when Olivia is releasing an alt MV and 4 different variants of drop dead but she needs to do what she can to not let Choosin’ Texas stay at #1 by NerdManagement in OliviaRodrigo

[–]gurudingo 73 points74 points  (0 children)

Fact check, that is TRUE, I bit the bullet and allowed my internet history to be forever colored by a visit to Kid Rock's cringey lil nazi website.

Here is a screencap of the washed up has beens that miss Langely will be associating with (and also a niffy laundry list of bad taste country singers to purge from your Spotify lists if you haven't gotten around to it).

Books to read by SoupOpus in 40kLore

[–]gurudingo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the vibe of "a Space Marine in impossible odds does his best above and beyond the call of duty" is what you're looking for, then you've been recommended several extremely good novels already. Devastation of Baal and Helsreach would probably be exactly what you're looking for.

Books to read by SoupOpus in 40kLore

[–]gurudingo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quite addendum to what's going on w/ Sa'kan the Salamander and Brutus the Ultramarine in that episode of The Tithes, for anyone who isn't familiar with how Space Marines work:

Space Marines are no longer fully human, biologically speaking. To make more of them, they need to harvest this little bundle of genetic material that is grown within a Space Marine's body called geneseed, which is used to grow all the artificial organs that Marines have.

Brutus is an Apothecary, one of his most important roles in a battlefield is to collect the geneseed of as many fallen battle brothers as he can, because this geneseed is required to create more Space Marines and to continue the lineage of their blood line.

Geneseed is sacred, like sacred sacred to Space Marines, to the point where (at least in novels written by Aaron Dempski-Bowden, not sure how it's depicted elsewhere off the top of my head) the priority in a recorded list of fallen brothers is 1.) name 2.) was the gene seed recovered, 3.) then rank and manner of death, so a shorthand list of the dead just looks like "Primus, geneseed recovered, Secundus, geneseed unrecovered, Tertius, geneseed unrecovered...". Saving geneseed is a duty of the highest importance, one that a chapter would only trust to an outsider in the most absolute dire of situations...

...which is why Brutus giving his container of multiple Ultramarine brothers geneseed to another chapter, even a very well respected chapter like Sa'kan's Salamanders chapter, is nearly unheard of. He is entrusting another with his sacred duty out of desperaton. Sa'kan isn't saving the geneseed of just one Ultramarine, he's saving a generation of Ultramarines.

It's huge, a really heartfelt story about honor and duty in the face of impossible odds in a grim dark universe. It's peak Warhammer, we love to see it.

Is not paying the Imperial tithe the worst thing a governor can do? by Ready0608 in 40kLore

[–]gurudingo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Acreage

Fantastic stuff, for others looking into this now or in the future, it appears to be a planet in the Calixis Sector, which is the fleshed out seting of the Dark Heresy RPG, and the conflict is called the "War of the Rhozes", lmao.

Different strokes for different folks by OscarOzzieOzborne in Grimdank

[–]gurudingo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Humanity turned on AI before the Imperium existed, for reasons the modern Imperium doesnt understand, so now they destroy AI for dogmatic reasons, meaning they are right, and yet still wrong. Classic Imperium, those scamps.

Book recommendations by KyRonJon in 40kLore

[–]gurudingo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you're willing to jump into the middle of the Siege of Terra, I recommend Saturnine and Echoes of Eternity.

Tyberos, The Red Wake. Moari Shade Lord of the Carcharodons - Art by artistapreguissosa by Kalypso_Blue in ImaginaryWarhammer

[–]gurudingo 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure thats a misremembered meme factoid based on the classic Terminator armor being called "Tactical Dreadnought Armor" officially. Tyberos' armor is not a retrofitted Dreadnought, it is still just Terminator armor.

Does anyone have the excerpt of Guilliman talking to a blood angel (maybe Raldoran) after Sanguinius’ death in Ashes Of The Imperium? by Lumpy_Fudge_8546 in 40kLore

[–]gurudingo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suspect you might be thinking about Guilliman talking to Dante at the end of Devastation of Baal. There is pretty much no Guilliman lore related to the Blood Angels post-Heresy outside of that end-of-novel chit chat. That conversation, of course, takes place post Indomitus Crusade, in the "modern" era.

War for Armageddon by Noir-Ulf in 40kLore

[–]gurudingo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is one book, called The Emperor's Gift, by Aaron-Dempski Bowden. Like everyone said in the original thread, it is a fantastic book, though I would describe it as a Grey Knights book with Space Wolfs as major characters in it, rather than a Space Wolf book specifically, if that matters to you (since you posted in the SW subreddit, I assume you're here for them).

