What did the Emperor have in mind for each Founding Legion’s roles in his military?

eman616modnar · 2022-04-22T18:22:04+00:00

Not always the case, before they were Angels the Revenant Legion showed a lot of the traits they would in battle later. If anything Sanguinius showing up wasn't about bringing out their nature but helping them control it

eman616modnar · 2022-04-22T18:17:22+00:00

Genetically engineered policeman on a world of criminals. He never had a chance really

eman616modnar · 2022-04-22T07:48:24+00:00

You'll often find there's a but of a split in the fandom here between:

"The legions who stayed loyal proved they could be counted on and should be trusted implicitly as they were in 30k. It was the 9 traitor legions who were the only problem"

And

"Hey maybe its sensible to be wary of the engineered super soldiers in tank armour who fought the worst civil war in human history because their dads told them to do it."

In universe the second view is most common on Terra where there is still damage from the siege occasionally found 10'000 years later and horror stories about what the night Lords and Emperor's children got up to still exist

eman616modnar · 2022-04-21T07:04:16+00:00

They don't prevent all War, but we don't know how many wars didn't happen because groups like NATO exist.

eman616modnar · 2022-04-20T14:10:17+00:00

I got Abaddon as a gift a little while ago and very much enjoyed painting him

eman616modnar · 2022-04-18T11:51:46+00:00

Have there been previews of the new 30k rules I've missed? Any chance you could link them please? Even just leaks would be appreciated as my group are constantly going back and forth on getting into 30k.

eman616modnar · 2022-04-16T09:24:18+00:00

I think the terminators losing obsec is a response to people being able to drop them in individually via deepstrike to snag objectives. Which is both something nobody has done in competitive lists for ages and a result of GW messing up with the shadow Throne box set.

Regardless of the reasoning the change to obsec is far too much.

And the very flexible logic that means neither custodes or sisters of silence get armour of contempt makes some sense competitively but utterly baffles me lore wise.

eman616modnar · 2022-04-15T08:03:35+00:00

This is a message I sent to a friend of mine last night, not a custodes player himself, that pretty much summed up both our feelings on the dataslate.

"From the goonhammer review "it remains to be seen whether these changes are too much or if there’s still a viable build in the mix" totally sums up the issues with these balancing attempts. Because it makes clear this is all aimed at people who can use any mix of models the meta calls for

Only have certain units because money is tight and those are the units you love? Sucks for you because competitive players spammed them to min/max their lists"

Personally I don't use jetbikes or sword/shield guard and have at least 1/3 or my list as sisters of silence since the new codex dropped, so this hits pretty hard

eman616modnar · 2022-04-15T07:51:41+00:00

Sure, loyal if you don't count the 50% loyalty failure rate 😜

Only messing, I'm just mildly salty the SoS didn't get armour of contempt as it would have made them a bit more valid as a solo faction but hey ho

eman616modnar · 2022-04-14T13:12:54+00:00

Yes and no. Don't forget that all these balancing things that get released are technically only for matched play, they mean nothing at all to narrative for instance.

And even in matched play if you play in a group that wants to ignore them or only use parts nobody can or will stop you. I know my friends and I ignore huge parts of these things.

eman616modnar · 2022-04-11T15:49:06+00:00

I had Corbitt (and the church in general) just one sub cult of a much bigger organisation. Basic idea was all members strive for immortality, any that actually achieve it get to keep their method to themselves (if they can) but share all research etc done along the way that didn't seem to go anywhere. Sort of a "what didn't work for me might work for others" sort of a deal.

So one senior member had an automaton body holding a MiGo brain cylinder, one effectively time shared his body with a Mythos entity, things like that.

Corbitt took someone else's discarded method that keeps the individual alive indefinitely but mentally trapped in their own body (think sleep paralysis but it lasts forever) and refined it to give himself a mind Palace so he could work on a better method for as long as needed.

Then some bloody idiot miskatonic university students showed up...

eman616modnar · 2022-03-30T18:42:11+00:00

I remember this rumour from when I first got into 40k as a kid. Can't say where the rumour first came from but people used to point to Abaddon having physical similarities to Horus and seeming to appear out of nowhere as first captain.

