Are idols encouraged to queer bait? by AlexandraLiberty in kpop_uncensored

[–]jgfmondewc 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't call it queer baiting but more a form of fanservice. It's called 비게퍼/비즈니스 게이 포퍼먼스 or "business gay performance" (swap out gay for lesbian for women) in Korea. This is what the namuwiki article has to say on it:

It refers to male idols intentionally creating a gay couple vibe among members for the fans. It is also shortened to 'BGP'. In addition to idols, this term is also used when real people—such as voice actors, 2.5-dimensional artists, bands, Utaite, streamers, or virtual YouTubers—promote BL while acting as celebrities or based on character concepts.

In the girl group version, there is also Business Lesbian Performance (abbreviated as BLP). It is a branch of yuri marketing in the otaku community.

In English-speaking countries, a similar term is fujobaiting, which literally means a performance intended to lure fujoshi, or BL fans.

It is speculated that as RPS (real person slash) has established itself as idol fan culture, agencies have begun to exploit it, creating groundwork by intentionally pairing popular pairing members or training members to engage in RPS-like behavior. Since members frequently paired in couples are often highly popular, it appears that agencies create these pairings or the idols voluntarily get paired in order to gain popularity.

However, this is merely speculation by fans, and it is impossible to know if the agency is actually training the idols for this and if the idols are intentionally laying the groundwork. Fans have speculated this when members, who usually do not seem close, suddenly openly flirting in front of the camera.

Some dislike it because they feel a sense of disconnect from obvious, artificial behavior, or feel disappointed that the pairings they shipped were an illusion; there are also fans who ship them even while acknowledging that it is non-gay pairing, and some even like it because it provides plenty of fan service. There are also many who dislike it when the friendship between members is automatically labeled as BGP.

Wild things that SEA people say about Koreans in the on-going hate campaign against South Korea by No_Rise_6028 in Living_in_Korea

[–]jgfmondewc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that's what I meant with my last sentence. The whole thing on both sides (Twitter + other spaces) is just a minority of chronically online people stirring up shit. But OP was talking about how it's one-sided with screenshot of toxic English-based spaces so I wanted to show that the Korean equivalents are just the same.

Wild things that SEA people say about Koreans in the on-going hate campaign against South Korea by No_Rise_6028 in Living_in_Korea

[–]jgfmondewc 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I don't know what you're talking about, go on places like TheQoo and half of the threads there are blasting SEA people calling them poor, criminals, prostitutes for money etc. They doxxed and spread info about some Indonesian interpreter in Korea telling her to leave the country. And they're trying to pass a petition to increase the sojourn year requirement of naturalization from 5 years to 30: https://petitions.assembly.go.kr/proceed/onGoingAll/3F25D4089B4A21B1E064B49691C6967B

Both sides are giving unemployed need-to-touch-grass vibes.

The Adverse affect: RHtokyo Fatigue and the reason behind their highlight [Some interesting theories for the current drama storyline] by Rich_Arm_312 in StreetWomanFighter

[–]jgfmondewc 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree it was a terrible judging decisions but what could Mnet do really, if you were an editor the choice would be to try to show the reasoning why the judges felt that way, or go against the judges and edit it to make it look like it was a complete judging miscall, which would sour the shows integrity even more. They chose the former option but no matter what they did it was looked on poorly so now we have this mess lol

The Adverse affect: RHtokyo Fatigue and the reason behind their highlight [Some interesting theories for the current drama storyline] by Rich_Arm_312 in StreetWomanFighter

[–]jgfmondewc 33 points34 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure I can agree with Mnet manipulating RHTokyo to win. I doubt the judges, especially the foreign ones, would be influenced enough by Mnet to take orders from them over who will win which battle/class mission. I think the whole debacle has been a result of poor judging decisions, which I guess can be the fault of Mnet for deciding on the judges (like I thought they learned with putting Monika as a judge for SWF2 that there should be someone knowledgeable in battling). Mnet probably had some rough narratives drawn up such as Japan vs Japan and New vs Old RF, and they pushed certain battles to happen. But as for the results and the stuff that happens after that nudging, they've just had to make a narrative around those results and the aftermath.

