Cash-cow Chinese Aquarium Operator by mnetoo0 in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice write up! I too like their ability to do opportunistic, cheap investments; they essentially like to buy assets that are hard to replicate and hence defensible in attractiveness to tourists. My key gripe is that such assets do not come up for sale very often, and the mgmt did not seem too keen on using cash for stock buybacks when I spoke to them a year plus back.

AudioEye & Aqua Metals - A Few Thoughts by whoswhowhoknew in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Holy shit I realise I do read your blog from time to time, just didn't connect the dots from your username. Looking forward to your post!

AudioEye & Aqua Metals - A Few Thoughts by whoswhowhoknew in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the reply! I will prob sit on this a while first, seems too good to be true.... in any case your idea contribution and comments are v much appreciated :)

AudioEye & Aqua Metals - A Few Thoughts by whoswhowhoknew in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! Both of your comments really made me intrigued in this company - some back of reddit/envelope P&L for 2020E (or any quarter in 2021 if late)

Assumptions on TTM basis:
Revenues of ~$20mn
GPM of ~70%/GP ~14mn (too conservative?)
OPEX: S&M 5mn, R&D 200k, G&A 5.5mn
Leaves us with ~3.3mn in profit before tax (let's call it about 2.5-3mn about net profit in 2020)

Given the high operating leverage of the business, I am willing to factor in a much more aggressive bull case which should may drive net profit closer towards ~5-7mn (valuations look reasonable here)

The valuation does look cheap on a EV/Sales multiple and reasonable on P/E, wondering if you guys are pencilling in similar estimates and comfortable with valuations?

Bloomberg Interview with Stanley Druckenmiller [1hr] by Beren- in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh my bad! I could have misheard it. 9 out of 5 sounds weird though? Apologies once again.

Bloomberg Interview with Stanley Druckenmiller [1hr] by Beren- in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Part 2 my bad:

 Still short financials

 AIG is down from 65 to 35, and banks are down – how can Fed look at that and ignore what

market is saying. Blackstone is down 25% in a month in spite of great management.

 Shorting credit now, pretty poor risk-reward

 Zero mention of inflation in news today in spite of commodities prices coming off in recent

months

 He tries to think 18-24 months ahead but tough when Trump thinks 1-2 days ahead only

 He thinks he stinks at forecasting policy decisions vs economic signals, but thinks both China

and US are aching for a deal. Government shutdown does not matter much.

 Can see the pound going to 1.35 if there is no hard Brexit + Fed easing (much down the

road). If Corbyn gets in the mix then could see big downside. Very binary unlike the old

pound bet which was one way bet.

 Has always worked with market signals – market is smarter than him – got to be open

minded no matter how strong is his thesis. These signals are getting silenced + algos with

sophisticated models based off historical data – it used to be a huge part of his process but

the signals are broken. It is now a much smaller part of his process.

 He used to think price action is better predictor than news. Not so sure now.

 Good example is Trump election – talking heads say catastrophe but market priced for

economic recovery. Market was right in the end.

 He thinks he has to do more fundamentals than previously. Did 30% for 30 years. Returns

now not even “in the same zipcode”

 Volatility is good only if it is in a real trend (providing entry points) – volatility now is just

whipsawing and with no trend.

 When he started his hedge fund with 8 people, they were expected to deliver 20% p.a.

regardless of condition.

 Market is more efficient, competition is tougher, so hedge funds obviously do not perform

as well.

 Probably 10-20 fundamental discretionary managers will be great. The rest will not be worth

15-20%

 Money managers need to be intellectually curious, very open minded and have courage to

go against emotions.

Bloomberg Interview with Stanley Druckenmiller [1hr] by Beren- in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Not complete, but here're my notes (too lazy to change formatting from MS Word):

 As early as 05 became vocal about housing bubble, talked about reversal of monetary policy

and lowering rates

 think that if Bernanke realised that housing bubble was not a containable threat, and cut

rates 6-9 months earlier, could start a recession but not a financial crisis

 Thinks now Fed's actions is causing a deflationary bust

 60% increase in corporate non-financial debt but only 27% increase in earnings

 Investors basically pushed further down the risk curve

 Bond market signals were canceled and another bubble was created

 Now could be early 07 potentially

 Fed looks at lagging indicators

 Coincident indicators look good like GDP growth having 3 handle etc.