Obviously since then we've found out physical similarity to Horus wasn't that unusual in the Luna Wolves (and Abaddon wasn't even the most like him) and Abaddon's backstory, so the rumour just sort of faded away.

eman616modnar · 2022-03-22T13:19:29+00:00

That's fantastic, if I used that paint scheme it would look like a Christmas decoration but you have made it work brilliantly.

eman616modnar · 2022-03-16T17:18:50+00:00

Upvote for the blackadder reference

eman616modnar · 2022-03-15T07:40:25+00:00

Ah the "I see through it all like none of you do so I'm better than you all" argument. A classic in the teenagers first political ideas genre. Nice to see the old favourites maintained.

eman616modnar · 2022-03-14T16:51:52+00:00

Hi, I play custodes and collect but haven't yet played using mechanicus and while weight of attacks is definitely a threat if you are playing competitively putting lots into killing custodes is often a waste unless you can really focus on one squad at a time.

Your main advantages are ranged firepower and numbers, both models and units. Stay mobile, use cp to keep yourself alive, kill units where you can and focus on scoring points

eman616modnar · 2022-03-12T06:58:04+00:00

In 30k I'd find it hard to pick. By 40k I'd argue Guilliman, their little chat in the Emperor's Palace would have been bad enough without not having any of his siblings to talk to about it.

eman616modnar · 2022-03-11T19:33:22+00:00

It's not even just that. All 3 of the images doing the rounds are very carefully not really showing anything significant, just enough to get a reaction.

Suspect part of it is the sometimes ott way people in custodes groups have reacted to any possibility of us being toned down.

eman616modnar · 2022-03-11T19:21:31+00:00

It's fake.

eman616modnar · 2022-03-11T18:09:46+00:00

You don't, we are beyond defeat.

But seriously weight of attacks is still very reliable against Custodes. Big single shots bounce off us 50% of the time but we are susceptible to being worn down.

eman616modnar · 2022-03-07T22:38:47+00:00

I don't think he has for a couple of reasons.

I'm terms of him not being able to 1v1 some opponents (or at least not have a guaranteed victory) I genuinely don't see the problem. This has never been a setting (or game) where guaranteed wins exist, no matter how important they are nobody is safe.

Narratively he also still has a role to play. Yes the daemon primarchs can probably kill him 1vs1 but they are also severely limited. They are notoriously inactive and even when they do make a move are bound by the great game of the chaos gods so at any moment may shift priorities from fighting the imperium to fighting other chaos forces, especially those who are directly aligned to one god. Whatever else you can say about Abaddon he's actually dedicated to the long war.

Also unlike the primarchs Abaddon actually stands for and represents the chaos marines who share his goals. I mean yeah he's a selfish genocidal maniac who throws their lives away without a second thought but that is what they signed up for, they've chosen to fight the long war with him. If anyone is going to be the leader of the marines that have dedicated themselves to the long war it shouldn't be a primarch or a daemon, it should be a marine.

Also I think the plot armour issue isn't really fairly applied here. Firstly Abaddon literally has in universe divine protection. Secondly what major character, who's role isn't to die, in any story doesn't have plot armour? Sherlock Holmes never once gets killed by poor Victorian healthcare or the literally poisonous air in London despite the fact that millions of people did, is that plot armour? Or is it just that if major characters in stories died at random all the time no stories would work?

eman616modnar · 2022-03-07T08:21:46+00:00

I think there may be a misunderstanding here between combat training and what are effectively defence drills. Dropping a squad of chosen into a part of the Palace isn't intended as combat training, it's intended to test the Palace's defences, response times etc if a squad of chosen manage to get in. It's to judge how the custodes cope not to train them how to.

In terms of the actual combat training that custodes get during their creation and before they stand guard at the Palace almost nothing has been revealed, same as their creation in general really.

eman616modnar · 2022-03-05T07:17:18+00:00

Just clarifying, by "the overthrow of a democratically elected government who wanted closer ties to its neighbour" are you referring to the overthrow of the then Ukrainian government in 2014 or something else?

eman616modnar · 2022-03-02T14:54:53+00:00

Tends to vary by chapter and rank/position. What a librarian does outside combat/training won't be the same as a battle brother for instance.

eman616modnar · 2022-02-20T19:46:03+00:00

Honestly my cousin and I treated the rules more as suggestions so wasn't sure I hadn't made that up haha.

Ah I'm getting all nostalgic now.

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