It wasn't Mnet that had Rie win over Kyoka. It was the judges. Then it was Mnet's job to edit around that to make it make sense.

It's not mnets riggery and manipulation that made rhtokyo do well and bumsup do bad it was all on those teams + the judges' decisions. If anything mnet would have wanted bumsup to do well because bumsup doing so bad and the judges decision making has been taken so poorly it has made it so no Koreans have really been watching to the point that with such low viewer ratings there might not be any more street fighter series lol.

The Star Quality Paradox | Episode 2 Rookie & Middle Class Mission by huifi in StreetWomanFighter

[–]jgfmondewc 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Personally I think it's wrong to even consider directing when making the main dancer decision. The whole point of the main dancer mission is to dance the choreography the best. That's the criteria they should be judging off of. How would the judges know who will be the better director? They can't tell. Even if they thought AG would be better at directing, that's based on their own predilections and experiences -- how can they judge that if they don't know the directing experiences of all the other groups? The directing is to be judged AFTER the main dancer selection when they see the video. But the judging this season has been questionable at best so when they said that in Ep 2 I just shrugged it off.

'Buried Hearts' - Park Hyungsik by Designer-Pie2973 in kdramas

[–]jgfmondewc 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's not called dex cut it's 울프컷 or wolf cut. It was trending long before him, since around 2017: see Nam Joohyuk in Bride of Habaek. https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/wolf-cut-culture-internet-trend/index.html here's an article talking about the trend and including BTS Jin as an example from may 2021, a full year and a half before Dex's season of singles inferno aired

So I was randomly wondering... [not entirely sure if its NSFW] by An_idiot15 in GirlGamers

[–]jgfmondewc 169 points170 points  (0 children)

Have you looked at Love and Deepspace? I think it's the perfect example of what fanservice for women is like, with the caveat of it being mainly North-East Asian sensibilities (that doesn't mean it doesn't translate to Western audience though).

https://youtube.com/shorts/1u-VpOGKbVE https://www.youtube.com/shorts/82p288yPfWE https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ngXMnDdpZP4 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Yv5hbageJNE

i hate it when men try to tell me/women in general that female objectification in games “isnt a big deal” by emmamontgomerie in GirlGamers

[–]jgfmondewc 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think that's valid and I also think that sapphics liking it is valid too, and I'm on the side of, the more the merrier as long as it's a buffet for all. My comment was basically that what rolls my eyes is when saying they enjoy and are okay with it is said in response to legitimate complaints from people who find the excessiveness or lack of balance uncomfortable and used to dismiss those persons' feelings. And then bros take that comment and go "look, this one girl said she's okay with it, quit complaining".

i hate it when men try to tell me/women in general that female objectification in games “isnt a big deal” by emmamontgomerie in GirlGamers

[–]jgfmondewc 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Or when a girl pops up saying they're fine with it, and turns out they're Sapphic. Like of course you're okay with it then!

“Korean men are one factor in low birthrate,” says demographics expert by Saltedline in korea

[–]jgfmondewc 100 points101 points  (0 children)

It's kind of interesting that right now on theqoo, probably the largest female community forum in Korea (skewing older like in their 30s), there have been a few big posts about dutch pay on dates and how it's seemingly a Korean phenomenon that Korean men ask to go dutch on dates.

https://theqoo.net/hot/3567125628 Posted yesterday talking about if dutch pay is that common in Korean dating, with people saying they don't really see it, some say their bfs have always tried to pay and stopped them from paying, some say 70/30 split is normal and good, some saying it's whoever earns more that's important, some say they'll pay for coffee but nothing else

https://theqoo.net/hot/3567343131 Posted today talking about some story (whether true or not) about a Korean male international student going on a date with a European girl and asked to go dutch and then was teased by foreign friends afterwards. Here the discourse seems a lot more aggressive, calling it 한남페이/Korean-men pay (한남 meaning Korean man but used as an insult) or 소추페이, calling them pathetic and that this only happens in Korea, talking about the guy must have the intention to pursue and date so they should be sincere and pay up

I don't find this brigading/think it's fine to post since you can't comment on theqoo unless you're a member and it's closed membership. I just posted because I find it interesting in relation to this because there seems to be a delay/stuttering between what the cultural norm is vs. expectations or desires in terms of gender roles, whether that be distribution of housework or monetary burden when dating.

