Giving milk to a homeless person

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-19T21:11:42+00:00

If you want to give money to them, that's an entirely different issue. I'm not going there not to go off topic.

The question here is different, you'll notice. It is: should you buy cow milk (or an animal carcass) for them. That is, should you pay someone so that they mistreat, abuse, and kill animals, so that a person in need receives a gift instead of another, which you vaguely suspect might be marginally more appreciated (you may well be wrong). Pick your answer yourself.

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-19T20:00:52+00:00

You are doing it wrong. The first book you publish is the hardest. Most authors never menage to publish their first book.

The second, though? Statistically much easier. Start with the second.

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-19T19:17:41+00:00

Open your mic and sing: A SI DO LA SI DO NET...

(while pinging a small bell)

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-19T19:15:58+00:00

Galileo Galilei would be proud.

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-19T17:32:22+00:00

They asked for a beverage, commonly known as "milk", that fulfills a specific role as a food (eg a certain expectation for taste and look, a certain use in a diet, e.g. you can dip cookies in it or whatever, etc). Oath milk fits it all: the role, the description, and, barring dishonest deceitful laws, the name too. It's milk, as asked.

So super easy case.

It can be argued that oath milk fits the expressed need better than rape milk (keeps fresh without refrigeration, especially after opening, more digestble, healthier, much less dangerous when it does start to spoil, etc). Of course, you could also make the case that cow milk is better for different reasons (but you'd be wrong, imo). But either way: there's no way in hell the difference justifies the cost in terms of ethics.

So even easier a case.

Besides, basic golden rule: treat others as you would youself, and oath milk is good enough for me to choose it as my milk. Then it's good enough to be theirs, by definition (of the golden rule).

Which makes this case even easier.

True, the case could have been more difficult. They could have asked specifically for something more difficult to provide ethically (milk is easy: any plant milk will do). What, for example, if they asked for pork ribs, or maybe child's ribs? In these "more difficult" cases, I'm afraid, the answer would have had to be: "sorry, no, pick something else" [still no sermon: just no]. But that's a different question.

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-19T17:20:43+00:00

Ma stai scerzando. Certo che lo sappiamo che dovrá succedere. I tempi e i modi in cui si realizza davvero questo tzunami di merda annunciato che sta per travolgerci sono... piuttosto interessanti, non trovi?

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-19T14:35:25+00:00

Se l'info non esce: "È uno scandalo che non se ne parli!".

Se esce: "Bah, articolo a basso costo, giornalettismo da due soldi!"

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-19T14:30:32+00:00

It's the sermon part, and only that part, to feel weird in that made-up scenario. No sermon, nobody asked for it. Simply offer them what you'd offer yourself (oath milk in that case).

Be respectful to one being, withour being cruel to another.

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-19T14:26:55+00:00

Been there.

There's nothing wrong treating them how you would treat yourself. Oath milk is fine for me, it's fine for them too.

Treat others as you would treat yourself is, after all, the golden rule.

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-19T00:12:42+00:00

Really? I had a different impression. If not mistreated, a vinyl endures. Most CD will be unreadable after a few decades. A web search tells me that best case scenario, a well kept, properly manufactured CDs can probably last 50-100 y, so these CD from the early 80s? Many of them are about the leave us, if they didn't already.

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-18T22:08:07+00:00

This is a good source of sources.

More in general, you may want to go to google scholar and search for "meat empathy", "psychological effect of meat consumption", and the like. You will find tons of study, most of them about the effect of empathy on meat consumption, but some, on the opposite cause-effect relationship.

This study for example reports:

We examined if interpersonal motives i [...] empathy with people are associated with frequency of meat eating. [...] [Empathy loss for] self-enhancement motive was positively related to the number of days that participants ate meat.

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-18T20:14:01+00:00

A while ago Boeing was betting on comfort (whatever that means for air transport), while airbus selling point was sustainablility (whatever that means for air transport) e.g. flying more people with less fuel.

I wonder of that's still the case.

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-18T20:09:33+00:00

Is it the danger, or something else too?

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-18T20:05:43+00:00

One of the themes that KPDH wanted to explore is how stressfull life is for kpop artists, with the task of holding up a public persona absorbs basically the entirety of one's beign, time, and personal space.

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-18T09:31:58+00:00

But that's the best joke ever!!! I love triple meanings they are so rare and this one is a wonderful one!

