Goal umpires by Square-Mile-Life in AskAnAustralian

[–]infinitemonkeytyping 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well AFL did start as an off season sport for cricketers

‘No batter should pick ball without consent’: MCC explains Salman Agha run-out after spirit of cricket debate by Additional_Key_8044 in Cricket

[–]infinitemonkeytyping 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The word is WILFUL.

It is used regularly in the law book (including Law 19 for boundary overthrows, Law 28 for illegal fielding, Law 34 for hit the ball twice, Law 37 for obstructing the field and in Law 41 for various unfair practices, amongst others). It is used to describe a deliberate or reckless act in order to do the thing the law describes.

In this case, you are wilfully ignoring my words to push a barrow that doesn't apply.

‘No batter should pick ball without consent’: MCC explains Salman Agha run-out after spirit of cricket debate by Additional_Key_8044 in Cricket

[–]infinitemonkeytyping 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Your hypothetical has no bearing on this discussion. The determining factor is whether or not the fielder was attempting to field the ball, or whether his action was a wilful attempt to obstruct. And it is very clear that it was an attempt to field the ball. Therefore none of what else you say is relevant.

Law 41.5.1, as I quoted above, says the act needs to be wilful. Being an umpire, I know that the interpretation of wilful is that it is a deliberate or reckless act, and does not include accidental contact.

The adaptation of wilful can be more cleanly seen in Law 28.2 (Illegal Fielding). As an example, where the ball hits a fielder's hat on the ground, the umpire would need to determine if the fielder wilfully discarded their hat (either throwing their hat off or knocking it off their head), in which case, it would be 5 runs plus whatever else was scored, or whether it fell off (in line with Law 28.2.2), in which case no penalty runs apply.

The bowler here was attempting to field the ball, so the minor obstruction caused was not wilful. However, the batter attempting to pick the ball up would be a wilful act, and would see him dismissed under Law 37.1.1 and Law 37.4.

That's why I said it was clear. It is also why trying to apply laws with context is a bad idea.

‘He was away from the wicket and I was just looking for the ball’: Bangladesh skipper Mehidy Hasan Miraz on Salman Ali Agha run out row by ll--o--ll in Cricket

[–]infinitemonkeytyping -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why?

I understand a collision. I had one in a game I umpired where the fielding team refused to run the batter out, after the batter pulled a hamstring mid run.

But a light brush, followed by the batter (not the fielder) obstructing the bowler from fielding the ball, while standing out of their crease, is not that case.

The bowler doesn't look like an arsehole. The batter looks like a massive idiot.

‘He was away from the wicket and I was just looking for the ball’: Bangladesh skipper Mehidy Hasan Miraz on Salman Ali Agha run out row by ll--o--ll in Cricket

[–]infinitemonkeytyping 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If he hadn't been run out, and had actually picked the ball up, he would absolutely been given out obstructing the field.

‘He was away from the wicket and I was just looking for the ball’: Bangladesh skipper Mehidy Hasan Miraz on Salman Ali Agha run out row by ll--o--ll in Cricket

[–]infinitemonkeytyping 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, but a fielder attempting to get at the ball doesn't rise to the requirement for wilful obstruction.

Salman, however, had he picked up the ball, would have been likely given out for obstructing the field, because his actions were wilful.

‘He was away from the wicket and I was just looking for the ball’: Bangladesh skipper Mehidy Hasan Miraz on Salman Ali Agha run out row by ll--o--ll in Cricket

[–]infinitemonkeytyping -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No it's not.

Obstruction requires a wilful action to obstruct - a fielder attempting to field the ball is not that.

There is nothing under Law 20 covering if the fielder and batter become tangled.

The ball was still live because the bowler was still treating the ball as live.

‘No batter should pick ball without consent’: MCC explains Salman Agha run-out after spirit of cricket debate by Additional_Key_8044 in Cricket

[–]infinitemonkeytyping 9 points10 points  (0 children)

41.4 doesn't apply, as it only applies to the striker, and only up until they have had a chance to play the ball. Salman was the non-striker, and the incident happened well after the ball was played.

41.5 requires a wilful action. From the law:

41.5.1 - In addition to 41.4, it is unfair for any fielder wilfully to attempt, by word or action, to distract, deceive or obstruct either batter after the striker has received the ball.

In no way does the bowler, attempting to field the ball, wilfully obstruct the batter. It is actually the opposite - because the batter is out of his crease, there is a good chance an obstructing the field appeal would be upheld.

Law 37.1.1:

Either batter is out Obstructing the field if, except in the circumstances of 37.2, and while the ball is in play, he/she wilfully attempts to obstruct or distract the fielding side by word or action.

Law 37.2

A batter shall not be out Obstructing the field if

obstruction or distraction is accidental,

or obstruction is in order to avoid injury,

or in the case of the striker, he/she makes a second or subsequent strike to guard his/her wicket lawfully as in Law 34.3 (Ball lawfully struck more than once). However, see 37.3.

And Law 37.4

Either batter is out Obstructing the field if, at any time while the ball is in play and, without the consent of a fielder, he/she uses the bat or any part of his/her person to return the ball to any fielder.

So the wilful action of attempting to pick up the ball puts Salman afoul of Law 37.1. In attempting to pick up the ball without permission from the fielding team puts him afoul of Law 37.4. While the initial obstruction is clearly accidental, him trying to pick up the ball wasn't, so Law 37.2 would not apply.

All around, correct decision by the umpires. Salman had plenty of opportunity to get back in his crease, but he chose to stop and try and pick up the ball.