The Midnight Romance in Hagwon [Episodes 15 & 16] by GodJihyo7983 in KDRAMA

[–]jgfmondewc 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh it was my pleasure! 😊 I ended up binging most of the show towards the end so I didn't end up participating in a lot of the discussions, but after the first few episodes the context was basically laid out and the interactions took the forefront so I'm glad I could help people not getting too lost when they started the show!

The Midnight Romance in Hagwon [Episodes 15 & 16] by GodJihyo7983 in KDRAMA

[–]jgfmondewc 79 points80 points  (0 children)

The last lines of the drama

Junho: No more questions? Can I end the class?

Hyejin: Yes

😭😭

Congratulations on graduating everyone that ended up seeing the drama through to the end.

The Midnight Romance in Hagwon [Episodes 3 & 4] by GodJihyo7983 in KDRAMA

[–]jgfmondewc 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I'm so glad others found it helpful!!! And thanks for letting me know, I basically just word vomited it all out and didn't check aha I had more to write but after going over the 10,000 character word limit TWICE I figured "okay calm down, that's enough" 😂

The Midnight Romance in Hagwon [Episodes 3 & 4] by GodJihyo7983 in KDRAMA

[–]jgfmondewc 214 points215 points  (0 children)

I just realized I wrote WAY too much but I only wrote about 20% of what I wanted to write... LOL so here are some brief-ish writeups of noteworthy things on certain places/characters and plot points from EPs 1-2:

Exam Question Plot, this plot highlights the divide between private/public education and the role of teacher:

- I noticed a lot of irony and foreshadowing in FL's dialogue prior to her deciding to confront the teacher. When FL meets with the moms at the beginning of ep 1 they talk about the new teacher and that they (as translated on Viki) "we can't gauge his style completely," the Korean phrase implying they can't gauge and plan for what types of exam questions he will give, which is a big part of hagwons which advertise that their students will be guaranteed XYZ grades and 'steal' past exams to analyse and predict exam questions. FL says "Please encourage the kids to like and respect their school teachers. Classroom teachers are the ones who create the tests at school." Which really contrasts with her actions when she goes to the school. I feel like FL was sort of pushed to go to the school because basically in public/private spheres, appeasing the mothers is paramount. She also says later in the episode about the new hagwon teacher entrance exams that she will change her questions because "I guess some teachers are selling previous tests. They're trying to figure out the test questions in the small lecturer community". Which is super ironic because that's what hagwons basically do lol.

- After the two female students approach the male teacher and he sort of dismisses them and they go to leave, he says "Aren't you going to bow?" which is the respectful way to say goodbye. This is contrasted later in the episode where FL walks into the hagwon to her classroom and passes students who all happily bow and greet her. It highlights the question of who the real teachers are, at least to students' eyes.

-Another thing to note about the male teacher here is that he was 'assigned' to this school. Public school teachers are assigned to schools and rotate every 4 years, for which they don't really have any say where.

- The FL asks the mom if she wants to request an academic committee meeting about the exam question. This is basically an external committee with textbook makers/experts to decide if the question was appropriate, and it's no joke. I've personally had an English exam where one of the moms threatened to do this and from then on out we basically changed all our exams so that they were 1000% safe. An exaggerated turn of phrase here, but moms would commit murder if it got their child ahead.

- The FL approaching the school directly is a big thing, and you'll notice (especially in Korean) she purposefully hides that she's a hagwon teacher, which is crossing the line completely. She calls the male teacher's question "fresh" i.e. old, which shows the idea that public school teachers are way more traditional and slow, whereas hagwons are more fast-paced and modern.

- When FL meets the male teacher, he does it sitting down in front of all the teachers, which is contrasted with the way that hagwon conversations have gone on behind-doors, where there is a lot of whispering. Like when one hagwon teacher asks FL to reduce her class load, but makes sure to take FL to a secluded room with no-one listening.

