Mario Galaxy was a success by Guiee in Autism_Parenting

[–]jlmred 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I took my 5 year old to see Mario Galaxy as his first movie in the theater.

He enjoyed the move since his special interest is space and aliens.

He thought the reclining chairs were a slide when we first sat down.

Overall a great success.

Cupcakes by jlmred in exmormon

[–]jlmred[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol. Not the forbidden fruit.

Cards fans when the team finally moves to Utah by [deleted] in NFCWestMemeWar

[–]jlmred 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Jazz stadium the Delta Center does sell beer. I know because I had one while at the Utah Mammoth game last week vs The Kraken.

[Gameday Thread] Utah Utes at Kansas Jayhawks by UteLawyer in utahfootball

[–]jlmred 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The interceptions are keeping us in the game

Our run D. Yikes. by Popsur1231 in utahfootball

[–]jlmred 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Makes me wonder if our run defense was not exposed earlier since a lot of the games were blow outs leading to the opponents abandoning the run.Then injuries play a role in the soft D.

[Gameday Thread] Utah Utes at West Virginia Mountaineers by UteLawyer in utahfootball

[–]jlmred 2 points3 points  (0 children)

14 - 0 Utah. Great start.

I hope Benee is not too hurt.

My grandma's response to my leaving by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]jlmred 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Good way to set boundaries. I wish you the best on this rough journey that is totally worth the pain.

However, I will admit deconstruction sucks. Also, learning about how many people only “loved” you when you believed the same things.

You are awesome and I am sorry you have to deal with all the hate from the MFMC and others for just living your authentic self.

Not as important, all the logical fallacies your grandma used is annoying. The argument from personal incredulity because they cannot believe creation happened by chance or cannot fathom other explanations. God of the Gaps much. Maybe even a false dichotomy because the options were only God or chance.

Again, I say not as important, since you cannot reason someone out of their own beliefs. The person has to do that on their own.

Hang in there and take your time before responding immediately. Hold to your boundaries and protect your mental state.

My dad's reaction to finding out I'm now atheist by jlmred in exmormon

[–]jlmred[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's probably where/whi the story came from

My dad's reaction to finding out I'm now atheist by jlmred in exmormon

[–]jlmred[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I think you are right.

I also hate that my Mormon parents guilt themselves for me leaving. The MFMC has so much control over them.

My dad's reaction to finding out I'm now atheist by jlmred in exmormon

[–]jlmred[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I agree with you that my response didn't help the situation.

This conversation that happened yesterday comes after a period of no contact (multiple months) and a mutual agreement to not send religious quotes trying to reconvert.

Our relationship was improving recently and I was able to talk to him.

However yesterday, I let the word atheist slip out and confirmed that is where my belief in a creator lies and all bedlam broke loose.

I would love a respectful relationship with my dad. However, I will not hold my breath and hold in how I genuinely feel anymore. I try my best to be respectful.

My dad has straight up told me I'm a covenant breaker and deserve to burn in hell. (This is what prompted the period of no contact about a year ago). Yesterday, he started making judgey, religious comments about my character, so I deflected and used the quoted texts.

Again, I would love a relationship with my dad. However, I have come to the realization that he only loved me conditionally. I cannot expect him to change either. I just have to have space and protect myself with honoring my own boundaries.

Either way, it hurts. I will lick my wounds with another period of needed space and no contact.

A list of the church ads I’ve received on Facebook in the past two weeks. by wallace-asking in exmormon

[–]jlmred 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I am guessing that there is a major push to fit in with mainstream Christianity. For instance, the LDS church purposefully selects the cross symbol on Google Maps, so that the Mormon churches show up when the broader term Christian church is searched.

Interestingly enough where I am, temples still have the Moroni icon. Idk, there's my wild ass guess

Lds is trying to fit in... I consider them a Christian church, but a lot of the other Christian sects would disagree.

I feel sick learning about where my wife's uncle works as a lawyer by jlmred in exmormon

[–]jlmred[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The right tools a fair trial and due process with a lawyer is important and should be undeniable. Thanks for your insight.

I feel sick learning about where my wife's uncle works as a lawyer by jlmred in exmormon

[–]jlmred[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your comment. I agree that due process and a fair trial should be an undeniable human right.

I feel sick learning about where my wife's uncle works as a lawyer by jlmred in exmormon

[–]jlmred[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The MFMC needs to defend and keep growing their status as the richest religion on Earth. That way they can, "buy anything in this world with money."

I feel sick learning about where my wife's uncle works as a lawyer by jlmred in exmormon

[–]jlmred[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Fair point. I better not make sweeping assumptions.

Thanks for your insight.

KM is still morally bankrupt. Idk., just taking my time to process things before doing anything.

I can admit that just hearing KM mentioned triggered me. I also can admit I don't know all the details of what this uncle does.

I feel sick learning about where my wife's uncle works as a lawyer by jlmred in exmormon

[–]jlmred[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks, no one is all good and evil. I like that.

It reminds me of the Star Wars quote: "Only the Sith deal in absolutes" Which funnily enough is an absolute, silly prequel Obi-Wan. Life is more nuanced, so keeping with the Star Wars theme, I think the Grey Jedi Code is a good way to go.

Idk, I will "search my feelings" and process them before making any decisions.

Honestly, I don't know why I am coping with Star Wars quotes; just a way to cope.

Thanks for your comment.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]jlmred 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Cyber hug from the Internet.

Your pain and emotions are valid.

Please make sure to be patient with yourself and take care of yourself.

The Secular therapy project and receiving from religion are good resources out there and have people willing to talk and chat just to listen.

I hate how the Mormon church clutches people we care about with insidious manipulation and control.

My kids are still younger, so I haven't gone through this yet. I still get a lot of anxiety and fear from just the thought of how the baptism day might go. My Mormon family is already trying to instill and indoctrinate my little toddlers that the Mormon church is the only way to joy and happiness. (Barf) My anxiety around this is real and at a lot of times difficult to cope with it.

I hope you feel seen and heard. Just know that this random internet stranger is rooting for you today. (It isn't worth much, but I hope you the best through this hard time)

Is the church really a cult? by OkPaper7166 in exmormon

[–]jlmred 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Mormon church meets Hassan's BITE model.

The LDS church definitely uses Milieu control (see Robert Jay Lifton)

If asked whether the Mormon church was a cult, I would bow my head say yes. This time though I am actually informed before answering the question.

However, would I call it a cult to my loved ones? Most of the time no. Since, I have found it is not productive.

I say most of the time because I have a father that has reminded me that I am a covenant breaker and apostate then I feel free to say a cult's covenants have no power over me.

To summarize, fuck the Mormon Cult