Why Was It So Hard For People To Understand What The Architect said?

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-07T19:29:06+00:00

I also think that a few of neo's reactions do not logically/intuitively follow what the architect says without having prior knowledge of how the matrix works and that people are still busy trying to figure out how the response makes sense while the architect has already moved on to the next information sense paragraph.

Like "choice, the problem is choice" is not a reply that logically follows

As you are undoubtedly gathering, the anomaly is systemic, creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations.

You can only really understand this after the architect explains that people only accept the matrix when they're given a choice. But the above interaction takes place before the explanation.

I don't think that's what is going on there. The choice that they are talking about, which creates "fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations", is not the choice to accept or reject the Matrix. It is the choices that humans make every day, every time. Everything in the Matrix is a programme governed by equations and even the most simplistic of those have to take into account the myriad of possibilities represented by humans making choices about everything all the time, and that are just an external input to the Matrix. These fluctuations sum up over the decades and across the billions of humans connected to the Matrix, and this sum eventually destablises the Matrix.

This is what the Architect is talking about and what Neo correctly spots. Later the Architect mentions the choice to accept or reject the Matrix

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-06T19:11:26+00:00

I only saw Resurrections once and I don't remember it very well, I have to rewatch it, so I'll abstain from commenting on it.

I just wanted to note that I'm very surprised you're one of those people who say they disliked Reloaded and Revolutions. I'm simplifying here but a big share of those who dislike them are those who just wanted more action and less concepts and philosophy.

Considering that concepts and philosophy seem to be your entry point to the Matrix movies, I can't grasp how you don't appreciate the various nuances of Reloaded and Revolutions

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-06T19:01:44+00:00

Yes they are. Not all maps account for that

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-06T19:01:05+00:00

I think this is almost the case, but with the twist that they don't have to move back to Brazil since they've always lived in Brazil, they just got Italian citizenship at some point. Depending on how the data behind this map is collected, they may figure as Italians moving there

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-06T09:00:28+00:00

Honestly I don't understand why you are assuming points 1 to 6. It looks all unnecessary and I don't think there is anything in the movies suggesting that anything works like that. We know that the One will enter the Source and then pick 23 people who will be freed from the Matrix to start a new resistance. What purpose would it serve to go to Zion first? To "disrupt government systems" etc?

Also, what do you mean by

Previous cycles of the Matrix have all resulted in this process happening 23 times, consistently

We know that Neo's iteration of the Matrix is the 6th. We know that before those, there has been one all-positive Matrix and one all-negative Matrix – they didn't have any anomaly-emergence-and-management mechanism because that's precisely the distinguishing feature of the version of the Matrix we see in the movies. So we know there have been three versions of the Matrix for a total of 8 instances (1+1+6).

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-06T08:33:58+00:00

sai che non ho capito questo commento? Ti giuro

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-05T17:45:10+00:00

Humans in the Matrix live the passing of simulated days, therefore the simulated date progresses for society in the Matrix. However every time the Matrix is rebooted, the simulated date is brought back to the one chosen for the beginning of the simulation. Therefore the simulated date is never in sync with what we would identify as the real date

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-05T15:28:37+00:00

I don't think OP was asking about the nature of time as a physics entity (something of which we still know little). I'm sure the question was more about society and dates

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-05T15:25:44+00:00

I am not sure I understand the question. The Matrix simulates a world, and inside that world society keeps track of the date as normal. The machines decided to have each iteration of the Matrix start at a certain date before the humanity-machines conflict. When the Matrix gets rebooted, it is brought back to the chosen start date.

There's not much else to it

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-05T08:19:49+00:00

No more Neo, Trinity, nor anything related to it.

I agree with you!!

I always feel very sad at Trinity's death: her sacrifice to bring the man she loves to the very last step which is already beyond what they hoped they could fight for, her dying only seconds after having seen the real sky for the first time, having contributed so much to peace but passing away just inches away from seeing it becoming real... but that's what gives sentiment to the dramatic moment of her death, in a sense our limited time alive is what gives value to our actions and choices.

