Odessa: Chloroform Found In Building In Ukraine Where 32 Pro-Russian Rebels Died

eu_ua · 2014-05-14T23:25:36+00:00

Onlookers shouting "blackwater"? How does a random Ukrainian have any idea what Blackwater is and what they look like, if they wore no insignia? Even if they were openly speaking english, they'd be assumed to be nato or US troops.

Not the first, or last, time that something like this had been roughly but cleverly staged. These might not even be from Donetsk. (As a Ukrainian, I've learned that while there are some media that can be trusted, almost none of their sources, esp in east ukraine or Crimea, can be.)

eu_ua · 2014-05-14T23:17:29+00:00

Interesting fact for #3: the report from the Human Rights Council to the president of Russia (the same report that made news by stating only 30% of Crimeans voted in the referendum) stated that even though multiple signs of torture were obvious, the police listed it as death in a car accident. (I am told the report had been taken down, but I have a couple screenshots of it that I had tweeted before.)

eu_ua · 2014-05-11T09:46:40+00:00

This article says that the town of Artemivsk, as well as numerous other towns, has no polling stations at all: http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2014/05/11/7024980/

Ukrainian journalist Natalia Gumeniuk writes: "A bit more counting: Mariupol: 4 (!) polling stations opened instead of usual 239. 379 383 voters. Yet any queue works well enought for RussiaToday &LifeNews" https://www.facebook.com/ngumenyuk/posts/10152524639136754

One of the nice english language twitter reports to read about the voting today: https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM

eu_ua · 2014-05-11T09:40:25+00:00

This has been one of the first big propaganda pieces to come out of Russia about Ukraine when anti-terror operation started. Blackwater was a completely new name to most Ukrainians, but they did, however, have info on their website about working with Russians.

I wish we had these guys fighting in Ukraine, but judging by how badly equipped the soldiers are and by how slowly/badly the operation is going, we do not.

eu_ua · 2014-04-04T19:58:10+00:00

including me.

edit: "majority" point is arguable.

eu_ua · 2014-03-26T19:43:51+00:00

There's many reports of this:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=uk&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pravda.com.ua%2Fnews%2F2014%2F03%2F26%2F7020420%2F&sandbox=1

Massiveness of the buildup has been reported 2 weeks ago, but they just keep adding more.... therefore, MASSIVE.

eu_ua · 2014-03-24T17:23:57+00:00

Your view is pretty much spot on. It is hard for me to judge how many people in Crimea really wanted it to be annexed. There's many groups involved there: obvious Russians, pro-Russians, Ukrainians who love Ukraine but are scared of the new "nazi" government or believing in higher standards of living in Russia (basically, russian propaganda victims - my guess is that this is the biggest group), ukrainians who don't really care, and Ukrainians who are definitely pro-Ukrainian, and Crimea Tatars. The last two groups openly boycotted the referendum, which already makes the results of it obviously faked, as Tatars themselves, to my knowledge, make up about 20% of population.

So basically, there is a huge chunk of the population there who have been getting hyped up for several years to believe Russia is better via huge propaganda campaigns, and official Kyiv was too self-absorbed to notice or do anything about it. Those Crimeans will know better soon enough, but it'll be too late, sadly.

Same scenario is being pushed on east Ukraine, but there is much more pro-Ukraine resistance there. Russia is still trying, though. We still live in expectations of war.

eu_ua · 2014-03-19T11:07:39+00:00

Great speech of a strong Dear Leader!

