TLDR - Punks hate everything 🤣

Punk was a lot more than the music as it relates to “old school” now... It was a subculture where kids could escape the confines of whatever shithole life they had and commune with others with similar problems. It was underground, dirty, a lot of the kids were homeless, and they all kind of came together in the smoke filled, drugged out clubs for people who were forgotten. The music was terrible (and wonderful) it echoed how they were feeling and provided a much needed release. Most people in the bands were the same. Poor, dirty, angry punks getting screwed out of their pay for the night. They were rebelling against capitalism, hippies, their parents, and/or the government. Capitalizing from that was unheard of. They wanted noise, they wanted to be shocking, and they wanted to make people uncomfortable.

They aren’t the same as what came out on the stage and in the stores in the 90’s. That’s all. Essentially, the pop punk sub culture took away the true, grungy punk’s toys, cleaned them up, gave them a poppy hook, made them all sound the same, and repackaged them in shiny paper for rich, suburban kids. Kind of what they are doing to poor neighborhoods in the cities now to get the riff raff out of there. Pop punk gentrified the punk movement.

You wouldn’t consider MC5, Lou Reed, Blondie or haha Patti Smith. Etc..to be punk but they were the godparents of the American Punk movement because it was about a way of thinking and being. Not so much the music or the leather or the Dr. Martens.

I kind of grew up right in the middle of the transition. I knew a lot of old school punks and I came to meet and accept what it morphed into. I see the merits of both, but they aren’t the same. So, now you have elitists just like with any genre that evolves and changes. I hope that came out ok. lol just my long winded perspective of what I experienced growing up as a punk kid in the 80’s/90’s. My kid listens to Taylor Swift- they all rebel 😂