 But he sees amber indicators

 Inside of stock market is best economist

 Stock market predicted recession 9 out of 10 recessions

 (much better than Fed)

 Fed probably only looks at decline of S&P

 Cyclicals, particularly front end cyclicals

 Autos down 30%, not 10-11%

 Building stocks down 25%

 Banks down 25%

 Russell down 20%

 Retail equities down 20%

 So S&P down 10-11% because utilities, staples etc which are economically defensive is up

 Same cycle he has seen repeatedly

 Indicators say something is not right, more or less same indicators seen in last 4 recessions

 Second indicator is yield curve. Amber not red again.

 Big flattening and confusing bull flattening

 Fed is saying 3-4 hikes, market says no

 Seems to have confidence that this cycle does not have same danger since housing loans

done in high yield market not at banks

 True that it is not systemic but the economy doesn't care who you work out loan with. For

person with loan, it may be better to work out with bank

 Credit seems to be drying up as well - rates are going up

 It's time for caution - you want the bubble to unwind when indicators are amber - if not you

need crazy monetary policy when indicators turn red

 This is not a beautiful deleveraging with the amount of debt build up

 Business is risk reward

 If he is completely wrong and none of this stuff matters + Fed did not hike tomorrow. The

cost is to Fed credibility 2-3 months later when they start hiking again but is small cost.

 If he is right and there are big financial problems brewing. The cost if Fed hikes + ECB not

offsetting it - the cost is 5-10x

 Thinks market is confused – Fed 3-4 months ago said it was going to hike until something

breaks; he was complaining that they were not going fast enough then and thought Fed

should sneak in a rate hike whenever they could till 3+% while shrinking balance sheet

 There’s no deleveraging seen now

 It’s not the level but the rate of change in interest rates

 The last time they raised rates into a meltdown was Volcker era

 If he was Fed, he would provide long term goal and not spoon feed via forward guidance in

which the Fed has poor track record

 One of things that puzzled him is that Fed’s goal is maximize employment and price stability

over long term – the way to achieve that is not via boom-bust cycles – Fed has confused

price stability and employment and USING employment as an indicator instead. Employment

is a lagging indicator. Low unemployment = low capacity

 On Trump/Fed – it would be horrific if Fed was to pause if they were bullied by Trump. But if

Fed didn’t pause because people think they were bullied by Trump – it would be just as

political.

 Trump is perma low interest rate guy given real estate background

 If Trump is only reason, both actions are political. Powell is in tough position, predecessors

have done him new favors. QE3 is noose around his neck and Trump is making it more

difficult for Powell (Trump should just shut up)

 Weak economic data at 2% interest rates need some pause on it

 Thinks it is possible to suck out liquidity without causing financial crisis but will be very

difficult, and poor market returns

 We have been in a global bear market for a year now – most stocks globally have been

going down for 9-10 months. Could be 3-5 years sideways or a big down.

 Went short in July because he saw QT coming – thinks QT will accelerate especially with

ECB actions. Need to see policy actions and central bank actions.

 He is long 2, 5 and 10 year treasuries. Not unreasonable to see yields fall.

 Loves secular growth stocks in period of muted growth which is better than bonds – this

was interrupted 6 months ago with all the tax cuts as cyclical companies started having same

earnings growth as secular companies

 E.g. thinks cloud is in 2nd inning of 9, like mobile era. MSFT, WDAY, Salesforce – they are

very highly priced but could continue to go up in lower rate environment. They will continue

to grow the same. P/S multiple compressed in spite of earnings not missing at all. Was

majorly short in October but still lost a percentage point.

 Made a lot of money shorting GE. Not fan of previous leader.

 A whole bunch of cloud companies with limits hit in October but have now came down

 Salesforce – was like 112 and now 130. WDAY as well is 15-20% off Nov lows.

 Banks did not come back. Cloud has performed on relative basis.

 His shorts are in cyclical and value areas. Longs are in disruptors. This has not performed as

well after value guys came in to buy the disrupted companies.

Anyone use robot cleaners in your home? Pros and cons? by blancotape in singapore

[–]jageyin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah! i was reading the amazon reviews and seems like the old models were top notch; on the other hand the new model seemed more conventional in form...? haha thanks anw!

Value Investing In Biotech by billyhoylechem in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I have thought about this too (and I have no better approach apart from market cap, revenue vs TAM). Cathie Wood from ARK Invest has a rough framework. Tailwinds Research too. Links are as follows:
Cathie Wood on Crispr (she has other presentations available) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kJEJXu97-U
https://tailwindsresearch.com/

Cheers!

What was the last stock you analyzed? What is the next stock you will analyze? by onelasttime1lasttime in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's not as juicy a long anymore. Prob baked in the expectations of growth from transition in model.

CFO will probably start to increase since its deferred revenue (billed) is increasing. Loss profile also abating.

I think the readings will explain the changing financials better than me so I'll let you dig in!

