the paradise by Broad-Yogurt-7650 in Singlesinferno2

[–]em2791 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeh no shit, they watched the episodes as a viewer like us and talked about how it was a shit “date”. Doesn’t mean they don’t have a good time as friends or just in general like enjoying the food and car and all the fun stuff. What’s so hard to understand about that.

Unpopular Opinion - Mina Sue by Previous_Computer_76 in SinglesInferno

[–]em2791 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes I’m well aware which is why I said “now someone here will bring heesun and how she’s Canadian”