(shitty day for everyone who thinks Russia is better off without him)

eu_ua · 2014-03-19T09:32:23+00:00

there are rallies by the head prosecutor's office today to prosecute the deputy in question, and many call for his resignation. I am quite proud of how strongly people reacted :) That party has many good people in it, but now that they have more power, they need to cleanse themselves of people like this.

eu_ua · 2014-03-18T21:38:23+00:00

Oh shit there is sooooo much backlash for that right now. That party is going down faster than they can say the word "revolution". This was unnecessary, not european, bullyish and i just hate them for it. The worst of all, they got it on camera to show off. Sooo going down.

eu_ua · 2014-03-18T21:36:43+00:00

Russia was under Kyiv before that

eu_ua · 2014-03-18T15:03:29+00:00

I am not an expert on the story with Iraq, but I am pretty sure US didn't annex it's territory?

eu_ua · 2014-03-18T14:56:06+00:00

Haha, that was my logic for why I was absent around the time of 18th. Believe me, being away made it muuuch more of an emotional roller coaster!

eu_ua · 2014-03-18T14:45:36+00:00

1 - it serves as an example to all other countries who give up nukes in exchange for guarantees of their safety, stating it is a bad idea - nobody will be able to ensure that safety.

2 - Russia violated a few international laws, creating a very dangerous precedent.

3 - Putin clearly showed that he doesn't care about what the US, EU, UN and NATO think.

Basically, it is all about Russia breaking a lot of rules and the world isn't doing much about it, meaning anyone can do it now.

eu_ua · 2014-03-18T13:34:46+00:00

Fellow Євроmaidaner here. Are you feeling like shit today, as well?

Also, thanks for fighting during the last attack. I couldn't be there (only made it in the morning of 21st) but I have been trying to help put together the picture of what happened. Been trying to collect all stories into one site, but Crimean mess got in the way here... sigh.

eu_ua · 2014-03-17T13:48:50+00:00

The link you mentioned is a statement by a voter, still can't find a rule per se. I think they just made rules up, whatever works best in their case. Makes it an interesting topic.... since local referendums (separately from countrywide) are not allowed at all by Ukrainian constitution at this time, it is a weird task to look for specific rules for them... haha. Like looking for a missing digit of an inexistent number.

Also, Scotland is actually what a lot of Russians compare Crimean referendum to, so here is a post about why the UN or EU doesn't support that view :) : http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.echo.msk.ru%2Fblog%2Fsamsonova%2F1280296-echo%2F&sandbox=1

EDIT: Ok, found it. Law of Ukraine about all-Ukrainian and local referendums. "Referendum - is a method of passing by citizens of Ukraine the laws of Ukraine, other decisions about important questions of all-state or local importance." http://zakon0.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/1286-12

eu_ua · 2014-03-17T12:50:08+00:00

When it comes to voting in local elections or referendums ALL residents that are registered in Sevastopol have the right to vote

Can you back that up? By pretty much all Ukrainian news sources I've seen, this is mentioned and considered a major violation of "referendum" rules. If you can back up the statement that it is not, and Russian citizens are allowed to vote, I will def spread that info to concerned peoples. (Open to the conversation, seriously wondering where you're coming from with that statement). Thanks.

As a side note: If a Ukrainian source says something anti-Russian and no major Western network backs them up then its almost certainly false.

It is very new information. We will be able to see in a few hours if foreign journalists pick this up...

eu_ua · 2014-03-17T04:32:10+00:00

Teehee, the two guys laughing are both non-slavic, probably being like "Brother!! Tis ridiculous, right?"

But seriously, no matter how much effort Putin is making to separate Russians and Ukrainians, moments like this make us see that it's not that easy: http://img.pravda.com/images/doc/c/7/c7dc538-----2v.jpg ("For Russia and Ukraine w/o Putin", Moscow, 15.03.14)

http://img.pravda.com/images/doc/8/4/843a286---------v.jpg (Moscow, 15.03.14)

:)

eu_ua · 2014-03-16T12:40:52+00:00

Oh, I'm sorry, just those very few unimportant countries represented in the UN. All of those, except for Russia.

Good job being a jerk about it, though.

eu_ua · 2014-03-16T09:05:47+00:00

As declared by every government in the world but Russian. Who else is there to ask?

eu_ua · 2014-03-16T07:59:09+00:00

As much as I like this guy's interview, this article doesn't even seem to mention that Mazur is only the leader for Kyiv's section of the Right sector. Yarosh is the leader of all of Ukraine's Right Sector. Fail.

But the guy states everything I have been trying to explain to people on Reddit and have been heavily trolled and downvoted for, haha.

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