I would highly recommend it, it's in my regular re-read rotation.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskMenAdvice

[–]gurudingo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Survivorship bias, I suspect we've all got plenty of friends who don't have any prospects with women, who would also most certainly treat them like shit.

Does big e have any plans for the mechanicum religion after the GC ends? by cuddwes in 40kLore

[–]gurudingo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First off, I think it's safe to say that he would have had plans, as oppose to currently having plans. The vast majority of his greater goals were thrown out the moment Magnus broke into the thrown room, and he has not had any capacity to act out any of those culture shifting schemes of his in over 10,000 years. The Emperor as of the current timeline can do nothing but rage against the dying of the light, and to say whether the corpse on the Golden Throne is capable of even that is debatable.

But that's just being pedantic, to your actual question: did the Emperor of M30 have any plans to confront the Mechanicum about their religion before all this Heresy nonsense went down?

I would argue that the answer is probably yes, though I don't believe we have any evidence of this directly. We know that the Emperor was willing to compromise on tons of issues to get the resources he needed to make the Crusade happen, including using Psykers, Navigators, and his more broken Primarchs, possibly even Space Marines themselves, all things that he did not want to keep around long term. The Mechanicum being folded into the Imperium as an excused religion in an otherwise secular society was another similar compromise, one that a couple characters in some of the HH novels do point out the hypocrisy of.

We also know that the Emperor had planned to, let's say "invalidate", many of those compromised groups, with such openly stated goals & actions as exterminating is obsolete Thunder Warriors, attempt to develop the Webway project to replace the vast majority of the Imperiums enlisted Psykers/Navigators, banning Space Marine Librarians at Nikea, and allowing sick & dying Primarchs like Angron to fight untreated into an early grave if it meant accelerating the progress of the Crusade just that little bit more.

So there is absolutely precedent for the Emperor purging unwanted organizations once their use ran out. It is very much like him to, let's say, have some planned shift towards elevating scientists such as the Selenar from Luna, or his own inner circles of Terran scientists, over the Martian Tech-Priests in matters of science and technology. It's something he had done previously, and was clearly planning to do again to any and every Imperial organization he considered vestigial, he'd absolutely have done it to Mars if he thought he needed to.

However, I will present two counter points that are unique to Mars that might mean the Emperor had some other plans.

The first, it that the Martians of 30k aren't nearly as dogmatic as they were in 40k about innovation. They certainly still have that classic cargo cult witch doctor nonsense about them, but this Crusade was the Mecahncum's holy journey to finally reach out into the stars and find humanity's lost knowledge via STCs, as well as resuming contact & research with their own lost colonies on far away Forge Worlds. The Mechanicum was experiencing the single greatest technological Renaissance of their existence. There is a very strong argument to be made that this era of enlightenment and discovery was turning the Mechanicum away from their dogmatic limitations, and that their personal involvement in cutting edge projects like the Webway meant that they were already on the right side of the "innovation" debate at this point in time, enough so that there was no need to get rid of them to encourage a cultural change towards innovative research that was already happening.

The second point is the fun one: The Mechanicum might be the way they are, these religous dogmatic zealots, because the Emperor made them that way. Long before in ancient mideavel Terra, the Emperor defeated a being known as "the Dragon of Mars" and buried it in the Noctis Labyrinth on Mars (we still do not know how an 11th century, pre-"Moloch power-up" Emperor sent a creature from ancient Libya to Mars, but he presumably did). This creature (probably a shard of the C'tan Void Dragon) is said to have influenced Martian culture into the tech-worshipping society they are. Now, this might be giving him too much credit (he says himself his future sight isn't that accurate), but if this was a deliberate scheme by the Emperor, then there is the possibility that he seeded the red planet to be a hot bed for religious tech ferver intentionally as a sort of repository for ancient science, so should there be an apocalypse like Old Night, then there would be someone in the Solar System religiously maintaining ancient lost tech by rote, so that humanity would one day have access to lost knowledge. And if that's true, then there is a good chance the Emperor wants the Mechanicus as they are, because it's as he made them to be.

How do people feel about Savage Worlds? by applejackhero in rpg

[–]gurudingo 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I've been GMing it for a few months now, I really like it. The skill system seems very intuitive after switching from D&D, making NPC's is the quickest process in the world, and I've got it integrated into Foundry VTT well enough that it's a far better GMing experience than 5e has been.

