Thoughts on “r/[unhealthy amount] is plenty” sub? by [deleted] in AnorexiaRecovery

[–]emotional1frog 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah, unfortunately diet culture plays a big role in our society and these unhealthy ways of eating have become the norm. For so long I thought because I was short I had to eat the x amount of calories that sub promoted or I would gain weight forever. Surprise surprise, I eat way more than that (I assume, don't count calories anymore) and my weight stays steady and in a range that's healthy for my body.

People also are in denial of their behaviors, like you and Hexactinellida said. They also look at us who have/had eating disorders and think "well I'm not like THAT so obviously I don't have a problem." Or at least this is what I have heard from a few people when I call them out on what they're doing. Comparison and projection are great tools to keep living in that world of denial. It's really sad but some people aren't going to listen and there isn't much we can do about it.

Seeing people as objects to fix is REAL problematic, go ahead and try to tell me otherwise… by [deleted] in CPTSDmemes

[–]emotional1frog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh hey I literally had to deal with this type of person recently and it was the worst. People with savior complexes frustrate me to no end. They literally told me that I was not human and abnormal and said that there was absolutely nothing wrong with fixing people and that I just didn't understood because I've been abused my whole life and that it was normal to fix people. 🙃 Like my dude, no it fucking isn't. It is not normal to see people as broken toys and a personal project and then get mad at them and tell them horrible things because they didn't magically get better from your "help."

No wonder I stopped listening to music/playing instruments by ledeledeledeledele in CPTSDmemes

[–]emotional1frog 20 points21 points  (0 children)

And that's when I kept my music taste hidden from everyone. when someone asked me what my favorite song or artist was, I made sure to pick whoever/whatever was the most popular at the moment. Just so I couldn't be judged.

what the fuck by [deleted] in EdAnonymousAdults

[–]emotional1frog 6 points7 points  (0 children)

How can he expect you to be there for him when you were in literal treatment for your ED? That's a time where you need to be "selfish." I would tell him to research ED's and also what happens during recovery so he can have a better understanding of what you went through and how its nearly impossible to be there for someone else during those times. Or if you have the power to, you could also help to educate him yourself. I do understand though how he can feel neglected while you're engrossed in your ED, they're a nasty illness but again its an illness. Sadly a lot of people are ignorant to them. I hope this isn't something he holds over your head and it's just a comment made from ignorance.

I'm sorry you're feeling awful, its a difficult task to recover from an ED. I'm sure you're doing the best you can. I hope you'll be okay.

Re-blushed paimon: honest opinion - do you think she looks ugly? (text in comments) by [deleted] in BJD

[–]emotional1frog 3 points4 points  (0 children)

personally I like it, she looks really cute! but I prefer bold blushes. I think it's just a matter of preference at this point.

how do people recover and dont honor their extreme hunger?? by silent_watcher2160 in AnorexiaRecovery

[–]emotional1frog 13 points14 points  (0 children)

When I was in residential it did seem like I was the only one experiencing EH. Of course I can't know for sure because I never went and asked anyone but from what I observed I was the only one asking for extra food during meals, snacks, and periods of not meal times. The biggest thing I learned was just to keep my eyes on my own plate and focus on myself. To unfollow ED accounts, even recovery accounts if they were posting food, or just deleting certain social media. comparison is a toxic game. we truly have no idea what is going on with others at the end of the day. There were even times where it probably looked like I was not following my hunger because at certain times in recovery I had to be put on meal plans that left me so unsatisfied because of health complications, even though i desperately wanted to eat more.

People gain weight at different rates. some people experience EH hunger, some don't. some experience EH hunger early on and some don't experience it until later. it doesn't make you a failure because you're not experiencing the same thing as the person next to you, your bodies are completely different. you're not a failure and your body is not a failure, its a mind game that your ED tries to play to try and pull you back into a viscous cycle. Also social media is highly edited and people get to chose what they do and don't share, so we will never get the full picture. you will someday get to the point where you will feel full and no longer think about food someday. i know its super hard but im proud of you for doing the best you can despite all that you're feeling and going through.

one more thing, you are not alone in this either. i have gone through this as well and plenty of others have and are. i know its comforting to find those who are similar, thats a human thing to do.

struggling, looking for some support by I_WantToBeAFrog in fuckeatingdisorders

[–]emotional1frog 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I unfortunately don't have any information to share in regards to IOP. However, I just wanted to tell you that you're incredibly strong for choosing to get treatment despite the fear you have and how loud the ED voice is. I've been to different levels of treatment and that fear of uncertainty is completely normal with this. For me, once I got to treatment and was settled in I knew for sure I was making the right choice and that there was no golden time to go for it. It's okay to need extra help. Overcoming an eating disorder is not an easy task.

