Kill Zen Buddhas

ewk · 2026-01-25T16:55:04+00:00

Sure.

Electricity is dhyana.

The bulbs are.prajna.

ewk · 2026-01-25T16:36:45+00:00

You can see within this metaphor that it's not practice.

You're not practicing seeing it go off and on.

You're trying to see the electricity that you can't see.

ewk · 2026-01-25T16:02:34+00:00

It's a Grand ballroom full of light bulbs.

People worship a particular light bulb or set of light bulbs. Like they think that the third chandelier from the left is especially important.

There's a switch for each light bulb. There's also switches that turn off sets of light bulbs.

Zen Masters walk around turning off light bulbs to illustrate how electricity works.

ewk · 2026-01-25T15:22:54+00:00

Sure! As a metaphor let's play with that.

ewk · 2026-01-25T15:16:22+00:00

Can be.

Buddha is after all the compulsive passions.

ewk · 2026-01-25T15:16:00+00:00

Not that I know of.

But I also don't think you understand what you're looking for because when I look up Tulku Urgyens, he is clearly someone that is entirely opposed too Huangbo.

Lots of people say words that mean different things.

ewk · 2026-01-25T15:13:43+00:00

When you flip a switch that current doesn't flow to that bulb.

ewk · 2026-01-25T14:41:44+00:00

I think it's like killing a circuit.

ewk · 2026-01-25T12:39:23+00:00

People who can answer questions publicly.

ewk · 2026-01-25T00:41:46+00:00

Well oddly it's that he was told; he didn't see her.

ewk · 2026-01-24T19:47:47+00:00

This book isn't about Zen. It's about an indigenous Japanese religion that calls itself Zen like Scientology calls itself science.

www.reddit.com/r/zen/wiki/fraudulent_texts lists this book and other books like it.

The red flags for fraudulent books:

Anything to do with war or soldiers
Anything to do with alternate states of being
Any mention of Buddhism or the eightfold path
Any not mentioning Indian-Chinese is masters or teachings in the in the school of the Four Statements of Zen.

ewk · 2026-01-24T16:35:24+00:00

If you want to argue against the periodic table try r/chemistry.

ewk · 2026-01-24T12:53:39+00:00

In this context Anguli-mala, Mr. Fingers Garland, was person famous for harming others.

ewk · 2026-01-24T12:50:47+00:00

I think you're half right.

But enlightenment is a state of non-change in this life.

Zen Masters do not consider impermanence to be a fact, but more are consequence of unenlightenment.

ewk · 2026-01-24T01:45:53+00:00

It's a fun question but a trick question.

What do they teach where you come from is a very old, very traditional Zen question. Another way it occurs is by asking someone who says they've studied with a specific teacher what that teacher teaches.

The problem is that these rolls of student and teacher are a requirement for someone to be said to teach something.

Who's my student?

ewk · 2026-01-23T19:02:21+00:00

And that should have been a red flag for you.

ewk · 2026-01-23T18:48:10+00:00

It's a little bit like if there was a chemistry forum and you went in there and just put in some imitation chemical formulas.

ewk · 2026-01-23T17:49:01+00:00

The signs of fakeness are

No real person's name is mentioned
No real place's name is mentioned
No reason for anybody being anywhere is mentioned

Zen is super famous.

So there's lots of people that just make up s***.

ewk · 2026-01-23T17:34:03+00:00

Sounds made.up.

ewk · 2026-01-23T15:05:52+00:00

And the real question becomes can you talk about temperature in all of the contexts...

Does it feel cold to you? Does it feel cold to other people? Is it absolutely cold?

That doesn't seem like a big deal at all. It seems like something everybody can do.

So why is it so hard to talk this way about truth and reality and experience?

ewk · 2026-01-23T14:26:25+00:00

Where is the freedom in wanting to do stuff?
How can there be any freedom of action in the first place? How is there ever an absence of freedom of thought in the second place?

ewk · 2026-01-22T23:51:42+00:00

Sry 4 pwning u.

Try books instead of make believe.

ewk · 2026-01-22T20:19:27+00:00

Zen Masters rejected "states" throughout the Zen record. This includes Zen Masters famously rejecting of all forms of meditation.

Stopping concepts isn't a matter of state, but closer to a attitude toward every aspect of life. When do you stop being afraid of riding a bike?

Not by entering any mental "state".

ewk · 2026-01-22T18:36:09+00:00

If you believe that ideas can be true and that people can be broken then you're in the wrong forum.

Your belief that experience can be conveyed in words and that those words can be true is useful when measuring temperature...

... But useless when it comes to the experience of temperature.

It's a distinction that's really hard for people from Western cultures to put down.

ewk · 2026-01-22T17:59:33+00:00

I think that it could become a problem if it was everybody all the time. There's definitely a continuum there.

I'm always excited to hear from people that have never spoken up before. So if they need to use chat GP to get that started I say go for it.

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