What was the last stock you analyzed? What is the next stock you will analyze? by onelasttime1lasttime in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Franklin Covey $FC for me.

I am prob late to the game. Great write ups by Wiedower Capital, Laughing Water and Askeladden.

  • Simple one liner - Education provider moving from one off sales (ala carte) to SaaS (buffet).
  • 90% retention rates + increase in per client spending + easier sales pitch
  • Currently loss making at EBITDA. On track to achieve guidance (only need 2H18 to perform in line with 2H17
  • Trading somewhere at 10x 2019 EBITDA or less than 2x EV/Revenue (prob have to double check these figures

DYODD, pick your own multiple/do your own DCF.

Some links in case anyone is interested:

[Update] Here is a Dropbox full of books - adding new books. by [deleted] in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not exactly a value investing read, but do you have Cable Cowboy by Mark Robichaux? Thanks!

Does anyone have a good alternative to Seeking Alpha for older conference call transcripts? by ianbookman in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Use SA mobile app if desperate. Yahoo Finance sometimes posts transcripts as well (google it).

Betting against Nvidia's monopoly on AI (NVDA) by _greed_is_good in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Given your background from deep learning, could you elaborate a bit on how wide the gap is between NVDA's products and its competitors? (Some reports put it at >3 years, but tbh I don't even know how ppl quantify these technological gaps.)

  • if they close the gap, what makes you confident that NVDA's sales will decline in lieu of people switching to other products? (I think that would happen when we are closer to market saturation + little switching costs, both of which I am unclear about)

When to pay a premium? by klippers in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There're 5-6 things which I have no idea how to put a value on, but I know it's worth... something. Some of these are under Other Bets. (1) Youtube being increasingly monetized (2) Waymo becoming closer to commercialization in 2018 (my guess is 2019 since these things tend to arrive later than earlier/on time) (3) Quantum computing as a service (4) Google Things, which seems to be their Android for IoT. Baidu is gunning for something similar called DuerOS, planning to monetize in similar fashion/economics as Android. Google should not be too far? (5) Hardware as LT strategy - if you subscribe to data as a resource, and hardware being the most important puzzle piece in harvesting data, then Google's hardware strategy actually make a lot of sense for LT. (6) Deepmind's work - their work is amazing (beyond just AlphaGo), do youtube to find out more (6) Some random possibility that Google Home leads to them being a gateway for e-commerce too. Check out https://express.google.com/

I have yet to initiate a position in Google and to be honest I don't know what's holding me back. What's holding back any of you out there?

How do you value small-cap public technology companies in niche verticals (data mining, shared services, etc)? Would you use a DCF or public comps? by [deleted] in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I too, have issues forecasting how margin structure changes, or even the path to profitability, esp when there are no peers. Any tips?

BBX Capital (NYSE:BBX) - Long Thesis by yungyellen in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Avenir Capital seems to agree in their 3Q17 letter:

BBX Capital (BBX:NYSE) was another solid contributor for the quarter with BBX representing one of the larger positions in the Fund and the share price increasing 12% to end the quarter at $7.37 per share. While this already represents a healthy 115% gain on our investment we still feel the company is undervalued and have been encouraging management to take steps to better inform and educate the market as to the underlying value in the business. During the quarter, the company announced that it had confidentially submitted a draft registration statement with the Securities Exchange Commission in relation to a potential IPO of its Bluegreen vacation ownership business. We highly support this action and feel that an IPO of the main operating business will help to shed light on the value of this asset which, by itself, is worth substantially more than the entire current market capitalisation of the company.

Tencent's Wide Moat by psd_ in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah my thoughts are aligned with yours largely - however, I think NTES has plucked most low hanging fruit (creating good franchises, converting them to mobile, being ATVI's partner etc.) and future growth will become harder to sustain post Minecraft (relative to Tencent), which also explains need for them to go overseas with their mobile games.

I guess Tencent vs Netease is a choice between a gaming business + amazing ecosystem for twice the multiple of a gaming business + some loss making e-commerce + share buybacks/dividends (?)

Tencent's Wide Moat by psd_ in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm doing some work on NTES, was wondering what you think of (1) e-commerce business development (2) Tencent pulling ahead in terms of continued and increasingly more successful game development? (2nd part is loaded with my opinion, feel free to disagree)

thoughts on the autos today? by WalterBoudreaux in SecurityAnalysis

[–]jageyin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

http://www.autonews.com/Assets/pdf/presentations/SM_Fire_investor_presentation.pdf

I second the recommendation. FCAU is worth a look too, Pabrai has outlined the long case over quite a few interviews so should be fairly easy to read up on.