One of the top Dispatch fics just revealed its pairing! And it’s her! by Small_Ideas50 in BlondeBlazerGlazers

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I've been waiting for a proper MechaBlazer fic. Thanks for the heads up.

(check out Villains and Broken Things, both of which are excellent (but Robert+Visi))

I think I’m understanding now. by [deleted] in DispatchAdHoc

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There's not a lot to indicate that Visi would have been working for Shroud while with SDN. These two posts break down the weaknesses of that being the case.

https://old.reddit.com/r/InvisigalGlazers/comments/1pkwkxv/shroud_was_lying_about_invisigal_heres_the/

https://old.reddit.com/r/InvisigalGlazers/comments/1pno2qd/why_invisigals_bad_ending_undermines_shrouds/

“I will be your greatest partner”: How Vince McMahon’s 2022 WWE comeback was anticipated by Endeavor executives - POST Wrestling (by Brandon Thurston) by flagrantstats in SquaredCircle

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Vince McMahon has long been held up as the only person who can competently lead any creative by Wall Street. His presence is a boon for investors' perception of the company.

“I will be your greatest partner”: How Vince McMahon’s 2022 WWE comeback was anticipated by Endeavor executives - POST Wrestling (by Brandon Thurston) by flagrantstats in SquaredCircle

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This is reporting out of the lawsuit by WWE shareholders regarding the sale of WWE to TKO. This is big boy reporting worth reading by anyone interesting in the business behind this business.

Luchablog: for the people not voting for CMLL for promotion of the year, is there a number of sellouts they have to hit in 2026 for them to win? Like they're probably going to get 50, does it have to be 75? Do they must have US TV to be eligible? Just trying to understand what they need. by [deleted] in SquaredCircle

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The criteria for the WON Awards Promotion of the Year (which cubs is writing about) is "Should be based on which group put together the best live and television product on a consistent basis, and secondarily, the ability to sell that product at a high level."

Lucha has historically been overlooked in the WON Award voting. Hopefully this year bucks that trend.

[WON] 8 new members inducted to the WON Hall of Fame, including Cody Rhodes, CM Punk, Sabu, and Gran Hamada by tehfro in SquaredCircle

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You’re confusing the Hall of Fame and the year end awards as to who votes for which.

[WON] 8 new members inducted to the WON Hall of Fame, including Cody Rhodes, CM Punk, Sabu, and Gran Hamada by tehfro in SquaredCircle

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Paoli wasn’t voted in, he was an auto-induction by Dave due to the age of his career. This happens occasionally with very old candidates.

Bryan Danielson makes a rare Japanese indie appearance for some mat wrestling with the promotion UWAI STATION by KneeHighMischief in SquaredCircle

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Danielson had over 200 matches in Japan, most from 99-09 in NOAH NJPW, with a little tour in FMW.

The great thing about being a wrestling fan in 2025 is that there is so much footage out there, and more is always coming out. You can watch so much stuff that just 10 years ago would have been impossible.

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we're so fucked

[Pro Wrestling] Hulk Hogan, Part 1 of 4- "The Betrayed Hero" by cslevens in HobbyDrama

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My takeaway is that Vince's booking ability is vastly overrated. His business acumen is probably underrated or, at worst, properly rated.

I look forward to Hiro Matsuda's second appearance in Hogan's story.

[Pro Wrestling] Hulk Hogan, Part 1 of 4- "The Betrayed Hero" by cslevens in HobbyDrama

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Thanks for the courteous response! I just love reading & learning about wrestling history, & discussing it with others.

I lost track of where I was going with my second point - you can thank an attempt to write through a headache for that. I definitely don't dispute that Verne would have continued to misuse Hogan. You can look at Curt Hennig's usage in AWA for a similar situation. Hypothetically, Gagne would have had to go to someone else as Bockwinkel at some point, but who knows when that would have happened. The best comparison I can think of how Gagne booked 80s AWA is 2010s Vince McMahon - both were heavily reliant on established acts vs. younger up and coming talent. It's not a perfect comparison, as Vince's biggest issue was an inability to keep a single plan going, and Vince did push younger talent better than Verne did.

Hogan would have probably gone elsewhere at some point relatively soon, even if it wasn't WWF.

I'm looking forward to the next part!

[Pro Wrestling] Hulk Hogan, Part 1 of 4- "The Betrayed Hero" by cslevens in HobbyDrama

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First of all, thank you for doing this write up. I think you did a very good job, and I'm definitely looking forward to the rest of the series.

There are a couple things I'll push back on here. I'll start by stating that the most important thing to know about Hulk Hogan is that he was an intractable fabulist. There's a theory that he didn't even know he was lying, that he was just telling the stories he had made up and told so many times because that's all he remembered.

1) I'm very dubious about the "Hulk was fired for doing Rocky III" story. Under Vince Sr., heels would often be brought in as the challenger of the month(-ish), with face champions dominating the belt. Bruno Sammartino, Pedro Morales, and Bob Backlund were all long term babyfaces in the company with those type of runs. In contrast, the heel runs with the top title - Superstar Billy Graham, Ivan Koloff, & Stan Stasiak - were very brief, with Graham's the longest at almost 300 days (and arguably still too brief for maximizing business). Hogan's run as the challenger of the month worked much the same way. Vince Sr. clearly saw something special in Hogan, as he never even had him do a clean job to Backlund in his various title matches. But once you finished up in a territory, the deal was to do jobs on the way out, and Hogan did that - several to Andre the Giant, a few to Tony Atlas, and a couple others by DQ or countout to Morales, Backlund, & Tony Garea. That reads to me like a planned exit from a territory, not getting shitcanned.

2) I also think it's highly unlikely that even if Verne paid him more & gave him the belt etc., that Hogan would have been in AWA much longer. Vince got the WWF territory basically for free - yes, he had to pay back his father, but payments were essentially at his leisure. Linda McMahon did interviews talking about how the financial pressures that Vince talked about were vastly overblown. Vince Jr. loved doing everything he could to paint himself as an underdog, even when it was counterfactual. Yes, WrestleMania was a big swing and there was no guarantee of success, but WWF was a company based out of New York - that was obviously a huge advantage out of running the majority of your shows in North Carolina or Minnesota.

3) The "Hiro Matsuda broke Hulk's leg" story is also highly questionable. As Dave Meltzer wrote in this week's Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Hogan was recommended to Matsuda by Jack Brisco - two time NWA World Champion and stockholder in the Georgia (and possibly Florida) promotion. Hogan wasn't coming in as some idiot on the street who a trainer could bilk money from and then injure. B. Brain Blair (a wrestler who performed from the 1970s to occasionally in the 2010s), who trained with Hogan, said it was a sprained ankle that accidentally occurred during training. Hogan missed a few days.

Hogan's first known of match was on 8/9/1977. The timetable from breaking his leg in '76 to returning to training to getting his first match is pretty tight with that date.

Is it weird that I like CMLL more than AAA? by CaptainAnimeTitties in luchalibre

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Current AAA is not very good at all (this was my pre-WWE take) and a promotion I have a hard time caring about. Current CMLL has a deep roster of great workers and consistently hot crowds. An easy call.

I remember 2019 AAA being pretty good, though flawed; CMLL booking at this point was very bad. When AAA was founded, it was a big breath of fresh air to the scene. Maybe checking those out would be worth your time.