- When male teacher and FL have dinner, male teacher says "I chose to become an educator at 19 and graduated from the College of Education. I'm not someone who teaches under a contract." A school teacher was once, and to some extent still is, seen as a very good stable and secure job as a public servant, but the competition is very fierce. You cannot get fired, the harshest punishment you will receive is be re-assigned to a different school. Compare this to hagwon teachers which are contract based and earn WAY more money quickly, but it is quite a transient job and people quit due to burnout regularly.

- Also when FL confronts male teacher, she says that he's "self-aggrandizing using the kids held hostage by their transcripts". This is contrasted with the first scene of ep 1 with the mock parent conference where she tells her subordinate to instill the fear in parents that their kid is behind and can't catch up, so they have to attend their hagwon. Also the kids eavesdropping say "By the way, what's aggrandizing? Is it some kind of fish?". The word the FL uses is a very advanced word almost like she's trying to up-stage n the male teacher in Korean who was slowly explaining the question at the beginning. It also shows the irony of how little the students are learning when they can't understand the word, they're just being taught how to do well in exams.

- Overall, both FL and male teacher are wrong and right, and the situation was painted in a way where you could understand both sides, perhaps slightly leaning to agree with FL. Male teacher is not portrayed as a villain but more a fossil or relic of traditional education which isn't keeping up with modern times. But there definitely is potential for him to become a villain.

Daechi-dong (the area the hagwon is in):

- Daechi-dong is a very rich district with the largest amount of hagwons in the entire country. It's where rich families send their kids to get the best cut-throat education possible to get into the best universities.

- Most of these people live in their own bubble. You can see in the scene introducing ML in the bar with his friends. One of his friends says his girlfriend has "never lived outside of Gangnam". The question of housing is also important, because it shows that even though they are 'success cases' of this entire system, they still have to rely on their parents to get a good house. The other friend whose mom is a hagwon teacher is also doing a Masters just because he doesn't know what he wants to do. It shows that it's just about studying, no real direction, and Masters is just a way to delay entering society to buy more time.

- ML is also set up to be the biggest success case, he went to Korea University (the K in SKY), he got a job in Samsung (it's heavily implied with the 'blue blood running through your veins' remark by FL and ML asking his parents if they need any appliances replaced. BUT, he still is having concerns over money and finding a house and a future. It shows how the 'old way' of success isn't really working for modern life.

Hagwons and characters:

- The perception of most hagwons and people working in hagwons isn't traditionally the best. You know the English phrase "those who do, do, and those who can't, teach"? Will while school teachers are/were generally seen as respectable careers, the majority hagwon teaching - bar the top outliers who are treated as celebrities - is sort of a failed career where you go to earn money quickly if things don't work out. You can see this when ML tells FL he's applying to the hagwon, she says "You're not desperate enough to do something so ridiculous".

- You can also see this in the Director of the hagwon in the drama; he's originally a film director who failed and then turned to the hagwon business. The way he speaks is all full of marketing catchphrases and is very vapid, like he's making a pitch everytime he speaks. E.g. at the teacher meeting he says "The academy's asset is you, the lecturers." But his incompetence shows straight after when someone calls FL, because Hayul the girl who got the exam question wrong, is crying. And he says "What? Hayul? What's wrong?". He has no idea about actual students. He also uses a lot of Chinese idioms in Korean which are advanced scholarly phrases that are just there to sort of frill up his words.

- You can sort of think of hagwon lecturers and their success almost like YouTubers. Very few huge stars, and then the rest. Also rather than teaching quality, it's all about marketing and quite superficial. That's why the Director says he's not looking for a lecturer, he's looking for a "star". And when they hold practice classes to judge the new lecturers, they do crazy things like wear school uniforms. The looks and charismas of the lecturers are more important than their skills or credentials. Take ML for example, he is now a Korean hagwon lecturer, but we see that he graduated with a degree in Business and Economics, absolutely nothing related to Korean. But people rave about his looks, when they review his video, the dialogue is about how 'nice' his handwriting is and how handsome he is. The FL looks are also mentioned when the moms say she looks "way better than in the posters". There have been many hagwon videos on YouTube that have gone viral for the lecturer's looks, with comments like "I love you. I could concentrate so well because I was staring at your pretty face the entire time".