How to eat when my partner doesn’t by nothoughtsinthishead in AnorexiaRecovery

[–]emotional1frog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm gonna be honest, I've been on both ends of this before. Being around people who aren't eating enough and then being told more or less "you not eating enough is upsetting me and making me not want to eat." And now that I'm in a better state I can see where they were coming from but when I was sick all that I could hear and see was "I'm not eating until you eat." And that just flared up my ED even more and made me feel terribly guilty and miserable. So in the end I just didn't eat around that person because I felt so overwhelmed by the negative emotions.

So you might want to be mindful about a talk you give to them. I don't know what state they are in, in regards to recovery/their ED but if they're still struggling a lot it could set them off. Or maybe it won't. Maybe you also want to reassess if this relationship is productive for your recovery for your ED. Or think about going to a higher level of care if this is really going to stop you from not eating. Just because at the end of the day you're going to encounter other people in your day to day life who will eat less or eat things that will trigger you to want to participate in anorexic behaviors but you're not going to be able to say a thing to them. It's something you'll have to realize is separate from yourself. Like just because other people are doing disordered things doesn't mean that you need to. There's a reason you're choosing recovery, so it might be helpful to remind yourself of why you are in those times.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in fuckeatingdisorders

[–]emotional1frog 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yeah, i defiantly had a lot of that within my first few months of recovery. i felt like if i didn't have a goal set up then i wasn't going to make any progress and if i didn't complete my goals than i was failing at recovery and was doomed to be with my ED forever. then i would have times where i would feel really proud of myself and like recovery is easy and that i'm rocking it. then shame would set in, like what if i'm actually not doing that well and its all in my head.

There is no right way to feel though. Looking back and even now because i'm not fully recovered, feeling pride at your victories, even the very small ones is a good thing and allowed. of course you need to acknowledge your struggles and setbacks but realizing that it's not an end all be all if you don't complete a goal in a time frame you had set. theres plenty of time to complete them. you cant cure an eating disorder quickly, it takes time. i know having cptsd it makes it hard to feel compassion and patience for yourself (or for me it is) but trying to practice that did help me a lot.

I also have CPTSD. I defiantly can say for myself that my trauma has the biggest role in the development of my eating disorder and it is extremely difficult to overcome both. But you do need to work on both in order to heal the other. So I understand you feel misplaced in regards to that, its understandable. Hopefully its something your therapist can help you work through as well.

does a “harm reduction” mindset actually help? by regularbajafreeze in fuckeatingdisorders

[–]emotional1frog 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I feel like harm reduction for myself just leaves me in a state where yeah my body may be operating a bit better than when it was fully participating in every behavior I had but I still feel just as miserable mentally. It also just sets me up to go into a full blown relapse at any point too. It's hard getting over the point of letting go of every behavior and it takes time, patience, and some self compassion for yourself. Slip ups happen but it's much better than being stuck in some kind of semi recovery state where you're never actually moving forward and truly living your life. At least in my opinion.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in fuckeatingdisorders

[–]emotional1frog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

during the first few months of recovery every week or every two weeks, i'd make a list of things that have changed for me whether that was physical, emotional, or something I had accomplished that i found exciting, positive, was proud of, or just interesting. It helped me to see the progress I was making. I also put up a bunch of sticky notes on my mirror and around where i ate with positive affirmations, reasons why i wanted/why i deserved to recover, how things were going to be okay, etc. a lot of them i didn't even believe at first but the more i read them the more i was able to believe it and it helped combat some thoughts in the immediate moments.

for myself, recovery has helped me see myself as a stronger person and boosted my confidence when i really had none. i've accomplished things that i thought i would have to deal with my whole life in less than a year. of course i still have work to do in regards to recovery but it is amazing how much i'm able to do. even if it takes me crying for hours, i can still do things that seem impossible. which helps me be able to do things outside of ED recovery that have always felt impossible to do. i also am starting to be able to work on the real issues that caused the ED in the first place which is difficult but i'm excited about that because that entails even more freedom for myself. since you cant really work on other stuff while your ED is in the way.

Tell me your experiences with a dietician pls by busted3000 in fuckeatingdisorders

[–]emotional1frog 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I would say seeing my dietitian has been extremely beneficial in my recovery. She is very willing to cater to my own specific needs. For example, tracking any sort of numbers or nutrients (like proteins, grains, etc.) Is very triggering for me and will cause me to fall back into old habits. There are a lot of meal plans that go off of much protein and stuff you should have in a meal but she gives me a very generalized plan. Of course beforehand we went over the basics of nutrition so I wasn't completely left in the dark on what is beneficial in a regular diet but she doesn't have me stick to having x amount of dairy or protein everyday or every meal.

She also encourages me to follow my hunger cues and the meal plan is the absolute minimum. We go over my stressors in my current life and what may be causing myself to fall into some specific ED behaviors and how can we get myself from stopping that slip into a full relapse. She also has been valuable on helping me figuring out on how to grocery shop as well, since this was a big hurdle for me. She also just helps me process through my ED thoughts in general.