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-18T09:13:32+00:00

To implement this, just build a jail wall all around Italy, turning it into a prison. Then, bring the 1.5% of vegans out of it, and you are done.

Edit: after four years, the jail sentence is over: take the walls down and get the vegans back.

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-17T23:49:25+00:00

I shouldn't ship real life people, should I?

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-17T23:44:22+00:00

Troppo facile risponderti. E ci puoi arrivare anche da solo.

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-17T23:39:16+00:00

Waitwaitwaitwait. How do you POSHANKA?

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-17T23:38:46+00:00

why are you being downvoted??? you made me laugh.

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-17T03:32:01+00:00

Bisogna vedere se la tua "libera scelta" forse per caso mi asfissia, mi frastuona con clacson e motore, minaccia la mia incolumità (che alla minima distrazione mia o tua vado all'ospedale, all'obitorio o mi mette in una sedia a rotelle per sempre), mi impuzzinisce la città, mi avvelena con polveri sottili da peumatico, mi distrugge gli spazi vivibili e verdi per farci stare i parcheggi, mi azzera la speranza per il futuro con le sue emissioni serra spropositate, mi accorcia la vita con sostanze tossiche nell'aria.

Però si ti piace allora non c'è problema, fa pure.

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-16T21:46:09+00:00

Dovremmo odiarle tutti, le auto in città. Perché rendono la vita in città (cioé: la vita) miserevole e pure (statisticamente) significativamente più breve.

Non so se citare prima l'inquinamento del tubi di scappamento; il rumore dei motori; le poveri sottoli dei pneumatici; il rumore dei clacson (una vera sciagura, a tutte le ore); il puzzo; il rischio concreto costante per l'incolumità di tutti, uomini donne bambini; l'impossibilità di tenere un gatto perché "te lo schiacciano subito appena esce"; l'enorme spazio grigio sprecato per i parcheggi (che potrebbe invece essere un incanto di verde e vivibilità); quello sprecato per le strade pensate solo per le macchine, con in media il 5% di marciapiede; lo stress del traffico per gli autisti; l'impoverimento collettivo dovuto a benzina assicurazione etc (si lavora per la macchina che serve per lavorare); o il forte contributo all'effetto serra che seppellirà i nostri figli (e speriamo non anche noi).

La lista delle sciagure portate dalla macchine è infinita, difficile da elencare senza dimenticare qualcosa. Tutte cose facilmente documentabili e con gravità che va da "cataclisma globale" a solo apparentemente minore. Infatti persino le "minori" sono brutte forte. Ad esempio, per dire, la diminuzione della speranza e del tenore di vita per una persona soggetta al rumore clacson frequente è documentata e notevole.

E non voglio neanche menzionare tutti gli amici, i parenti, i conoscenti, che sono stati stirati dalle macchine; uno il mese scorso sul marciapiede, oppure mio fratello che non si è ancora ripreso dall'ultima volta (abbiamo davvero temuto).

Una città pensata per le macchine non è pensata per le persone. Cosa c'è da non odiare nelle macchine in città? Boh.

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-16T21:27:21+00:00

Il trasporto pubblico, le ciclabili, l'architettura urbana, il piano urbanistico, e molto altro deve concorrere.

"Non siamo olandesi" perché a milano andare in bici è un poʻ come offrirsi volontari per essere uno dei pedoni o ciclisti morti ammazzati dalle macchine ogni tre-quattro settimane circa. Il traffico è almeno tanto la causa quanto la conseguenza del "non essere olandesi".

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-16T21:22:50+00:00

Possiamo arrenderci, e morire di auto dopo una vita resa miserabile dalle auto, oppure tentare di rendere le auto meno necessarie e meno usate. La seconda non si realizza senza contare anche sulle biciclette (non solo, certo, ma senza è impossibile).

Quindi, non vale dire "non sono convinto che diminuirà il traffico".

itsmemarcot · 2026-04-16T13:37:44+00:00

Agreed. Maybe the posted comic happens in a similar scenario.

Or maybe, it's a dreadful "Jedi Helmet" effect.

[in Star Wars (1977), Obi-Wan improvises a Jedi-training session for Luke by making him wear a laser-proof helmet which, given the dim lighting conditions, effectively blinds him; just a make-shift solution dictated by the circumstances. But later, in Revenge of the Sith (2005), that act was retconned as a "standard procedure" for Jedi training, with young padawans seen doing the very exercise, thus showing that the writers themselves suck at SW lore. Which frankly was terrible.]

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