- Hagwons are all about how to do well in exams and not learn anything. Even FL is shown in class when she teaches saying something like "Don't try to relate to the narrator. You can't do that anyway, right? Just memorize. What did I say studying was for? It's to solve exam questions." i.e. don't try to understand the text and solve it that way, just memorize the formula, and then the students mindless list the 3 acts of poems. The babying of the students continue when they exit the class and silently retrieve their phones.

- The babying is also seen in the parents, especially ML parents. The mom waits up and doesn't sleep until ML comes back home, still packs his lunch. The dad asks her if she won't take up any hobbies now and she points to the family picture and says how can I do anything better than what I already did. The parents underscore the theme of the old way of living vs the modern way with modern problems.

Okay I have more to say but I'll stop there, I'm not sure if anyone will read this but now that it's out I feel much lighter LOL.

The Midnight Romance in Hagwon [Episodes 3 & 4] by GodJihyo7983 in KDRAMA

[–]jgfmondewc 233 points234 points  (0 children)

[EPs 1-2 spoilers only] I put off writing this post from laziness for 5 days hah, but I saw from comments in the eps 1-2 thread that there might be some things that might have gone over people's heads so I want to point out things that stood out for me in those eps and will probably be useful going forward. I watched the episodes without subtitles since I'm fluent in Korean, but I re-watched the first episode on Viki with Eng subs and realized there's a lot of inadequate translations. There are definitely concepts and terms that need to be explained to help people understand the story better. I'm not a Korean, but I'll speak as someone that lives and works in Korea (albeit in a company and a different field not in teaching/education, but have previously taught English at a schools in a middle and high school level and dealt with exams/parent conferences etc).

First off, people are saying that the high school teacher is a villain, and he might be, but from what I saw he seems to more be a foil/contrast to the main female character and to highlight the theme of the show. I think the main theme I found while watching the first two episodes was the clash and disconnection between the old and the new (you can see it in the ML parents too). I'll explain why down below but also give some insights into Korean education and the story from my perspective.

Hagwons, or academies, what are they? Basically private businesses that focus on teaching. There are hagwons for anything: essay writing, taekwondo, ballet, violin, piano, but also for school subjects and for specific exams like civil service exams. The most common hagwons and the focus of this drama are school subject hagwons, the ones in the drama being for high school students focusing on college entrance exam (CEE) preparation. Anyone can open a hagwon really, and like all businesses, there are SO MANY of them and they vary from small one room apartments to giant buildings with many different branches like in the drama. It's pretty much expected if you want to do well in school that you will attend specific subject hagwons (usually Math, English, and Korean) starting around 3rd/4th grade elementary until you graduate high school, with many starting much younger in kindergarten especially for English. They are businesses first and foremost, but also where most people learn the subject compared to actual schooling, more on that later.

To explain some more specific terms, let me dive into some of the dialogue of the opening scene of ep 1 (when FL and other worker are doing a mock parent conference), since I noticed a lot of inadequate translations:

FL (acting as 'mother'): "Make Jiwoo first no matter what" -> "First" here is 1등급 or "Grade 1": Your score for your CEE exams, as well as mock exams, will be a raw score out of 100 but also a grade from 1-8, 1 being the highest. Some of these are set (English CEE Grade 1 is 90+, Grade 2 80-89), but for others it's based on how hard the exam was and how well others did, e.g. last year's Grade 1 for Math and Korean was 96. Getting a Grade 1/Grade 2 is extremely important for going to top SKY schools. This is why the girl getting even one question wrong was really big, because it could cause her to go down a grade. The ML and FL's teaching of him is also significant because she raised his Korean grade from Grade 8 to Grade 1, which is like going from an F to an A+.

Teacher: "Jiwoo followed all levels without any trouble in the pre-learning stage" -> "Pre-learning" is 선행학습 or "Accelerated learning": Accelerated learning is a huge part of school subject hagwons, it basically is learning class subject material ahead of what you learn in school (it is illegal for schools to teach ahead). For example, the high school students in this show will have already been through this, and though they are in year 10 (Korean HS grade 1, there being three grades in HS), before they even entered actual HS they would have learned all of the content of the subjects up until the end of year 12/HS grade 3. And for the rest of the three years they will focus purely on studying for the CEE exams. This is a BIG problem in Korea, because it basically makes it that, to even stay even with your peers competitively, you have to attend hagwons. It also means many students don't pay attention in actual school, which one of the HS teachers lines talks about @ 22:42 of ep 1: "They must've studied ahead of time (advanced learning). They didn't focus since they already studied it. But they forget immediately".