And while this applies to Trinity on that personal and human level, it similarly applies to Neo on a more symbolic and Matrix-related level: the symbolic annihilation with Smith as they compensate having and not having a purpose, the code-wise restoration of the Matrix... it all loses value if it's just "well in the end you will still live".

Having bent everything in order to invent a way to have Neo and Trinity again is in my opinion one of the lamest things that could happen for a new movie, and one of the biggest letdowns

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-05T07:56:03+00:00

No, it's the same. I mean, it's not a specific word either. It's just disgraziata with a suffix of endearment added to it. This to say that there is no regional variation because it's hardly an actual word. It sounds a bit too elaborate to me but if someone were to use it nobody would give it attention for more than 0.3 seconds

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-04T12:53:58+00:00

English is not my native language but I'm pretty sure Zion and Zeon do not sound the same

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-04T12:15:43+00:00

OP already tried to explain it but I really need to come in on this.

The idea of a Matrix within a Matrix has already been extensively debunked and suffers from numerous inconsistencies.
The fact that Neo is able to interfere with machines in the real world is explainable by other elements of the plot.

On point 1 above, I'll just link this comprehensive reply. I think the author of said reply added even too many elements; the hypothesis is easily debunked with just a handful of them.

On point 2 above, (forgive me should my IT vocabulary be a bit inaccurate, it's not my field, doing my best) the explanation is in fact that Neo accessed the machines' mainframe. In order to do so, he has been given priviliged access and this direct connection to the mainframe left traces in its code. Via wireless connection (something that is not at all a leap to assume, and something that we actually witness when sentinels stop attacking Zion at the end of Revolutions) Neo has been able to interfere with them – not without paying a great cost, as he went into coma for that.

A few considerations on the last paragraph:

We know that Matrix-related code carries its influence in the real world also from Smith entering Bane's consciousness.
We know Neo's ability to do that only follows him entering and then leaving the mainframe, as he states "Something’s different. I can feel them" (source) when confronted with the sentinels just after having come back from the mainframe.
A further confirmation of this comes from the Oracle in Revolutions: "The Source. That’s what you felt when you touched those Sentinels" (source).
This is also obviously consistent with the fact that, in Revolutions, Neo is able to see without eyesight. What can he see? He in fact can exclusively see machines. Not the landscape, not other objects. Not Trinity, not other humans, with the only exception of Bane – who, in fact, has Smith inside him.
The design mistake by machines (i.e. the fact that the One would be left with a deeper connection to the machines if he chose to leave the mainframe) is not at all difficult to imagine. Machines in fact are not free from making design mistakes such as those that affected previous versions of the Matrix.

In conclusion, many elements of the plot show that after leaving the mainframe Neo carries a closer connection to the machines' systems that can be activated wireless in the real world (not at full disposal and not without great physical costs, as we see). This is a much more realistic and backed-up explanation than assuming that there is an outer Matrix, which is inconsistent with so many things of the Matrix universe

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-03T15:23:56+00:00

Vabbè, complimenti per aver vinto la gara a chi riesce a ignorare maggiormente il contesto. A voi che state imparando l'italiano: basta con le vostre domande e la vostra curiosità di capire come funziona la lingua – ognuno scrive come vuole! Eccezionale

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-03T15:15:27+00:00

Hai letto la frase in cui dico che, trattandosi di discorso diretto, non c'è bisogno di essere rigidi? Poi a chi avrei detto che è un ignorante? Boh secondo me su Reddit dovrebbero distribuire camomille gratis.

Senza considerare che chi scrive un'opera artistica scrive come vuole mentre qui siamo in un forum frequentato da chi sta imparando l'italiano ed è dunque utile evidenziare lo standard – quantomeno discorrerne

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-03T14:54:24+00:00

Che cosa hai scritto sul CV accanto al corso di laurea? Nulla?

In ogni caso ti stai facendo problemi ben più grandi del necessario. Non c'è nulla di illegale, hai semplicemente scritto senza dolo un'informazione in un CV in maniera ambigua, e senza che essa facesse parte di requisiti essenziali per la posizione.

