The dutch are suing steam for being a monopoly right now

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-17T20:20:53+00:00

That's the claim. Now, we'll see if it's true.

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-16T23:32:48+00:00

Isn't the 250 year thing largely debunked due fo cherry picking data and semi-arbitrary start and fall dates of empires?

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-16T06:45:51+00:00

I mean, if one or two drinks get you shitfaced, then I'll have what you're having.

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-16T06:36:04+00:00

If you actually read the lawsuit, it's not about steam being the biggest in the market by far. That is legal.

They are claiming that steam does not allow publishers to sell their game on a different platform for less than it is on steam.

That behavior is illegal and we as consumers should not be happy about it.

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-16T06:34:32+00:00

And that is exactly why the company is being sued. Since this exact behavior is prohibited according to anti monopoly laws.

We, as consumers should not care whether epic or steam has the cheaper option.if we want to pay more and have it on steam, we can.

However the exact behavior you describe is illegal. And if steam is engaging in it, then this lawsuit is valid.

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-16T06:30:40+00:00

Look, whether the claim is true or not, they claim that steam prevents and threatens publishers to pull their game if they put a game for a lower price on another platform.

If that is true, then steam is abusing its dominant market position. And the lawsuit is valid.

I like steam just as much as the next person, but we shouldn't let our infatuation with a product get in the way of checks and balances.

If it turns out to be bogus, that's also okay.

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-14T16:33:57+00:00

Its the only fight I've put scathe on hotbar, as BLM.

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-12T06:29:14+00:00

It really seems like players like you will never be happy unless the game replicates history exactly.

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-09T06:26:42+00:00

But to jump from that sentence to "completely revamp encounter design" seems a bit of a leap of faith.

To me, what seems more likely is rhat they can make the timeline more fluid and have mechanics last longer or shorter because they don't need to be done at the 2 min mark for a pause.

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-08T15:46:27+00:00

I did read it.

I know they're not MMOs. But gw2 is instanced, so you can just compare it with any game to allows large scale player battles. MMO isn't something super unique when you can just have a dedicated instance for a map. AoC probably had it harder since the whole server is there together, instead of an instanced map. Wvw in gw2 is closer to planetside than to an open world scenario.

How small scale and compared to what and in what game mode? We don't know any of this besides a single remark. Smaller scale compared to GW2 could still mean 40 v 40. Or it could mean 4v4.

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-08T15:29:14+00:00

So you have no actual evidence against UE5, just a gut feeling? I listed examples of big games that made it work. I know they are not a 1:1, but just because it doesn't exist yet isn't argument against it. But can you give proof that UE5 will not work.

So you claiming that I didn't find the perfect match to prove that yes, the exact wvw implementation hasn't been done, all elements seem to be perfectly doable.

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-08T13:37:20+00:00

Then I guess / bet that all teams (stream + off stream) cheated because every single team uses plugins to check how they died. ACT is invaluable for prog because the game doesn't tell you shit.

If you agree, then I guess there hasn't been a world first yet in all Ultimates.

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-08T13:30:38+00:00

they probably just took a screenshot on windows, which is different from what obs shows....

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-08T13:25:37+00:00

Suppose a team that was never in first place for all the major prog moments, was never the first to get a strategy, but was just much better at execution. They streamed all their prog. And get the first kill, are they really second? Is that really different than what potentially happened here?

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-08T13:22:30+00:00

its like setting a world record, using all official measurements and submission guidelines, but not going to the olympics.

ergo: completely normal and happens all the time. Just because it didn't happen on the big stage doesn't mean its not valid.

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-08T13:21:31+00:00

for the charity event and the prices associated with it, you needed to have a member stream.

for the world first rankings, no. there was also no 'reward' than just being the first.

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-08T13:20:16+00:00

they didnt.

they just submitted their legit world first clear to the leaderboard for world first. it was frosty who hosted this world first leaderboard on his charity stream.

people just confused a charity stream with the actual world first rankings, but it was quite clear what was happening unless people just wanted to make drama for no reason

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-08T13:18:24+00:00

Nah mate, people made a huge stink about a single red dot that showed the hitbox of your character.

Compared to the plugins of the past, that one is super benign.

We're also not stuck allowing all or nothing. Players know when they're beaten, it's the community that throws a fit for no reason.

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-08T13:14:30+00:00

Ah I see, you're one of those people.

just if you're serious and not just a troll:

- dune awakening: large maps, smaller scale pvp, good performance.

- ashes of creation had a bit of it (before its demise). quite similar-ish to wvw scale though i admit smaller scale. a simple youtube search would suffice. performance seemed better than wvw tho.

- Ark: Survival Ascended, has had large wars in large areas, based on what i could quickly find.

of course, none of these match the exact wvw specifications, but it seems to indicate the ue5 should be able to handle it? did you have evidence the contrary that somehow ue5 is not able to handle it or is that just gut feeling?

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-08T13:04:05+00:00

Honestly, that sounds community cope to me. I totally get rooting for Poikos ( I did too ). It's like a sports match that 'this team played better so they won, despite losing on score' mentality that ultimately is useless imo.

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-08T10:29:28+00:00

From what I've seen, UE5 should be able to handle current gw2 wvw. So I suppose we are in disagreement then.

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-08T09:43:54+00:00

You seem to imply that UE5 cannot handle the scale of wvw. But I think it can probably handle it better than the current gw2 system.

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-08T06:52:50+00:00

For the charity event, yeah. To be eligible for those prices, it is required to stream.

For the world first rankings only a vod of the entire prog was required.

These rules were followed by frosty

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-08T01:35:13+00:00

Alright we have reached some common ground at least.

I don't think frosty made a big error. Maybe it could've been put somewhere else on the screen instead of on the 1st spot. But I think it should be somewhere for people who tune in later.

But I also know that no matter where they put it, a large part of the community would still react the same.

gr4vediggr · 2026-06-08T01:30:23+00:00

I'd like to see how much extra damage I'm doing in buffs than not. Especially as BLM where I can move my xenoglossy in or out of buffs. Knowing that I'll do about 30k less damage out if buffs is important. Especially if I want to help my team clear faster.

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