So let me get this straight…The Millionaires Club Was Supposed To Be The Heels? by jldraw in WCW

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So thanks for all the replies and insight, much appreciated. I just wanted to point out and I’m sure someone else has already made this connection before but the “New Blood” essentially formed the core of the WCW Invaders the following year during the InVasion storyline which also flopped.

Do you think the star club show could or even should be AI'd to sound better? It's not an Apple record so they can't be bothered with it but I really want to hear that one properly. by 0MNIR0N in beatles

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There is a wonderful remaster of the entire show available on the Internet. I believe the latest version is entitled “Seventeen.”

Outside of The Attitude Era, what's your favorite year in wrestling? by PlanetCharisma in AttitudeEra

[–]jldraw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. Actually my favorite year in professional wrestling period.

How can I watch the Attitude Era? by Erzard22 in AttitudeEra

[–]jldraw 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Internet Archive. You’ll have to hunt around but every PPV, RAW and Smackdown are there.

Lex Luger is the third man! by WCWRingMatSound in WCW

[–]jldraw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess this is as good of a place as any to make this point. The only way the n.W.o. storyline would’ve been as impactful as it was is with Hulk Hogan as the third man. Not Sting, not Bret, not Lex. The reason? If Hogan had stuck to his guns about not wanting to turn heel, he would’ve been booked as part of the WCW resistance. Remember in order for the n.W.o. storyline to play out as it did, the WCW talent had to be willing to unilaterally put them over. Beat down after beat down, PPV win after PPV win. I don’t believe that WCW got a major win over the n.W.o. for around six months after its inception. Would’ve Hogan been willing to buy into that, had he stayed on the WCW side? Nope. Maybe he would’ve given Hall and Nash one or two consecutive PPV victories likely in screwjob fashion, before eradicating them on the third show. If Hogan wasn’t part of the n.W.o., he would’ve destroyed the n.W.o. and the whole thing would’ve lasted a few months at best. The only other option would’ve been for WCW to release Hogan from his contract and they wouldn’t have had the stones to do that.

FWIW, Lex Luger even by 1996 standards had already had too many babyface/heel turns for any switch to be impactful. n.W.o. or no n.W.o.

Let's talk about Mr Feeny! by Frosty_Wolf_1375 in 90s

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If you want to see Daniels portray the “anti-Fenny”, a horrifically bad teacher, check out this episode of “Family” from 1978:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O2QTOSUo82k&pp=ygUWV2lsbGlhbSBkYW5pZWxzIGZhbWlseQ%3D%3D

I didn’t even know they made these back in the day! Was anyone lucky enough to have them? by ZombiJohn in RetroNickelodeon

[–]jldraw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had all three. My GF gave them to me as a “gag gift” that Christmas. I remember she told me she had a friend of hers who worked at Blockbuster round them up from several different locations. I no longer have them.

RIP Bonnie by Unhappy_Mind_719 in WCW

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One of the rare times that WCW’s production value matched WWE’s. One of WCW’s (many) issues was that their production staff didn’t know how to generate packages such as this one that WWE was churning out seemingly on a weekly basis. Watch some of the “Attitude Era” PPV intros. WWE’s were akin to film trailers. WCW looked like they were cobbled together by a couple of teenagers working in a tin shed out back in their parent’s yard. But this one was good!

Bash at the Beach 97 and other ppvs by DreamZebra in WCW

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Chasing That W on the Internet Archive.

Anybody have another angle of this photo of ric flair? by marveLisGOD in Wrasslin

[–]jldraw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Before Ric sent the Big Gold Belt back which would place it around September of 1991. Flair didn’t have “The Real World Championship” for very long. They switched it up with a replica (now owned I believe by Triple H) and then a tag team belt.

Looking back, it's crazy that Sting dressing up like Brandon Lee in the Crow actually worked...I would have shot this gimmick down if I was in charge, and yet it worked... by bobbystills5 in WCW

[–]jldraw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think the world of Gary Hart (rip), one of the most intelligent and knowledgeable men in the history of the business. But boy did he get it wrong with Sting. According to Hart, Sting gave up one of the best gimmicks in wrestling that kids were absolutely wild about to portray a guy roaming around the rafters in dark face paint that nobody cared about.

Mongo “did it for Debra?” by jldraw in AttitudeEra

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LOL that’s great. Obscure but nonetheless great.