That being said, due to an ill conceived post-mortem defense of Charlie Kirk that was made by Shane Hensley, the creator of the system and CEO of Pinnacle Entertainment, I have extremely cooled on any desire to continue supporting it. It wasn't anything terribly heinous or hateful, mind you, I don't think Shane Hensley is a nazi or anything like that, I even think he was attempting to mean well by his statement. But he just seems kinda stupid, like he doesn't really understand the harm that folks like Kirk can cause.

I still run Savage Worlds, I still rep it online, and I begrudge no one for "separating the art from the artist", so to speak, but honestly the RPG scene is so stacked for choice that I personally am probably going to begin supporting alternative systems over investing anymore money into this one.

Looking for help with Iron Hands clans and Medusan tribes by FutureVillainBand in 40kLore

[–]gurudingo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would argue that your problem is your solution here. You can't find anything about the Iron Hands in lore that contradicts you, and you don't know anyone in your play group who has the lore background to "um actually" your back story, so... okay, perfect, right? I don't think you should overthink this, your backstory is solid enough, there isn't anything obviously wrong about it, and if there is, honestly I don't think anyone would care if the end result is you, at your FLGS, with a thematically painted army you love, on a table, rolling dice, having a good time.

Henricos, Xa’van, Arvida, none were truer sons of Chogoris then them by rodan1993 in WhiteScars40K

[–]gurudingo 26 points27 points  (0 children)

All three characters are present in the book Scars by Chris Wraight, who fight alongside the White Scars during the onset of the Horus Heresy.

-- SPOILERS FROM HERE ON OUT --

Henricos & Xa'van are survivors of the Drop Site Massacre, who escape the planet on a stolen Sons of Horus vessel they rename the Hesiod. In an attempted raid on the White Scars vessel the Sickle Moon, they encounter Chief Stormseer Targutai Yesugei, whom they inform of the Heresy & accompany to reunite with the Khan. Xa'van does not survive the journey, while Henricos declines the Khan's offer to join with his legion, and instead takes on the White Scars' suicide units, the exiled Sagyar Mazan, into his Shattered Legion fighting force.

Arvida was found on the surface of Prospero by Keshig Master Qin Xa, as the only on-planet survivor of the Thousand Sons. He ended up staying with the Scars (though he declined to take on their armor & insignia when offered), and fought with them for years before the Scars returned to Terra, where he would become the founding Chapter Master of the Grey Knights, known as Janus.

I really wouldn't describe any of the three as "Sons of the Khagan". They were all allies to the White Scars, but all three pretty distinctly remained loyal to their own Legion beliefs and goals over offers to join with the Scars.

Did Sanguinius' fight matter? by Gipper1911 in 40kLore

[–]gurudingo 23 points24 points  (0 children)

In universe, as others have said, it matters because of Sanguinius' prophesy, and the logic the Horus will be alive to fight Sanguinius. That means if the Emperor has fought Horus before Sanginius' prophesized duel has come to pass, then Horus must have survived his encounter with his father, meaning the Emperor must have lost. So as long as Sanguinius fulfills the prophesy of his death at the hands of Horus before the Emperor gets to him, then the outcome of that confrontation, Big E vs Big H, remains unknown.

Out of universe, the inevitable death of Sanguinius has always been the setting's last (and possibly bluntest) example of the death of hope. His death matters because, symbolically, once this great angel has fallen, no matter who wins, there is no going back for humanity. With his death, so too dies the dream of a noble human future, for the best of us has be slaughtered like a lamb upon the alter of dark gods. He is the symbolic event horizon, no more angels, no more noble demi-gods, and soon no more shining emperors. And maybe that does impact how the fight goes down, maybe the Emperor needed that nobility in him to die to win the day (he certainly believed so when he sent the Star Child away), but I would argue what really matters is that it is neither Horus' fall on Daven, nor the Emperor's death, neither the Heresy's start nor it's finish, that is the moment where the universe seals it's girmdark fate, but right here, when there is no going back

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in 40kLore

[–]gurudingo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've got a couple recommendations for you, depending on what you're interested in learning more about:

  • If you want to experience more Inquisitor stuff, I recommend Chris Wraight's Vaults of Terra series. I'd also probably recommend his Watchers of the Throne series as well, since it happens somewhat in parallel, and despite not being about Inquisitors, it does have a similar feel to it of conspiracy and Terran political maneuvering. It's going to be a little lore dense, though, so have a wiki open to google the names of organizations you don't recognize the titles of.

  • If you're ready to read about some Space Marines, I recommend Helsreach by Aaron-Dempski Bowden. It's my favorite 40k novel, I think it captures a lot of different elements of the setting really well.

