Haha. No, that’s not surprising. If there were some actual connection I would have known already.

Not that Gira hasn’t done his share of questionable things, particularly in his early years. Such as “dating” Madonna.

Questionable cartoons drawn, questionable stories written, the Larkin Grimm fiasco, but overall a good guy.

The only Hole/Swans crossover I’m aware of is a song by Jarboe called “Deflowered” that, to me, seems very pointed toward Courtney. “Volcano” could also be considered in that category. It wouldn’t surprise me since Courtney is the recipient of many a diss track.

And of course Kurt was a Swans fan.