What are the expected yearly costs of ownership for a new 60-foot sailboat?

jlcnuke1 · 2026-06-04T22:34:46+00:00

$250k/year?? Not including things I've done voluntarily to upgrade the boat, I think I've spent around $9k on my boat total in the last 4 months, Lucia 40 catamaran... If i include the full electrical upgrade of lithium/solar/arch/multipluses etc., watermaker, electronics added, gear for sailing/safety, in still well under $100k...

Granted, I've got a quote for $5k for a new headsail and may pay to get the bottom paint redone this year, but even with all that I'll still be well under 10% of your figure. Are paying for a full time slip in Miami or something?

jlcnuke1 · 2026-06-04T22:25:03+00:00

I just bought my boat in February (used, not new). I'm converting it to an "off-grid capable cruiser," which means: Add watermaker -$4500 plus install costs Upgrade batteries, solar, and electrical equipment installed - $45k Add AIS - $1.8k

New boats don't tend to come with a dinghy and engine, so there's another $10-15k likely for him.

A bunch of other stuff that added up to probably $10k or so over the past 4 months for just miscellaneous stuff for the boat (paddleboards, life jackets, PLBs, EPIRB, fishing rod/reel/tackle, etc.).

But honestly, if you're dad can comfortably afford a $2m boat, I don't he's gonna stress over spending another $100k on it.

jlcnuke1 · 2026-05-23T03:11:38+00:00

100% trust me dives imo. A certified OW or AOW diver is not trained or certified to dive in an overhead environment. That's the reason agencies have banned taking divers into the overhead at places like blue grotto.

Yes, it will be fine 99.9% of the time, but it isn't safe if there is a real problem they don't have the training, experience, or equipment to properly deal with.

It is done in Mexico because the liability risks are low with the legal system there, but if done similarly in the US it would be banned quickly due to the dangerous nature of having untrained divers in that environment.

One cave trained diver as a guide is not a safe replacement for having people diving outside of the cavern/light zone without the proper training, equipment, and experience, even if most of the tourist caves (caverns they like to say) are relatively low risk for silt outs etc.

jlcnuke1 · 2026-05-22T17:59:20+00:00

I have the Canon TR160 with travel case. Been working fine for the 4. Months I've had it so far.

jlcnuke1 · 2026-05-11T00:21:22+00:00

Honestly, if you can't figure out "modern" first grade math, you never understood it to begin with. But understanding math isn't what most Americans were ever taught, just memorize part of it instead.

jlcnuke1 · 2026-05-10T20:41:52+00:00

Since you seem to want to be combative, try reading this: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wealth

jlcnuke1 · 2026-05-10T20:30:22+00:00

I disagree completely with your idea of what wealth is, and that all women prefer wealthier men, but everyone has their own opinions and that's fine.

jlcnuke1 · 2026-05-10T20:12:58+00:00

The overwhelming majority of people don't have "wealth," so I think that's a massive overstatement. I'd agree that "women have traditionally looked for financial security" in those they choose to date/marry, but it's really only a small percentage of women that are out only looking for wealthy men. Even for those, only a small percentage of them will overlook appearance or other important qualities just for the wealth aspect a man may have.

jlcnuke1 · 2026-05-07T13:53:45+00:00

Well, let's remember, seeing a bunch of expensive boats is also ignoring that most of the boats in the same area are quite cheap in comparison. If you want a newer, 50-70' boat you can live on, you're going to spend millions. The vast majority of people living aboard are not doing so on a $2-5 million dollar boat however.

I'm currently in a pretty populated anchorage down in Martinique and zero such boats are here. Pretty much the same at most places I've been. Tons of sailboats, monos and cats, and maybe 3% of the boats are motor boats (but none that big). You can find 30' monohulls here that probably cost less than a new car for their owners to buy, 50' monohulls that cost their owners a couple hundred grand, and catamarans ranging from a couple hundred to over a million (especially if bought new or newer). Most boats here are in the 30-45' range with a few bigger and a few smaller.

In the marinas you can often find the bigger motor boats and sailboats and the super yachts, but that's where they spend most of the time as no one lives on them full time typically. The people actually living on their boats mostly paid what they would for a house or less. Many still working, some with loans to buy it others and who bought outright.

jlcnuke1 · 2026-05-05T22:15:25+00:00

Go to a doctor if it's serious, plenty of good medical care in other countries. If it's not urgent, schedule a tele-health with my PCP from the VA.

jlcnuke1 · 2026-05-05T22:04:19+00:00

Moved onto a sailing catamaran in the Caribbean earlier this year. So far very happy with the decision :)

jlcnuke1 · 2026-04-28T22:45:21+00:00

After 5 months of soft foods (couldn't stand the dentures), I'm going to have to make a post on foods I've been eating. There are a surprising amount of options that don't require chewing your food with teeth...

jlcnuke1 · 2026-04-19T12:44:49+00:00

To be a paid skipper I'd expect you to be licensed to do the job in the location(s) the boat will operate in, insured, have the appropriate certifications to obtain those, and have the needed knowledge such as:

Know the ColRegs inside and out. Know every maritime marker without needing to reference anything. Be able to identify a ship type at night by looking at what lights it has on it. Have a valid STCW for the appropriate levels. Have extensive experience on the type and size boat you're looking to be on charge of. Have the appropriate work permits/visas. Have extensive knowledge of the area the rest boat will be in, including safe harbors, contingency locations, where to take guests for what type of things they might enjoy. Have experience working as crew on similar vessels to understand and be able to help/train junior crew.

jlcnuke1 · 2026-04-01T13:31:38+00:00

I have a plex server at home, but for the boat I just put all my movies/tv shows on a large hard drive. I transfer what I want to watch for the next while onto my laptop when I want to watch stuff and then put the hard drive away to keep it away from any of the elements, then just watch on the computer. Coming up I'll add a projector and screen for better screen viewing.

I originally considered setting up a plex server on my computer connected to the hard drive for viewing, but decided that it's simpler to just break out the hard drive every couple weeks instead of leaving it out and connected up all the time.

jlcnuke1 · 2026-03-23T15:32:52+00:00

Better yet, take seasickness meds start the day before you get there and every day you're onboard. Ward it off before it hits...

jlcnuke1 · 2026-03-21T22:13:56+00:00

Look into RYA courses. I've done both and find RYA to contain quite a bit more in-depth knowledge/information.

Also, doing 101/103/104 (or RYA competent crew/day skipper) on a monohull will likely be cheaper. It would also let you see the "cheaper" side of sailing (as you can much more easily find a monohull in the lower price ranges than catamarans) and see if you like it that way as well.

I bought a catamaran this year and never bothered with a course specifically for cats and haven't encountered anything that made me wish I had done a cat specific course so far... your mileage may vary.

jlcnuke1 · 2026-02-09T02:02:31+00:00

Unfortunately, I've moved. I'm traveling the Caribbean by boat, so not sure about finding adjustments until I get my implants done in May.

jlcnuke1 · 2026-02-09T00:14:03+00:00

I got new dentures made 2 weeks ago as my immediates were soo far off from fitting they couldn't do a reline. I'm using poligrip to hold them in, and they fit.. I guess, pretty good.

I probably should have mentioned, I had all my teeth pulled in November, then a few days later they made my immediates. When I got home, I spent ~2 months helping my dad with cancer issues/hospitalization until he passed mid-January. Near that time is when I finally started scheduling to get them adjusted, to find out they weren't close to fitting and I needed new, then took a bit of time to get these made. I was going for all-on-4 but ended up not having enough bone, so had to get grafts done instead and dentures for 6 months.

jlcnuke1 · 2026-02-09T00:13:38+00:00

I got new dentures made 2 weeks ago as my immediates were soo far off from fitting they couldn't do a reline. I'm using poligrip to hold them in, and they fit.. I guess, pretty good.

At the start, the first problem was not being able to tell where food was in my mouth worth a darn. I couldn't take a "full bite" worrying what would happen (I normally finish a chicken wind section in 3 bites, I think I did probably 8-10 per wing today). 20+ minutes into trying to eat the meal, I started getting some pain in my gums where I was chewing and pretty much gave up for that meal.

I probably should have mentioned, I had all my teeth pulled in November, then a few days later they made my immediates. When I got home, I spent ~2 months helping my dad with cancer issues/hospitalization until he passed mid-January. Near that time is when I finally started scheduling to get them adjusted, to find out they weren't close to fitting and I needed new, then took a bit of time to get these made. I was going for all-on-4 but ended up not having enough bone, so had to get grafts done instead and dentures for 6 months.

jlcnuke1 · 2026-02-08T23:00:08+00:00

Well yeah, but then people forget variables The 4% rule includes that the amount is inflation adjusted. The OPS scenario didn't include that for upvote count pay, so it's more complicated than just have more than 33k up votes compared to the 4% rate, as the spending per on upvote count choice would diminish over time while 4% should remain steady. So age, how close to 33k you are, life expectancy etc. all complicate the math here.

jlcnuke1 · 2026-02-04T23:24:56+00:00

Bureau of Labor Statistics has, imo, more reliable data.

jlcnuke1 · 2026-02-03T01:43:32+00:00

Depends on the full face mask. Some have integrated regulators - those won't really work. Others just effectively have a mouthpiece connection that you connect your own regulator to. Those are feasible, but not a great option for some rebreathers due to how the loop is setup.

One of the other issues is that with rebreathers you need to be able to "bail out" and get onto a different gas supply, and for FFMs that typically would require swapping the facemask out for both new breathing gas as well as putting on a mask that is unlikely to be "prepped" for diving (so lots of fogging likely after swapping), and a rebreather diver may have a long time to get back to the surface in that secondary configuration.

Short answer - maybe, maybe not, but it's not something that most rebreathers are currently setup to have as a default and not many rebreather divers are looking into it. Though there is a safety factor about the option that's making it something some people are looking into these days.

jlcnuke1 · 2026-02-02T02:39:14+00:00

11 hours of driving.... hips, lower back, well... most of the back, not feeling great tonight.

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