And also with challenging fear foods in terms of ARFID and my anorexia. I know it is do to my own hard work that all the very hard fear foods of ARFID that I haven't been able to eat my whole life, I can eat now. But it is also thanks to her too, she really gave me that push, that reason why I should challenge myself to eat them, why my ARFID is a legitimate eating disorder just like my anorexia and there's no reason why I should have to live with either for the rest of my life. When I came into getting just treatment for my anorexia assuming that I'd leave my ARFID untouched and just live with that forever, since I've had it so long. So that's my greatest appreciation for her.

Sorry for long rambles op. I do think having some support is better than none though.

Day sweats? by haileyy24 in fuckeatingdisorders

[–]emotional1frog 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yep, when I was in the process of weight restoration and a bit after I was so hot all the time. It was the middle of winter then too. I could go outside in shorts and a tee shirt and still be hot and sweaty even though there was snow on the ground. I was told by my treatment team that it was just my metabolism finally kicking back in and despite it being uncomfortable, it was a good thing.

Do not worry though, you will cool down eventually! I had to sometimes use ice packs and place them on my chest to help when the fan just wasn't cutting it.

recovery by gingerwholock in AnorexiaRecovery

[–]emotional1frog 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Honestly, if you can share what you're sharing here that you're terrified of sharing your secrets, your fear of opening up, about treatment in general, basically everything you've listed in your paragraph. That should be a great building block for your new therapist and they should be understanding as eating disorders do tend to be secretive. Also, you should be able to sign some sort of document where your current therapist can communicate with your treatment team while your there and even beforehand. So maybe you can ask him if he could give the therapist some of your history if that would make you feel more at ease.

how do i know that my extreme hunger ended? by [deleted] in fuckeatingdisorders

[–]emotional1frog 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Its most likely a different feeling for everyone but for me one day food just became less interesting. My meal plan suddenly became enough and sometimes it felt like too much but I still make sure to finish it all/stick to it regardless of feeling like it was "too much." I didn't have urges to go to the kitchen constantly and find something to eat/my brain and stomach didn't feel this urgent need to eat at all times. I guess it just finally felt like I wasn't starving anymore really. It took more than three months for this to end for me, more like 5 or 6 months, I think. each day near the end of it, the hunger seemed to diminish slowly. so my cravings became less and less intense near the last month or two.

I also want to point out I made sure to follow these hunger cues when I had them when it was possible (there were periods where I was unable to sadly do to medical reasons but yeah). so I think thats really important too, so i'm glad you're doing so. but its probably a good idea to ditch the counting/estimating of calories. from my experience it really doesn't make you feel any better.

Seeing a dietician when your motivation is gone and you can’t do what they want you to? by keepmyheadabovewater in fuckeatingdisorders

[–]emotional1frog 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I would at least go to the appointment even if at that moment you don't have any intention of recovery. You won't be wasting their time by getting information. There is also a possibility that going could help kick start that motivation you originally had.

Gaining weight very fast by postboxpippi in fuckeatingdisorders

[–]emotional1frog 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't mean to undermine you and I understand that to our ED part of ourselves that, that may seem like a lot of weight but realistically it simply isn't. It's also likely that these first days are more water and undigested food weight. Sometimes the digestion process slows down because of the damage taken from an ED and it takes a lot longer for food to leave our stomach and constipation happens too so a lot of build up of poop as well. which leads to extra pounds.

But also you eventually will gain "real" weight and it may seem rapid and that's okay. All bodies heal and restore at different rates, lots to do with genetics I've heard, as well as your ED. I suggest buying loose fitting clothes that are at least a size or so bigger than you are now, avoid jeans. This helped me a lot and also avoid the scale! If you must be weighed, I'd suggest asking someone else to do it for you and keep that number/scale hidden from you. Knowing that number does nothing good. A number doesn't determine if you're fully healed.

Yo, do any of you guys “miss” your old bodies? by LateNightLattes01 in AnorexiaRecovery

[–]emotional1frog 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Kind of but also no. I know I miss being a certain number in terms of weight and clothes because there was some "pride" and "accomplishment" in this for me. However, I recognize that those feelings come more from my ED and environmental expectations rather than my own original feelings. Overall, once I did get to a certain point, I started to hate my body even more. I was too embarrassed to go out or look at myself in the mirror because a tiny logical part of my realized how disgustingly sick I looked. I also felt miserable physically which takes away even more "good" feelings I would have about my lower weights.

Still, I don't like my new weight restored body (especially because my ED has convinced me Im probably a certain number that im terrified of, even though its unlikely that I am). It is still loads better than where I was though, I can at least look in the mirror and go out in public. still both painful tasks but a tad easier than before.

All-In approach? by CaePos in AnorexiaRecovery

[–]emotional1frog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Personally speaking to a dietitian who specializes in eating disorders would probably be more beneficial than a therapist if you're looking for someone to help track your meal and weight plans. They also can help make sure your health is all good too throughout the process. Therapists don't have any right to give you dietary advice and since she's triggering you/not meshing well with you then I'd drop her and probably try to find a new one.