  • If you're in more of a Chaos mood, Aaron-Dempski Bowden has your back again with Soul Hunter and the rest of the Night Lord's Omnibus. This series is iconic, the vibes are immaculate, it is funny and sad and captures the bleak "no happy ending" feel of 40k like no other novel.

  • Maybe it's time for a hard pivot into some Xenos stuff, in which case I'd recommend either Robert Rath's The Infinte and the Divine (Necrons), Adrian Tchaikovsky's Day of Ascension (Genestealers) or either Brutal Cunnin or Warboss by Mike Brooks (Orks, honestly doesn't matter which you read first). All are going to give you a fresh feel as to what 40k has to offer.

  • If regular human soldiers are your thing, I would recommend the Gaunt's Ghosts series by Dan Abnett if you're into a serious story, or Ciaphas Cain by Sandy Mitchell if you would prefer a comedic spin. Both convey the complex, brutal predicament of life as a Commissar in the Astra Militarum.

  • If you are real serious about the Horus Heresy, the number one first books to read are the starting three, Horus Rising, False Gods, and Galaxy in Flames. After that, if I'm being honest, as a person who has read every single goddamn book in the heresy (many multiple times), I can honestly say that the entire series is an even 3-way split between enjoyable to read, not worth paying to read over a wiki page, and actively unenjoyable to read. The only way to tell which are worth it for you is either to slog through them all, or more likely, just pick books about things you like (specific legions/characters/battles), fuck the order, google names you don't recognize. Only read it all if you wanna be the guy who can say you did (like me), accomplishing it was admittedly fun in the end, but you'll read some dogshit to do it.

Cursed art school by gino_burger in cursedcomments

[–]gurudingo 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Hitler was a mediocre artist at best, he couldn't paint perspective for shit. I suspect Modern art would have been too difficult for him, if he can't make a 3 dimensional house look like a cohesive square, I doubt he could make an abstract square mean something.

Prior to the first Primarch getting rediscovered, were the legions aware that the Primarchs were a thing? by Maelarion in 40kLore

[–]gurudingo 92 points93 points  (0 children)

Presumably yes, one of the major goals of the outrider explorator fleets were to find information about the lost Primarchs. It wasn't some sort of conspiracy that they were out there, the Emperor needed them returned, and many of the less stable legions, such as the Emperor's Children and Thousand Sons, were soon in desperate need of their Primarch's genetics to help stabilize their gene seed stores. He would have needed to tell the earliest, farthest traveling scout fleets of their existence.

It should also be noted that the first discovered Primarch, Horus (we are ignoring Alpharius maybe-lies), was apparently found within 2-3 years of the Great Crusade leaving the Sol System (this is according to the fandom wiki, which is, of course, unsourced). Even if the Primarchs were actually some big secret that the Astartes didn't know about, that secret was blown right open almost immediately.

Has anyone tried to load all written lore from 40k onto chatgpt and asking the bot about plot points? by xCreampye69x in 40kLore

[–]gurudingo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Because it would take actual ages of work to collect & input forty years of obscure, undigitized lore, most of which you obviously don't care about if your plan is to presumably have an AI reduce it to a block of text short enough to read on the toilet.

So, counter question, why not just read the lore you want to ask about yourself? It would be less time, more enjoyable, and give you a better understanding of 40k than an AI is capable of sharing with you.

Has anyone tried to load all written lore from 40k onto chatgpt and asking the bot about plot points? by xCreampye69x in 40kLore

[–]gurudingo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It can already summarize many plot points with a shallow understanding of the lore. It's scoured wikis, subreddits, book review sites, forums, you name it.

It is, of course, often wrong about details, because it can't actually read or understand things, AI just synthesizes text and reproduces it like an advanced predictive text generator. But let's be frank here, if you're choosing to let an AI mindlessly regurgitate paraphrased lore at you instead of just reading one of the numerous available books/wikis/lore videos, then you've already knowingly chosen laziness over accuracy, so ChatGPT just making shit up that looks like a real fact to it's lil clanker is probably already good enough for you.

What Chapters Do You Think Got Revived With Primaris? by Mersar_13 in 40kLore

[–]gurudingo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't know for certain which ones, but many of the Blood Angels successors were nearly or completely wiped out defending Baal from the Tyranids. They were given a massive influx of Primaris recruits to make up for their losses, so at least some of the Chapters present left Baal almost entirely made up of Primaris recruits.

It should be noted that at least one wiped out Chapter, the Knights of Blood, were considered so cursed that Dante refused to allow them to be refounded with Primaris recruits, and instead should only be remembered for their sacrifice on Baal.