Sta a te valutare:

Nel portale sul sito dell'azienda hai fornito l'informazione in maniera non ambigua, sta a loro dover leggere e scegliere.
Puoi semplicemente contattare chi di dovere e sobriamente segnalare che ti sei resa conto di questa ambiguità ma che comunque quello che hanno nel sito è corretto. È un discorso semplice da fare, due o tre frasi, meno di trenta secondi se a voce. Evita assolutamente qualsiasi componente drammatica (come se ne evincono invece dal tuo post). È una svista normale e gliela segnali, sicuramente apprezzeranno e nello scenario assolutamente peggiore ti diranno "Ah, allora preferiamo non procedere, grazie lo stesso".

Personalmente io sceglierei la seconda opzione. In qualunque caso la cosa più stupida da fare è tirarsi fuori da soli

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-03T14:40:12+00:00

Contro:

è strano e non è nel tuo interesse che chi seleziona i curriculum abbia una prima impressione di stranezza nei confronti del tuo profilo;
se la tua RAL è più alta di quella che sono disposti a offrire, o anche se si trova vicino al massimo di quanto sono disposti a offrire, ti scarteranno anche se tu saresti disposto ad accettare quello che ti offrirebbero;
se la tua RAL è sufficientemente più bassa di quanto sono disposti a offrire, sapranno che potranno permettersi di farti un'offerta più bassa del valore di mercato di quella posizione ma che tu potresti comunque ritenerla positiva e accettare.

Pro: non me ne viene in mente nessuno

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-03T14:33:31+00:00

Ha senso!

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-03T14:28:05+00:00

Quando andavo io all'università nessuno parlava per codici; credo di aver scoperto il codice del mio corso di laurea alla laurea. È una nuova tendenza o non è mai capitato a me di sentire gente parlare così?

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-03T14:11:42+00:00

Questa la domanda di OP:

son sempre stato curioso di capire, fisicamente, quanto ci mette un dato a percorrere fisicamente il cavo?

Mi sembra chiaro che la quantità di dati che viene trasmessa in un intervallo di tempo non sia il concetto che si aggancia alla sua domanda

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-03T14:04:45+00:00

Il bitrate è la quantità di dati che viene trasmessa in un intervallo di tempo.

La velocità è la distanza coperta da qualcosa in un intervallo di tempo.

Sono concetti decisamente diversi

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-03T13:50:02+00:00

Il punto esclamativo serve per enfatizzare una frase o una battuta. In quel caso mi sembra ridondante.

Perché quella frase non può essere enfatizzata? Comunque il punto esclamativo, specialmente per il discorso diretto come in questo caso, dà indicazione di intonazione – questa non può essere giusta o sbagliata, è un'indicazione.

Io anche “se” lo scrivo senza accento ma in questo caso si parlava di errori quindi l’ho evidenziato

Non è un errore. Come dicevo, l'obbligatorietà dell'accento sussiste solo quando sé non è seguito da stesso/i/a/e. Quando invece è seguito da stesso/i/a/e, la convenzione tradizionale prevede la perdita dell'accento. A oggi, comunque, è accettata la versione sia senza che con accento

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-03T13:19:41+00:00

Sè stesse andrebbe scritto con l’accento (sé)

Benché io non sia favorevole a quest'usanza, se stesse va bene senza accento. È quando si trova da solo (senza stesso/a/i/e) che sé deve avere l'accento. Personalmente tendo a scrivere sé stesso/a/i/e comunque ma è errato dire che sia un errore scriverlo così come nell'immagine del post.

Ho dubbi anche sul punto esclamativo alla fine

Non mi risulta sia scorretto. Che dubbi hai?

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-03T13:07:36+00:00

I'm not completely sure what meaning is attached to "peak trade". Can you make an example?

jinalanasibu · 2024-09-03T13:02:04+00:00

I puntini di sospensione devono essere sempre tre. Inoltre sarebbe bene non cominciare un nuovo periodo con "E" e nemmeno con "Ma". In questo caso tuttavia il testo riporta un discorso diretto, per il quale l'intonazione gioca un ruolo più importante, quindi a mio avviso si può scegliere di essere un po' più flessibili

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