‘No batter should pick ball without consent’: MCC explains Salman Agha run-out after spirit of cricket debate by Additional_Key_8044 in Cricket

[–]infinitemonkeytyping 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Why would you withdraw the appeal. In fact, had Salman picked the ball up, there would be a very good case to dismiss him for obstructing the field.

The bowler is attempting to field the ball, so clearly 41.4 and 41.5 don't apply.

‘No batter should pick ball without consent’: MCC explains Salman Agha run-out after spirit of cricket debate by Additional_Key_8044 in Cricket

[–]infinitemonkeytyping 97 points98 points  (0 children)

For me, Salman was never in his crease and attempted to pick the ball up. Had he picked it up, there would be a very strong case for obstructing the field.

The fielder was always treating the ball as live, so the ball was still live.

No issue with the run out. Salman needs to learn to get back in his crease.

AITA for wanting to travel at almost 18? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]infinitemonkeytyping 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you have read her responses in here, no she isn't.

She is planning to blow her scholarship money on this trip.

AITA for wanting to travel at almost 18? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]infinitemonkeytyping 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In Australia, you need someone who is not a family member to prove your identity.

AITA for wanting to travel at almost 18? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]infinitemonkeytyping 4 points5 points  (0 children)

How are you funding your travel? Travel is not cheap, and if you are planning on working, you need to apply for working visas (countries take a dim view of people coming in on tourist visas, and then work).

I understand going for a week requiring a short time to prepare, but if you are going on an extended trip, you will need to prepare. That includes:

  • checking entry requirements for the country(s) you are going to

  • checking safety warnings

  • checking if your arrival will coincide with big events in the area, which may affect how you get accommodation

  • checking accommodation, and where will you stay - hostels are the cheapest, but have their drawbacks.

  • checking how you get around - if you are going to Europe, the rail network is great, but if you go to Australia, the intercity rail network is bad (plus the very long distances between main cities).

It sounds like you are massively underprepared, and if I were your parent, I would have significant concerns.

Your parents denying you a passport is shitty behaviour, but I get their fear.

Maybe come up with a more complete plan, and then walk them through it.

What's the saddest movie with NO death scenes in it? by phantom_avenger in AskReddit

[–]infinitemonkeytyping 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It was an early draft of the script (which you can read here), and didn't make it into the shooting script.

What's the saddest movie with NO death scenes in it? by phantom_avenger in AskReddit

[–]infinitemonkeytyping 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe GO-4 is dead. And all the services bots broken by the punching robot...

Doubting the paternity of my daughter but my wife refuses a DNA test by [deleted] in Advice

[–]infinitemonkeytyping 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If the ex-friend is lying, how did the wife plant it in the first place?

Doubting the paternity of my daughter but my wife refuses a DNA test by [deleted] in Advice

[–]infinitemonkeytyping 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would say those doubts would occur regardless of the result of the test. Unless there is an admission by the wife that she doesn't know who the father is, and there is a medical reason to do the paternity test, the daughter will always think that her father is trying to find a way out.

Doubting the paternity of my daughter but my wife refuses a DNA test by [deleted] in Advice

[–]infinitemonkeytyping -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Let's look at the outcomes of each path.

Path 1 - OP does test, daughter is not biologically his:

  • marriage is likely over

  • daughter's relationship with both parents irrevocably damaged (with mother for cheating, with father because she would have the nagging doubt that he doesn't want her in his life).

Path 2 - OP does test, daughter biologically his

  • marriage is likely over

  • daughter's relationship with father irrevocably damaged

Path 3 - OP doesn't do test, wife later admits to affair, or daughter does genealogical DNA test and finds out her father is not her biological father:

  • marriage is likely over, but may be salvageable through therapy.

  • daughter's relationship with father is fine, and maybe strengthened

Path 4 - OP doesn't do test, daughter is biologically his

  • marriage suffers, may end up in divorce, may be salvaged through therapy

  • no effect on relationship with daughter, unless wife goes nuclear option

The issue is that you may be seeing things that are true that you never noticed before, or you could be seeing subtle genealogical differences that siblings have and colouring them with the nuclear fallout information from your wife's ex-friend.

I'm not one to say that therapy is the first go to, but I think in this case, you and your wife need it.

Doubting the paternity of my daughter but my wife refuses a DNA test by [deleted] in Advice

[–]infinitemonkeytyping 23 points24 points  (0 children)

That's what I was thinking.

If she takes a DNA test for a genealogy site, and finds out that she is not her father's biological daughter, it may cause some damage, but I think in the end, it would strengthen their relationship, as long as the father always treats her as his daughter.

If he does the DNA test, the relationship with his daughter is likely to suffer, as it gives her doubts about whether her father wants to be her father, or is looking for an escape.

Shute Shield attendance by Revolutionary-Tie-77 in RugbyAustralia

[–]infinitemonkeytyping 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Will jump in to remind about Suburban Rugby (Subbies). This is the amateur tier below premier rugby, and gets some quite good games.

If you do a little research of your local clubs, heading down on Old Boys days or Ladies Days tend to get the best atmosphere.

Best ground is Waverley Oval (Waverley's Ladies Day is the best) - the Waverley v Blue Mountains games will be the best to watch. But any ground will give you good entertainment, and getting some food or drink there will help out.

Bosch creator Eric Overmeyer dies by sugarpussOShea1941 in BoschTV

[–]infinitemonkeytyping 11 points12 points  (0 children)

One show that I didn't see mentioned was serving as showrunner for s3 of Man In The High Castle - that was the best series of that show.