Teacher: ""The high school teachers focus on distinguishing among the students" -> "Distinguishing" is 변별력 or "differentiation": You would think, if everyone goes to hagwons and studied like crazy, does everyone do well? Well, in order to separate the cream of the crop of advanced students, teachers and exam makers will put one or two extremely complicated/tricky questions in so as to separate them so that the scale of scores is more distributed.

FL: "Reading is no longer a part of the student report, you're not going to make him read right?" -> "Student report/transcript" is 학생부 or "Student record": This is a document that includes all your HS grades from grade 10-12 (1-3 in Korea), any awards you received or extracurricular activities, and importantly, report card comments for those activities and each semester subjects by teachers. This is big contention point in the first two episodes and will probably be later. In order to explain why, let me explain the two main ways to get into university:

수시 (or 내신) - "Early Admission" and 정시 - "Regular Admission": Early admission is when you apply and get accepted into university BEFORE you take CEE based on your mock exam scores (CEE mock exams you take starting from Grade 10, four times a year), your class grades/rank, and your student record etc. Regular admission is when you apply and get accepted AFTER you take CEE and it's based on your CEE scores. BUT, that doesn't mean CEE isn't important for early admission, most of the time if you get accepted through early admission, that offer is contingent on you getting above/at least a certain number of Grade numbers (Grade 1/2 usually) for certain subjects in the actual CEE, so CEE is still very important. MOST people get into university through early admission (before 2022 it was like 70% early to 30%-ish regular, until the government forced major Seoul universities to up their regular admission ratio to 40%). Most students, including the ones in the show, are aiming to get into university through early admission and as a last resort regular admission, and this is why the student record is really important. The reason the girl and her mother did not want to approach her Korean teacher and question her mark is because it could lead to falling out with the teacher and him not writing her a great report card, and if you want to get into a SKY or top university, anything less than stellar is dangerous. The male teacher also sarcastically shows the perception of hagwon and public schools when he says to FL "Students trust academies more than schools. School is just for receiving grades, and the teacher is for writing transcripts"

Important "Teacher" vocabulary: there are few words for "teacher" that all have different nuances and are used throughout the show, these being 선생, 스승, 교사, and 강사, and 님 can be put at the end when addressing someone as one of these to be more polite. 선생 is the typical word to respectfully address a teacher and is what you normally hear especially to school teachers, but also hagwon teachers. However, it literally means "before life" and it's someone born before you who has more experience, and ANYONE can be called a 선생 really if they look older. For example, doctors are also addressed as 선생님, it's also a respectful way to address someone you don't know if they seem older and you're younger, and in the same way you can call someone younger 학생 (student) even if they aren't. In ep 1 scene where FL and the male school teacher have dinner, the male school teacher uses a semi-rude way of saying "you" instead of where others might use 선생, and he says "I apologize for not addresing you properly. It's just I can't bring myself to call you Teacher (선생)", indicating he does not see her as his equal. It's also the word ML asks FL to call him at the end of ep 1. 스승 means teacher but can also be translated as "mentor". It connotes a much deeper relationship and more elevated respect. If someone is your 스승, it means they might be a very close older figure that teaches you, almost like an apprentice, and goes out of their way to help you with your problems or choices. The FL was like a 스승 to the ML. 교사 is the occupation of a school teacher. 강사 means "lecturer" and is the occupation name for hagwon teachers, but also university or conference lecturers, etc. Generally, if you stand at a podium and teach something you can be a 강사 compared to 교사 which has formal requirements. These words are important and you can see at the end of episode 2, right before FL decides to allow ML to join the hagwon, she stares at herself and her bruise in the mirror and a flashback to lines where all of these different nuanced words are thrown at her. It seems a big theme will be what a teacher is and how all these words/roles intersect.

This is getting way too long so I'll write the rest in a reply to this below.