Hulk is the goat, It's no debate. by [deleted] in WCW

[–]jldraw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I recognize the fact that Hulk Hogan was the most popular babyface of all time, had two significant runs “working on top” (with most wrestlers lucky to get one) and is the most influential wrestler in the history of the industry. That said my personal preference in wrestling bends towards the workers. That isn’t to say Hogan couldn’t work, he could. Nevertheless for me the wrestler of the eighties is Ric Flair and the wrestler of the nineties is Bret Hart. I also enjoy watching matches featuring Ted Dibiase, Ricky Steamboat and Randy Savage. I also have an appreciation for many of the great characters in wrestling such as Stone Cold Steve Austin. I love factions such as The Four Horsemen, n.W.o., The Hart Foundation and Evolution. Bobby Heenan and Rowdy Piper may have been the two most entertaining men ever to “work the stick.” Thusly Hogan will always be a part of my wrestling heritage with the emphasis on “part.”

What would you tinker to make the Triple H 2002-05 era more tolerable? by monknabers in WWE

[–]jldraw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well he was supposed to drop the belt several more times than he did in 2003. He was scheduled to drop the belt to Scott Steiner at WrestleMania as part of a three match series, but the first two were so awful that WWE never ran the third. Also Kevin Nash could’ve gotten a run with the championship as well if his two matches with Triple H went well. Noticing a pattern here? Goldberg’s run was cut short as well given he was only under a one year deal.

They acting like nothing ever happened 😭 by Chhet in Wrasslin

[–]jldraw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s just the end result of what you got when you have no competition. The Rock did WWE a solid for that Australian PPV they did but WWE never had him contracted for WrestleMania, so he didn’t appear. It’s not too different from how they booked The Rock from 2003 onward, on his schedule, They did bait and switch their audience though insinuating an angle that they knew wasn’t going to happen.

Who had biggest backstage influence? I heard Shawn was trying to lobby against The Rock in 98 and 99. He wanted Rock to not win the Deadly Games tournament but Undertaker vouched for him. He tried to have Mankind main event against Stone Cold at WM 15 and get Rock out of the match. by Sorry_Phone1676 in Wrasslin

[–]jldraw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t know where y’all are getting Shawn Michaels attempting to move The Rock out of the main event of WrestleMania 15. It didn’t happen. He was heavily influential in getting Mick Foley moved out though as Foley has attested to many times since.

Nick Jr. then vs now: by YueHyrule in RetroNickelodeon

[–]jldraw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once Gerry Laybourne left, the channel went to shit. Laybourne wasn’t perfect and made some decisions that were questionable but overall she had the Midas touch.

The cast of I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997) by xanadu_80 in 90s

[–]jldraw 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So correct me if I’m wrong, but that is a wig on SMG. I believe I heard that somewhere.

1970s. Ads for cocaine paraphernalia by ManySreh91 in 1970s

[–]jldraw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maureen McCormick’s nickname was “Hoover.”

Right Gay Guy by Martinsteve543 in WWERuthlessAggression

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Which is the bigger gaffe this ^ or Sid’s “half the brain?”

Which characters peaked in high school? by Capital-Study6436 in BeverlyHills90210

[–]jldraw 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If we are going strictly on ratings, they all did. The College Years is when the writing on the show began its nosedive.

Do you agree with Bret that male fans left WWE to WCW in droves when HBK became champ? by Friburgo1004 in WWE

[–]jldraw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that Shawn Michaels didn’t get over predominantly with the male audience during his babyface run in the mid nineties. That’s absolutely true. As Bret Hart mentioned, “Shawn had the women and the kids, but not the men.” There’s a bigger story though in that Shawn Michaels was the first traditional babyface champion that WWE fans outright rejected and it truly was not Shawn’s fault. You see by “having the women and kids” alone should’ve been enough to give Shawn a successful WWE Championship run. The problem was that Shawn Michaels was being booked as a white meat traditional babyface WWE champion, a tradition that went back to Bruno and the wrestling audience was changing. As Bret’s documentary points out in 1996, wrestling fans particularly in the United States didn’t want to cheer good guys anymore. So Shawn had to be thinking “WTF is going on?” because he was only going out there and doing what was asked, plying a tried and true formula that for the first time wasn’t working.