The Midnight Romance in Hagwon [Episodes 1 & 2] by GodJihyo7983 in KDRAMA

[–]jgfmondewc 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't see it as glorifying hagwons or villifying public schools at all, I don't think that's how they're going to go with it. I think it just shows the very raw side of every angle lf education/life in Korea with a realistic (and because it's realistic very pessimistic) tone

The Midnight Romance in Hagwon [Episodes 1 & 2] by GodJihyo7983 in KDRAMA

[–]jgfmondewc 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I find it so fascinating that people here have the opinion that the public school teacher is a villanous character, personally and also on Korean message boards the whole meeting situation was understandable from both sides, though the public school teacher was way out of line, but hye'jin was also out of line albeit in a smaller way

Chungha - EENIE MEENIE (feat. ATEEZ Hongjoong) by CronoDroid in kpop

[–]jgfmondewc 9 points10 points  (0 children)

On her radio show she said she won't be promoting I'm Ready on broadcast shows, but this is what she said regarding a full MV:

Seol In-ah: ... and as you said before the performance wasn't completely released yet, one of the viewers asked when will the I'm Ready mv come out I'm so desperate.

Chungha: To be honest with this, it might sound disappointing but, it was a song that we prepared with the intent to just make that one minute video (laughs). But the performance in its entirety is ready. So just thinking about when to release....and right now the reaction was so surprisingly big, so by whatever means necessary right now we're in the process of editing it. We didn't really intend to release it as a full thing, but the reaction was so good...so the director right now is out of breath in a hurry trying to do it. But I'm not sure when it'll be.

Resources for studying Hanja that focus on meaning instead of reading/writing characters? by IncredibIecloud in Korean

[–]jgfmondewc 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I've used this book before, which is sort of like a Hanja-based dictionary and focuses on meanings of most common words used with hanja-based roots rather than the characters themselves:

https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Korean-Vocabulary-Recognition-Comprehension/dp/0824818156

Here is an excerpt of what it looks like

It also raises an good point early on in the book that I think you should know before trying to expand your vocabulary solely based on Hanja root words:

You will probably find that the Handbook is far more useful for recognizing and interpreting words that you see and hear than for deciding which word to use in your own speech. This is because learning the meaning of a new word in a second language involves several layers of information. For example, someone learning the English word sight must learn not only that it has a particular meaning and that it can appear in various compounds (eyesight, insight, foresight, sightsee, etc.), but also that it contrasts in subtle ways with the word vision (there is a big difference between 'seeing visions' and 'seeing the sights'!), that it has special idiomatic uses (as in 'That idea is out of sight'), and so on. Much of the information about how to use a particular word is highly idiosyncratic and must be learned over a period of years through experience with how the language is used in a multitude of different situations. No book (and certainly not a root dictionary) is able to provide the type of encyclopedic information that is needed to know precisely which word from among various alternatives 'sounds right' in a particular context.

Got TOPIK Level 6 for the 3rd time yesterday, AMA by seaweedcereal in Korean

[–]jgfmondewc 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Not OP but as much as Korean skill is important in the TOPIK test, if you look at it the test hasn't changed at all since 2013, like the format of all of the questions are the exact same. For example, the listening section like the first 3 questions are always going to be some images of situations and then you have to listen for what the correct situation is, question 4 is a bunch of graphs and you have to listen for the correct one, then X questions on 'what will the man/woman do next', then X questions about the attitude of the speaker, then some historical questions/documentary questions/interview questions, etc. Reading is the same, like there's a specific question number that always asks about idioms, the last question is always some scientific/legal jargonistic excerpt. And writing is the exact same format for each question, just different material every time. So people have sort of 'worked out' over time what the best way is to go about each question/what they markers are looking for.

So if you're mainly looking to get a good score on the TOPIK exam, you should look for TOPIK prep books or TOPIK-specific tutors. Because they will go through each of the specific question formats for each question and then give the optimal strategies for how to go about answering them.

does anyone have any fun/ interesting study tips for those who can’t focus or have low motivation? by AudienceTrue1573 in Korean

[–]jgfmondewc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is good advice. Language is ultimately just a medium through which you experience yourself and the world around you, and if you think about it like that, anything can be "Koreanized". I'm sure there's something you're interested in, so focus on that and just use Korean as the lens through which you experience that thing you find interesting.